All arguments are a waste of time. The majority of people (men and women) cannot have a measured discussion about controversial topics. Most people want their views confirmed or to be triggered into hostility. If you can find someone who can hold two competing thoughts, you've found a unicorn.
I love your implication that the best you can hope for is for someone to have cognitive dissonance.
This is a pretty worthwhile video to watch for most men who enjoy arguing with people in general.
I'll check it out, thanks.
Related comment I saw in another video that I loved:
"They don't understand the substance of any sentences you utter.
They don't understand many basic words and they intrepret words in a random out of context cultural/slang version.
That happens 12 times in one sentence so that in their mind you said the opposite of what you actually said.
They CANT take words literally and they CANT give words the appropriate meaning for the context of the sentence.
It's impossible to get them to understand... They DO already agree with all your points and principles they just don't know they do, they're too busy taking every 2nd word out of context and then making random comments about them out of context.
They aren't talking to you... To them, they're talking to a stereotype robot of "old fuddy-duddy" who they either misinterpret or feel smug about insulting.
Why do they so openly mock giggle, infer serious insults and even directly insult and feel so ok? To a perfect stranger? Cos to them, you're not explaining your point .. To them, you're just an 'out of touch' man being mean."
It will be less common for most men (especially men living in bigger cities) to be dealing with women who are truly conservative/right leaning in their ideologies. The women with conservative ideologies tend to get into longer term relationships earlier. They are also more commonly found at more strict religious universities and some other more traditional and/or conservative interest groups. They would also tend to live in less populated areas. Rural areas and metropolitan areas under 500,000 in population are where these women are more likely to be found.
I don't think you were implying this, but, to clarify, I don't like conservatives either. I just hate ideology across the board, political or otherwise. I like people who are apolitical or centrist, and capable of critical thinking (ie, open mindedness + healthy skepticism). Such women are extremely rare. I think most of the apolitical / non idealogues are men, but I could be wrong. I would even reckon most "centrists" are men. It seems to me like women tend to always be on the extreme sides, and the only ones on the right are country types, which I do not like either. Ugh.
I think it's a good idea to discuss birth control practices prior to having sex. That isn't realistic in some situations. Same night sex from a nightlife venue approach is not likely to result in a discussion of birth control practices. Additionally, first date sex (either from an app arranged first date or a real life arranged first date) isn't likely to result in a birth control discussion either.
Prior? Sure, if you can do it without killing sexual tension. I tend to after we fvck for the first time. Luckily, I am pro-abortion (not pro choice, which is different) so I can at least get on the same page with them for that. And I don't mind BC, though I do have qualms with it for the same reason as abortion (removes accountability), though I still think it's a net positive. Once I establish that I address the problem of mens sexual/parental rights, and in my experience most if not all women do actually agree and acknowledge men's complete lack of saying power in that arena. One line I love to say "If a women wants a kid, and the man doesn't, too bad, he has to pay child support. If a man wants a kid, and the women doesn't, too bad, she's getting an abortion." Let alone the general fact that courts overwhelmingly favor women for child custody...though I rarely if ever go that far with it.
A good way to avoid dealing with social issues around working is to date women who don't define themselves by their occupation.
Yup. In fact, "educated" (especially post-grad) "career women" are literally my biggest red flag now. If a women is a workaholic and/or defines herself by her job (unless it's operating her own business, which I actually love and respect a lot
) I don't want anything to do with her. I literally put that on my Hinge profile among other qualifiers, and women either
love it and qualify themselves, or
hate it, but in my current city it's mostly the latter group.