Koko Beaute Has Officially Hit 'The Wall'. She's an Example for All Women About What Can Happen When Riding the Penis Carousel

[SW15]

Kornelija Slunjski (Koko Beaute on social media) has made a name for herself on multiple social media platforms. She is a content creator who has focuses on self-care and relationship topics. According to her YouTube bio, she is a supporter of all things female empowerment and has developed a sizable following with women.

She grew up in Croatia and has lived in New York City and Miami. She became known in the red pill and Manosphere communities for her insistence on only accepting first dates that are dinner dates in restaurants (see below -- first 30 seconds of this video). Koko Beaute is the best known example of a woman from a more traditional Eastern European nation that comes to the United States and then adopts the worst traits of White, American women. @Jesse Pinkman and I have discussed her on multiple threads previously.

This eventually led to her meeting Rollo Tomassi and having a debate with Rollo Tomassi on topics related to dating and intersexual dynamics. The Rollo-Koko Beaute debate happened on the SOSCAST podcast in April 2022.

In August 2024, the YouTube channel Man Talk put together a history of Koko Beaute. Koko has been flown out by a man with a private jet and has encouraged women to ride the penis carousel, similar to how she has ridden the penis carousel. According to Google, she is now 33 years old and has put out a video where she has explored the option of egg freezing. She has only had to explore the option of egg freezing at 33 because she has spent the last 12-15 years in New York and Miami seeking a bougie lifestyle and riding the penis carousel. She has had sex with many men and has not received an engagement ring.

Koko Beaute is not an isolated case. It's possible for many women to follow the path of Koko Beaute and end up in their mid to late 30s single, never married, childless and having a high notch count. In these cases, a woman's fallback would be her educational and career achievements.

More and more women are becoming like Koko Beaute.

It's a great idea for women not to follow the example of Koko Beaute. She rode the penis carousel, sought commitment from a high value man and didn't receive it. She might still get a beta male, simp type to marry her but that's a better case scenario for her now.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Some of them ‘get lucky’ and hit the pregnancy shot!

I’ve dated a relentless b!tch for a while that fit all the requirements for koko’s scenario, but since she had a child, and ‘got what she wanted’ she just went full berserk on the carrousel.

She’s out there on the wild, leaving a trail of bodies behind her. Not sure what will happen to her for the long run.

Not my problem, but it would be educational to watch.

PS: She is on child’s support and Baby daddy is an orbiter!

 

[SW15]

I’ve dated a relentless b!tch for a while that fit all the requirements for koko’s scenario, but since she had a child, and ‘got what she wanted’ she just went full berserk on the carrousel.

There are women who go full berserk on the penis carousel and eventually find a beta male that marries them. These might be mediocre or even subpar marriages. Nevertheless, they get married and even have children.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Some of them ‘get lucky’ and hit the pregnancy shot!

I’ve dated a relentless b!tch for a while that fit all the requirements for koko’s scenario, but since she had a child, and ‘got what she wanted’ she just went full berserk on the carrousel.

She’s out there on the wild, leaving a trail of bodies behind her. Not sure what will happen to her for the long run.

Not my problem, but it would be educational to watch.

PS: She is on child’s support and Baby daddy is an orbiter!

Child support only last 18 years.. Sounds like a long time.. but when you are a single middle age woman and no men are interested in you (you have become "invisible")... Those 18 years will go fast, and their is no going back especially when you have been alpha widowed.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I’m in my 50’s and normally date woman in their 40’s or so. One of the gals I spend time with that I would rate a 7.5/8 has cute little body, big round booter, great legs etc. I think she’s quite pretty. She never had kids, she frankly is kinda nuts. She goes through phases where she laments it a great deal. To the point of tears, “I have no one”. I actually said to her once “it’s because you had them all already”. To be fair it was in a bit of an argument where she justified her mood by saying that. I was feeling particularly assholish that day.

Another woman I stopped seeing last year also quite pretty by me estimation and I’d wager many here would consider her attractive, Hyoooge natty D’s and a tight little gymnast body. Never married, no kids, same story. Now mind you both these chicks definitely have some mileage, they’re both good looking and childless. And they’re both nuts.

 

[itouchyou]

In regards to the OP: is 33 years old really the age at which women have low egg counts? Or is this particular woman an isolated case? I heard the statistic that women lose 90% of their eggs by 30, but don't usually hear much more than that.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I'm not trying to dispute your research, but it’s well-known that when female YouTubers experience a drop in viewership, they often respond by crying on camera, seeking sympathy, creating drama, and then continuing with their content. This is illustrated in the Spanish meme below, which describes two strategies for gaining attention on social media. It loosely translates to “how to ask for attention on social media; strategy 1/ strategy 2”.

