Pharma CEO assasinated!!

[Clockwerk50]

Maybe you shouldn't have contextualise your pathetic story with the events discussed in this thread.


Why bring your pathetic story up at all? Your frustration at a dealership has no relation to someone's health insurance denying a claim for life-saving medical procedures.


Bringing up your car dealership claim problems in this thread is actually insensitive. Wow, you suffered the loss a 1,000 dollars? How angry and frustrated you must've been. That should be comparable to someone going bankrupt because they have to pay for necessary life saving surgery out of their own pocket.

I could bring up that since 2015 I have to pay 440euro a month for my glaucoma medication, because (even though my medication prescribed by the chief optometrist & head of the ophthalmology department of my hospital) the health insurance denies my claim hiding behind their 'policies'.
If I would bring that up, it would make more sense than your pathetic car dealership story. I didn't bring it up (except here to show your foolishness) because in my health insurance case the claim denial is a mere nuisance, not a financial strain that threatens to bankrupt me and destroy my livelihood. Even though I feel the denial of my claim is unjustified, I'm not frustrated and/or angry at paying almost 50,000 euro for eye-saving medication. And I certainly would compare my plight with that of the UHC patients getting their claims maliciously denied.


Meanwhile, here you are b!tching about a car dealership warranty claim denial that cost you a mere 1,000 dollar. Yes, that is like telling a chemo patient you had the flu, so you know what they're going through.

Again, I’m not sure how you got so off track, but let me clarify: My point wasn’t to compare my frustration over a $1,000 warranty claim to the struggles of someone needing life-saving treatment. What I did say is that anger can get misdirected, and in both my example and yours, it's often placed on people who have little control over the broader issues at play.

I’m not whining or complaining, and that wasn’t the point of my example. It’s clear you’ve misunderstood, and instead of addressing the real issue, you’re relying on petty arguments, straw man tactics, and self-righteous positioning.

You made the connection between my example and chemotherapy patients, and it came off as deeply insensitive. Maybe if you want to be a better leader in this forum, it would help to admit when you're wrong instead of writing fictional posts about your imaginary lovers to get validation from other members here. Maybe it’s time to get off your high horse.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You made the connection between my example and chemotherapy patients, and it came off as deeply insensitive. Maybe if you want to be a better leader in this forum, it would help to admit when you're wrong instead of writing fictional posts about your imaginary lovers to get validation from other members here. Maybe it’s time to get off your high horse.

High hobby horses have haughty halos, however.

(Then again, getting high is the only way to get above water)

 

[eli77]

Society has been addressing systemic issues with murder since the beginning of time. Currently we have Hamas vs. Jerusalem, Ukraine(USA) vs Russia. Its human nature, regardless of how you or anyone feels about it.

There are many people fed up with the corrupt healthcare system in the United States. You should see the comments on social media, and the comments that get posted on news stories. Its the corporate hospitals, insurance companies, and doctors screwing over the American People. This event has people talking about how broken our healthcare system is, the volume has been turned up significantly. Thats something positive. Will anything more become? That has yet to be seen. But this act has been an impetus.

If it took the loss of one life to create change, then so be it. The son of a b!tch that got killed was no saint and neither is the industry he worked for. He is exactly what is wrong with America. The fuhkers keep taking.

You completely ignore the fact that masses of people that have been screwed, denied coverage, and died because of a broken healthcare system. Ohhh, these folks are just supposed to sit down and talk??? they are way beyond that. That was tried and they got nowhere. Thats how they feel....why can't you understand that. Have you not ever been beat down by the system and taken advantage of? You live under a damn rock?

Preach to them

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

From what I've seen, he had a botched back surgery. There is an image floating around of the screws in his back. Apparently, he was in so much pain that it ruined his life.

Which tracks, if you compare the old picture of him jacked!, to to his current physique.

He was an active guy: lifted weights, hiked, rock climbed. And after the botched back surgery, he can't do anything.

And I'm with @AmsterdamAssassin he must have wanted to be caught. He's intelligent enough to ditch the murder weapon and change clothes...

Or maybe he is just a patsy. Who knows...

 

[Clockwerk50]

High hobby horses have haughty halos, however.

(Then again, getting high is the only way to get above water)

You can hear the keystrokes from the other side of the pond as he gets mad, trying to one-up everyone with his lies lmao

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You can hear the keystrokes from the other side of the pond as he gets mad, trying to one-up everyone with his lies lmao

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With the Maine Coon digging its claws in, hanging on for dear life.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Maybe if you want to be a better leader in this forum

There's no maybe. I don't want to be a "leader in this forum".

If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you, but I'm merely here to observe and provoke, so you lot give me interesting fodder for my research into toxic masculinity.

