The Diver
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Men's conversations, interaction, and behavior style with women fall into one or more of four categories, and it's also about what most women want/don't want to hear and expect/not expect to hear from men.
1) Men who are saying what women Want to hear but mostly Not Expected to hear.
These men are very confident and self-assured. They express themselves, their needs, desires, and wants from women in a clear, direct, confident, and unapologetic manner.
This man will approach a woman with something like, "You are cute and SEXY; I am ATTRACTED to you and want to spend time with you". Even if women initially will criticize men like that, covertly, it'll arouse them. ( This style of approach, in my opinion, is very effective if you're at least a good-looking handsome man. I can't see it working with sub 6-7 men) .
Most Women covertly want that type of conversational interaction because it cuts the BS and skips the mind game. But mostly, they will appreciate this kind of approach if it's a man they are attracted to.
Women, mostly, Do Not expect this kind of conversation from men because the vast majority of men don't have the balls to deliver this kind of conversation style.
2) Men who are saying what women want and expect to hear.
This man, although confident, is a men who want to leave a good impression on women. This is the man who is overly concerned with getting women to like him and, therefore, will compliment women excessively and will be careful not to offend or challenge women. These men are timid, careful, afraid of criticism, too cautious, and indirect in their expression of their needs, wants, and desires.
They eventually tell women what they want and desire, but only after they are sure they are liked and won't criticized, but sometimes it's too slow and therefore can be too late, which will land them in the friend zone.
This is the type of conversational most women want to hear ( it's cartful, not intimidating, not challenging, and the compliments are a boost to their ego , but mostly because it'll leave them with the option to manipulate men), and that's what most women expect to hear because this is the conversational style of the vast majority of men. ( The simps)
3) this is what most women Don't want but Expect to hear.
This is the men who are s**tles feared to approach and express their needs and desires to women and, therefore, use their money, possessions, and assets to bait and attract women.
This is the man who'll say '" oh, I just want to be friends," or " I really don't want anything from you " .
These men are insecure and timid and will try to attract women with their money, expensive presents, expensive trips, expensive restaurants, expensive concerts, pay their bill, their car repairs, and as such, all that with the hope that maybe one day it'll progress to more than friendship.(
Women don't want to hear it because this type of conversation is phony, insincere, timid, and cliche, but they will exploit this man to their advantage with no intention of giving anything substantial in return. ( Sex, genuine affection, and love , Unless it's officially aggred as a " Sugar Daddy" transection).
They expect to hear it because women expect to be baited with money, gifts, and dine& wine ( this is the type that mostly attracts the gold diggers).
4) what women Don't want and Don't expect to hear.
This is the men who have been type 2 and 3, who many times ended up in a friend zone, harshly criticised, rejected, used, and humiliated.( Mostly sub 5 men).
Now, these men are bitter, resentful, angry, hate women, and just want to converse with them to gain revenge, hurt and humiliate them.
Now that he doesn't care anymore for women's opinions about him and doesn't care to be liked, he lost all fear of approaching women ( type 2 and 3), and now he's brave enough to express his needs and desires, but now he's is rude, aggressive, angry, and physically threatening to women.
Women don't expect to hear it because it's just too extreme and it's out of the chart behavior. ( This is the type of man who in extreme cases ending doing a mass shooting rampage)
So, these are the 4 major types of male conversations and interactions with women, and I believe every man has been on at least one or more of these types , sometimes a mix of two types,and sometimes skips from one type to the other and back.
1) Men who are saying what women Want to hear but mostly Not Expected to hear.
These men are very confident and self-assured. They express themselves, their needs, desires, and wants from women in a clear, direct, confident, and unapologetic manner.
This man will approach a woman with something like, "You are cute and SEXY; I am ATTRACTED to you and want to spend time with you". Even if women initially will criticize men like that, covertly, it'll arouse them. ( This style of approach, in my opinion, is very effective if you're at least a good-looking handsome man. I can't see it working with sub 6-7 men) .
Most Women covertly want that type of conversational interaction because it cuts the BS and skips the mind game. But mostly, they will appreciate this kind of approach if it's a man they are attracted to.
Women, mostly, Do Not expect this kind of conversation from men because the vast majority of men don't have the balls to deliver this kind of conversation style.
2) Men who are saying what women want and expect to hear.
This man, although confident, is a men who want to leave a good impression on women. This is the man who is overly concerned with getting women to like him and, therefore, will compliment women excessively and will be careful not to offend or challenge women. These men are timid, careful, afraid of criticism, too cautious, and indirect in their expression of their needs, wants, and desires.
They eventually tell women what they want and desire, but only after they are sure they are liked and won't criticized, but sometimes it's too slow and therefore can be too late, which will land them in the friend zone.
This is the type of conversational most women want to hear ( it's cartful, not intimidating, not challenging, and the compliments are a boost to their ego , but mostly because it'll leave them with the option to manipulate men), and that's what most women expect to hear because this is the conversational style of the vast majority of men. ( The simps)
3) this is what most women Don't want but Expect to hear.
This is the men who are s**tles feared to approach and express their needs and desires to women and, therefore, use their money, possessions, and assets to bait and attract women.
This is the man who'll say '" oh, I just want to be friends," or " I really don't want anything from you " .
These men are insecure and timid and will try to attract women with their money, expensive presents, expensive trips, expensive restaurants, expensive concerts, pay their bill, their car repairs, and as such, all that with the hope that maybe one day it'll progress to more than friendship.(
Women don't want to hear it because this type of conversation is phony, insincere, timid, and cliche, but they will exploit this man to their advantage with no intention of giving anything substantial in return. ( Sex, genuine affection, and love , Unless it's officially aggred as a " Sugar Daddy" transection).
They expect to hear it because women expect to be baited with money, gifts, and dine& wine ( this is the type that mostly attracts the gold diggers).
4) what women Don't want and Don't expect to hear.
This is the men who have been type 2 and 3, who many times ended up in a friend zone, harshly criticised, rejected, used, and humiliated.( Mostly sub 5 men).
Now, these men are bitter, resentful, angry, hate women, and just want to converse with them to gain revenge, hurt and humiliate them.
Now that he doesn't care anymore for women's opinions about him and doesn't care to be liked, he lost all fear of approaching women ( type 2 and 3), and now he's brave enough to express his needs and desires, but now he's is rude, aggressive, angry, and physically threatening to women.
Women don't expect to hear it because it's just too extreme and it's out of the chart behavior. ( This is the type of man who in extreme cases ending doing a mass shooting rampage)
So, these are the 4 major types of male conversations and interactions with women, and I believe every man has been on at least one or more of these types , sometimes a mix of two types,and sometimes skips from one type to the other and back.
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