I wonder how women feel

[jamesfromhouston]

It's a known fact that most women (even mediocre ones) have an endless supply of men chasing them and giving them attention.

I've seen this to be true through the years, even women that I know who are 6s have almost an army of simps after them and hitting them up. Some of these men have higher SMV than them as well.

I often wonder, how do women feel in terms of their experience of the dating?

I wonder because it must be so drastically different to us men and our experience of the dating.

Most of us men have to actively pursue and secure dates, partners, lays and comparatively speaking, we don't have an endless supply of women bombarding us with attention and jumping through hoops for us by default. It's an active exercise for us compared to their passive sit-back experience.

I can anticipate one outcome of it is that they become entitled but do women feel fatigue like us?

For us men, we feel fatigue when the effort we have placed into active dating and the pursuit does not lead to dates or plates that are commensurate. We feel we have expended all this effort on a fruitless chase. Of course we can meet others but it's hard for us to even create a supply of prospects comparative to the ease of women.

What about women? Do they feel the same?

Do they have a better experience than us by comparison? Do they have a better time?

 

[BPH]

I'll use my most recent ex as an example to answer this question.

To the question, of do women have a better dating experience than us, the answer is yes.

The longer answer is yes, but only for a little while.

My ex is very attractive and very wealthy. She's tried to demonstrate a note feature on Tinder where if they don't swipe right on you you can leave them a message that might change their mind. She could not demonstrate this feature because every guy she swiped on was a match.

She has had multiple guys in her DMs sending her money, offering to fly her out, there was even a guy who sent her a full-week all-expenses-paid vacation stay in Cancun for Valentine's Day - while we were dating. Obviously, she declined, but the lengths these guys are willing to go to are insane...and they're good-looking guys too.

However, there's a reason she's my ex, and that is because she has had to take on the masculine role for most of her life, and is very difficult as a result; she's combative, loud, commanding, etc. She's gotten better since we broke up, largely due to therapy, but there is a very real chance she ends up alone at the end of the story. Either that, or she'll settle for a guy who can put up with her.

She's got all the options in the world...now...but once her looks start to fade, that's it. She probably has about 5 more good years if she takes care of herself.

Men, in general, age better and accumulate wealth later in life. They generally become MORE valuable as they age, while women are the opposite, as their youthful beauty fades, and by extension, their value. I had a conversation with my mom last night because her friend is dating an unattractive man nearly 70 years old, and she can't understand why.

I explained that her friend is a 50-something-year-old divorcee and her best years are behind her, so she has to settle for who's available and willing rather than who she wants.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Generally women have a very very easy ride in the dating market

I mean an attractive woman in even a moderately sized city is probably able to be entertained 7 nights a week by different men

She has the luxury of then splitting them off into different categories

FWB
ONS
Boyfriend activites
Freindzone
Entertainment providers
Accommodation providers

Etc etc

Its a fun time to be a young pretty woman

The fun stops when they actually want to settle but because they've had such massive exposure to so many different types of men offering different things they have no idea what they actually want and aren't really satisfied with what they get

 

[Bingo-Player]

Men on the hole need to start wising up though just pouring attention over women who really don't deserve it is causing so many problems

 

[Vanderdonck]

Walk into a gay bar. You'll get an idea.

 

[TheGambino]

Lol this thread is funny

 

[Crown]

For those who say women have it easy in dating : Men drown in sand, while women drown in swamp.

From a male perspective, it's easy to get jealous to someone getting so much attention, but once you got all that attention you realize it's mainly bad quality attention. Males want to have sexual intercourses mainly, while women want to be understood and have someone on the same emotional level as them - and of course that someone has to be attractive, otherwise he is the equivalent of a lamp : there to put light on them and nothing else.

Also, for those you say that only women feel the decline in dating interests towards them through the age, you are delusional. Males age very poorly aswell, sometimes even worse.

 

[9-3enthusiast]

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I wonder when (or if) he's gonna notice it...
Could've been such a great pun - If the rest was re-worded...