And you're doing a fine job already, so consider this encouragement to keep going. It's entertaining.

Oh, same goes for Billy. Absolutely hilarious.

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

There's no maybe. I don't want to be a "leader in this forum".

If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you, but I'm merely here to observe and provoke, so you lot give me interesting fodder for my research into toxic masculinity.

And you're doing a fine job already, so consider this encouragement to keep going. It's entertaining.

Oh, same goes for Billy. Absolutely hilarious.

I went on a date last night. First time in a while. And yeah, it was with the sexting ass b1tch, but she got a good job recently, so why not

We're sitting there, and I'm being reminded of why I don't like this woman...

Then I overheard the date next to us. Well, mostly I heard the dude being a try-hard. My old lady said they were gen z and I'll have to take her word for it, as I didn't look much.

I remember overhearing the dude doing most of the talking and trying to impress the young lady with the job he wanted to get. He talked too much. I didn't hear her speak much.

See where he fvcked up? He was going out of his way to impress her. He cared too much about the outcome. He didn't hold the frame.

If he would have played it more cool, with outcome independence, she wouldn't have been such a frigid b1tch.

Never go out of your way to impress a woman. Learn how to casually make her impress you. And it has to be subtle. You can't lay it on thick.

Ask the woman questions. Make her justify herself and her decisions. "Why would you major in that?" Etc. and keep her feet to the fire. Make her justify herself to you!

Always remember that you're a boss. Because I told you so.

Act like you have a set of nuts.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Ask the woman questions. Make her justify herself and her decisions. "Why would you major in that?" Etc. and keep her feet to the fire. Make her justify herself to you!

I let the woman do most of the talking, but I try to avoid questions because it feels too much like interviewing/interrogating, so I often make statements/remarks and get an answer by the way she responds to provocation.

You can see the same thing happening in this thread. You just pick a side "I think the gunman is a hero and the CEO scum of the earth" or "The gunman is a dangerous radicalised maniac shooting a father just doing his job" and you can see how everybody responds. And how the thread sidetracks. Interesting to observe.

 

[Clockwerk50]

There's no maybe. I don't want to be a "leader in this forum".

If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you, but I'm merely here to observe and provoke, so you lot give me interesting fodder for my research into toxic masculinity.

And you're doing a fine job already, so consider this encouragement to keep going. It's entertaining.

Oh, same goes for Billy. Absolutely hilarious.

You can lead without being a moderator, but according to you, you're just here to make the forum a worse place for everyone. Got it.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You can lead without being a moderator, but according to you, you're just here to make the forum a worse place for everyone. Got it.

Another misinterpretation, but I'm not going to dumb down for you anymore.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Another misinterpretation, but I'm not going to dumb down for you anymore.

• If I cared about this forum, I would've applied for moderator status. Or advertised myself as PUA like you - this implies that if you truly cared about the forum, you would have applied for moderator status or promoted yourself as a PUA, but since you haven't done either, it shows you have no real interest in improving or engaging meaningfully with the community.
• but I'm merely here to observe and provoke - you admitted to being here only to observe and provoke, implying that your actions are disruptive and contribute negatively to the forum, turning it into a place for you to gather "fodder" for their own research into toxic masculinity.

Get off that high horse, man. There's no "dumbing down" here; you literally confessed to these things. So selfish. Maybe take the L and move on.

 

[Vanderdonck]

You pay taxes, but did you decide how and where your taxes are spend? No, you didn't. Do you put money/wealth over human lives? I don't think you did. Even the fact that you think about the blood on your hands shows that you're a moral person. Yes, you voted, as is your democratic duty, but you're not a legislator. You didn't wilfully intend for your (mandatory) taxes to fund a war.

Brian Thompson was instrumental in making health insurance profitable by wilfully and intentionally using illegal and highly immoral ways to deny/delay claims that caused millions of people to suffer needlessly and even caused patients to die (or die sooner).


All these products are subject to free choice. Even addictive substances like tobacco. People choose to poison their bodies with tobacco and processed foods.
And you say you 'worked', so past tense. Why don't you work for them anymore? Is it because you grew a conscience?

Let me put it this way:

Industrial waste pollutes America’s drinking water

This report is part of a project on drinking water contamination in the United States produced by the Carnegie-Knight News21 program. PHOENIX – In Ringwood, New Jersey, Ford Motor Co. dumped more than 35,000 tons of toxic paint sludge onto lands occupied for centuries by the Turtle Clan of the...

publicintegrity.org

Industries don't keep to the laws around environmental protection and wilfully put toxic industrial waste in the drinking water.
Who decides to do that? The government? The workers at the factory? Or the CEO that decides that dumping the waste in the river is cheaper than using the safe but expensive waste disposal?
We could argue that the CEO is only 'doing his job' by increasing the profits for the board of directors and the shareholders, but 'with great power comes great responsibility'. Knowingly causing suffering and death is immoral.