 

[TheGambino]

Women are human beings, they suffer from the paradox of choice, with many men after them its overwhelming. While they do enjoy the attention, when they see so many feminine men, puzzy pleasers and beggars, they get disgusted and only use those guys as tampons.

Imagine you having so many options that you can't make your mind, its not good. That's why you have to become your best self, never allow disrespect, always willing to walk away.

I get disgusted by pvssy boys too

 

[Chow Mein]

Many of my female friends say thirst is the biggest turnoff for them and deters them from dating. They rather be single than deal with a dude that can’t control their natural urges.

 

[Gamisch]

There will always be balance in life. Always.

If you are a man who keeps grinding to improve himself, you'll constantly/occasionally cross paths with women that fancy you and view YOU as an 8+. No it's not as easy as having a p00sy. But when a woman does chase you she'll go all in. And that's where you wanna be as a man. Your lifestyle, presence, charm ect should do the work for you. Heck, it's all a man should be about.

Women are busy being chased while men should be busy building their personal empire so they get to chase the best women available to them, or even better: make them chase you!

It's pointless trying to experience the female way of dating as a man. Men who do this oftentimes are dependent on women to take care of them. Basically reversing roles and thus giving up and wasting valuable time and energy that should be going into building that empire

 

[jhonny9546]

..but because they've had such massive exposure to so many different types of men offering different things they have no idea what they actually want and aren't really satisfied with what they get

this is the 21st century woman illness.
It's just basically a drug addict trying to go without.

 

[RangerMIke]

Men and women really are not that much different. A man, spoiled for choice, will behave just like women do. It's really not that hard to imagine.

All a man can do is always strive for self-improvement and be the best version of himself that he can, try to make dates, then see what happens. Then, and this is the most important mindset a man has to have.... it is better to be alone than chained to a woman that really doesn't love you for who and what you are. So a man has to learn how to know if a woman really loves him and set aside his personal feelings because she doesn't really give flying fvck about his feelings, only how HE makes HER feel.

A man that loses emotional self-control never ends well and will always get taken advantage of or end up in court.

 

[eli77]

goes to show you how many people on here have some serious mommy issues .My mother used her looks to get a sugar daddy all I have to say is be wise and careful gentlemen!!

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Don’t think women are satisfied just because they can easily get sex. Most women want a relationship. And that can be difficult for them to get. Many settle for their ‘not-first-choice’. .

 

[Slowhandluke]

Men and women really are not that much different. A man, spoiled for choice, will behave just like women do.

no... gay men are basically spoiled by choice. since there is no restrain, the average gay man will have a lot more partners than the average woman.

an average straight man will try to have as many partners as possible given a choice, while the average woman will not. women and men are different.

 

[The Duke]

A few thoughts:

-I once got hit on by 4 gay guys in one night. The first one was strange, the second one was funny, the third one was annoying, and by the 4th guy I was ready to smash his face in. After that the light came on for me. I understood how women must feel getting hit on by guys they have no interest in. I've had a few fat/ugly/mediocre girls hit on me as well and I'm annoyed every time. It almost deflates my ego a bit.

-Women also have a hard time making decisions when given options. Ever ask your girlfriend where she wants to go eat? Present them with too much choice and they struggle every time. They aren't great at evaluating their options. Most lack the analytical capacity to do so. Its no surprise most great analytical minds are male.

-A man will be open to many different women, where a woman will not be open to many different men.

-Every guy out there is trying to fuhk her, she has to figure out which ones are worthy and are willing to be relationship potential. Most men fail.

-When you have multiple pursuers, you look for the negatives so you can quickly dismiss them. Thats why first impressions are so critical with women. They don't give second chances during the dating process. A guy that doesn't know what he is doing will get blown out quickly and not get a 2nd date.

-Women feel dating fatigue when they get tired of meeting men that are clueless idiots, lie about who they are, and/or act feminine and don't lead.