Now people's loved ones get sick and some even die because of this toxic drinking water. The illegal dumping of toxic waste is discovered and the concerned citizens warn the government. The EPA is put to the task. From the article linked above:

Let's be positive and assume the EPA actually do their job and the company gets charged for breaking environmental laws and endangering the public. However, with all their money, the company can afford lawyers who drag out the court case and meanwhile the company keeps ignoring the law and keep dumping their toxic waste. The smiling CEO fills the company's coffers and all the other greedy muppets clap him on the back for doing such a great job. Here, have another bonus.

When that happens, who is surprised when someone decides to shoot that slimy CEO? I think that anyone who puts greed and avarice over human lives deserves to be removed from society. I would prefer incarceration, but if the law cannot get to them?

Does killing the perpetrators solve the problem? Probably not, but at least the whole world suddenly understands that the situation is more dire than a few people getting diarrhoea from drinking tap water.


Only a lunatic would shoot the CEO's secretary for denying and delaying health insurance claims.
Only a lunatic would shoot the CEO's secretary for toxic waste dumping.
Only a lunatic would shoot an ordinary tax payer for funding a war.

Then again, America has a lot of trigger-happy lunatics itching to be vigilantes, so maybe you'd want to invest in body armour.

Appreciate your points here. My take on taxes and voting are more radical, I admit. I know what the govt does so any participation is complicity. My only defense is that I was extorted. Henry Thoreau went to jail though.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Appreciate your points here. My take on taxes and voting are more radical, I admit. I know what the govt does so any participation is complicity. My only defense is that I was extorted. Henry Thoreau went to jail though.

You pay mandatory taxes, you don't get to decide what they're used for. You can protest military spending or corporate buy-outs or... but you know it's useless.

The fact that you feel complicit indicates a moral compass.
Psychopaths don't feel complicit in the suffering they cause.
You, on the other hand, have on conscience.
Cherish it.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Get off that high horse, man. There's no "dumbing down" here; you literally confessed to these things. So selfish. Maybe take the L and move on.

You're just upset because I provoked you into lashing out like a toddler.

It's okay, my opinion of you is a lot lower than your opinion of me.

 

[Clockwerk50]

You're just upset because I provoked you into lashing out like a toddler.

It's okay, my opinion of you is a lot lower than your opinion of me.

So you are a mind reader now, there is nothing you cannot do, is it?

Once again, your responses shifted from discussing the actual issue to personal attacks and mockery. Calling my story “pathetic” and using straw man arguments only distracts from the serious topic of healthcare injustice. I’ve stated multiple times that I didn’t make the comparison you claim I did, yet you continue to misrepresent my point. It’s clear from your angry tone—calling me a "toddler" and "dildo"—that you’re escalating the situation rather than engaging in meaningful dialogue or addressing the core issue. You’ve also openly admitted that you're here to provoke and stir up conflict for your own entertainment. A friendly advice, you should look into this validation seeking behaviour.

It is ok if you do not like me, so hopefully we do not talk again. However, if we do, please remind me that your maturity level is inversely proportional to your age.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi All,
This post has really lifted the scales from my eyes....We have a tax payer funded "Free Medical System"down here,I shall never complain about it again...You do have to be patient,but eventually they "sort you out"....My Sister lives in an Outback Town,she lived with Cataracts for a couple of years,when there was a critical mass of similar patients in the area,a mobile unit from Adelaide came up and did an assembly line service,flew dozens of Folk to A border town fixed them all up...She complains about the Taxi Fare to the Airstrip LOL.

 

[zekko]

Nobody should get paid $10M per year.

I think people should be able to make however much they can make. If you can make $10 million a year, more power to you.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I think people should be able to make however much they can make. If you can make $10 million a year, more power to you.

I think people should realise that with the power of wealth comes responsibility. A responsible person wouldn't put money over human life and put profits before patients. Behave like a Bond villain and someone starts to think you're evil incarnate and feels justified in blowing your head off.

 

[zekko]

I think people should realise that with the power of wealth comes responsibility. A responsible person wouldn't put money over human life and put profits before patients. Behave like a Bond villain and someone starts to think you're evil incarnate and feels justified in blowing your head off.

That sounds like three separate issues though, even if they might be related in this case. There's how much money corporate CEOs make, there's the healthcare issue, and then there's the issue of thinking you have the right to end another person's life.