-A woman will want to connect with your mind and heart. Sure physical attraction is great, but its the connection that ignites feelings in her. Most guys don't know how to connect.

My statements above are from experiences I've had and many women that have said the same thing over the years. This stuff also doesn't really apply for women just wanting some random dihk. Its more for relationship minded females.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I don’t think I can add much, as I believe The Duke was extremely thorough in his response. In my opinion, there are two stages in a woman's prime and post-prime where they enjoy attention differently.

The first stage is when they initially experience attention and compete with other women for it. This competition can involve factors like physical appearance, fashion, surgeries, makeup, hair, social media followers, travel, and dining at upscale restaurants. They want to feel famous and have their fans.

The second stage occurs when they try to settle down and focus their efforts on gaining the attention of a specific high-value man (HVM). During this phase, they become less interested in the attention of men they don’t value and they are actually disgusted by them.

For example, my neighbor, who was a law clerk, used to wake up at 4:00 a.m. to attract the attention of a sought-after lawyer, and she eventually married him. I’ve mentioned her before, and this reminds me of a video I’ve linked below.

To emphasize this point, in the article "You Are Not Her Top Choice," it’s noted that when her phone vibrates or rings, she gets excited, hoping it’s from her top choice. If she sees it’s from someone lower on her list, disappointment sets in, and she begins to associate that person with disappointment.

 

[Solomon]

Most women do not think in-depth about the dating plight of men from a man's perspective, I mean why would they? women assume that all men they go after are players or don't wanna commit etc. However these are men that women fancy, the guy they don't fancy isn't even on the radar.

Most women don't realize how hard it is for men because most men are not in the conversation. When women talk about men, they are talking about the men they value and desire. The guy who is not hot, the guy who gives them the "ICK" those guys are not in the running and the only time those guys come up is as a punchline for a joke.

I do remember a conversation I had with a chick I used to hook up with back in 2019, we fell out and went out again In 2022 for one date and she got fat to the horror of my eyes. You have to understand this chick use to have a really nice body and let herself go (before she had a tight runner's body and was a gym rat). The girl basically realized that the "pretty privilege" she enjoyed was gone and was lamenting about the fact about how easy she used to have it in life espeically with men. The guys who used to ask "How High?" when she said "Jump". Those guys weren't checking for her at all. So I do think women start to realize that as they age, get fatter or whenever life hits them back down to reality, especially if they aren't able to garner the attraction from men that they used to garner attraction from (former fit girl use to date multi-millionaires, fly on jets, you know the Koko Beaute lifestyle) Some women get bitter. This is why you see a fat chick who may be delusional it's because she used to be hot and was able to get away with stuff like that but now that she is fat it doesn't work anymore. Especially if you're talking to a former hot chick who got fat or ugly. Life humbles them. I noticed two things happen 1. Those chicks get in shape again with the quickness or 2. They just accept their new reality and become comfortable

 

[saige]

I have this to add. It can be really tiring at times. Most of the times, the sort of approaches and attention are solely based on physical appearance. It can be in an environment where there's zero interest in getting approached, or she could be taken, all sorts of factors should be considered.

Considering I've been steady with my amazing boyfriend for the past half year, I view these approaches as much more bothersome now. I have recently asked him to accompany me to the gym (he doesn't workout that much, but just to keep company) and in public to not be bothered. My friends who are taken have similar opinions. When I'm with him in public I'll never be approached by anyone which is nice, I just wish it could happen when I walked alone too.

I just wanted to add this perspective. I understand the frustration that women might have it easier because of all the opportunities/approaches but you have to take in account how some women feel about it.

If 30-40% of the female population is taken, 10% aren't looking for a relationship, 1-5% are lesbian, 10% are too old or ugly to be considered by any dude, that leaves a lower % who are:
1) Single and on the lookout
2) Somewhat attractive and in your age range
2) Attracted to men and embodies your guys definition of "feminine"

Then of course that leaves a smaller% of women you'd have to consider in how they feel about being approached.