Also, the notion of the "wall" for women might be shifting to around 37 years old due to advancements in fertility treatments, career-focused men in their 30s, and an increasing dating pool. It often only takes a wealthy man and the illusion of dating “famous YouTuber [insert name here]” for a proposal to happen. I doubt she lacks quality people in her contacts who are interested in marrying her. To add to this point, we have pornstars like Eva Lovia who literally sucked **** in camera and now they are married with people with money and have kids. They even use the husband’s resources to create podcasts.

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However, I do agree. Regular women, the ones not in the spotlight, time is not as kind to them.

 

[SW15]

In regards to the OP: is 33 years old really the age at which women have low egg counts? Or is this particular woman an isolated case? I heard the statistic that women lose 90% of their eggs by 30, but don't usually hear much more than that.

In any case, her fertility has declined now compared to 5-7 years ago. That's going to impact how she pursues dating and relationships during the next 5 years.

I'm not trying to dispute your research, but it’s well-known that when female YouTubers experience a drop in viewership, they often respond by crying on camera, seeking sympathy, creating drama, and then continuing with their content.

It's possible Koko is doing this to increase views. I would like to think that she's seriously considering how to handle her future fertility between now and 40. Is she going to be able to have a child between now and 39? Given her dating history, this could be an issue for her.

the notion of the "wall" for women might be shifting to around 37 years old due to advancements in fertility treatments, career-focused men in their 30s, and an increasing dating pool. It often only takes a wealthy man and the illusion of dating “famous YouTuber [insert name here]” for a proposal to happen. I doubt she lacks quality people in her contacts who are interested in marrying her. To add to this point, we have pornstars like Eva Lovia who literally sucked **** in camera and now they are married with people with money and have kids. They even use the husband’s resources to create podcasts.

However, I do agree. Regular women, the ones not in the spotlight, time is not as kind to them.

In 2014, Roosh wrote an article about The Wall being softer than most men think it is. It is still applicable in 2024, if not more applicable.

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think

I've heard multiple stories from trusted sources about women well past 40 being heavily pursued in the mating marketplace.

The Manosphere likes to claim that women are past their prime around 30-35, but that isn't reality. Women 30 or 35+ have pussies that are still in demand.

I am confident that Koko will have many mating options in the short to medium term. She could find a beta and/or simp to marry her and have 1-2 kids with her in the next 8 years. However, is she willing to settle for a lesser man at 33-35 than she could have gotten at 25-28 had she been more relationship oriented? She's going to settle for some sort of beta now and she'll have to deal with her own level of happiness with that beta. The best she can do with an alpha/sigma type now is shorter term sexual option, and she might even do that while in an LTR with a beta. If she stays unmarried, she can continue to have shorter term sex with alphas/sigmas, but that is not likely to bring her extended happiness.

 

[pipeman84]

To add to this point, we have pornstars like Eva Lovia who literally sucked **** in camera and now they are married with people with money and have kids. They even use the husband’s resources to create podcasts.

I looked into this, they've been together since 2010 (she has a FB post in 2020 saying happy 10th anniversary) and married since 2015. So they've been together throughout her porn career, considering she started in 2011.

 

[SW15]

when you are a single middle age woman and no men are interested in you (you have become "invisible")... Those 18 years will go fast, and their is no going back especially when you have been alpha widowed.

This doesn't really happen to middle aged women anymore. Middle aged women can become "invisible" if they only rely upon real life methods of meeting men, which is why this commonly happened to middle aged in the late 20th Century and the 2000s decade. In the last 15 years or so, as middle aged women started using dating websites and dating apps more, they also started to experience abundance. It's so common now to be a 35-54 year old woman now (especially 40-54) who barely draws interest in real life and then goes online and has a swipe queue of hundreds of men. This even happens to 55+ senior women now too.

Most of these options for 35+ women are beta males who represent a "settling" option to them, but they'll still get the abundance and won't as readily notice that they are invisible.

Koko Beaute will experience parts of what you describe, but she will always have suitors because she has a strong internet presence.

 

[SW15]

I’m in my 50’s and normally date woman in their 40’s or so. One of the gals I spend time with that I would rate a 7.5/8 has cute little body, big round booter, great legs etc. I think she’s quite pretty. She never had kids, she frankly is kinda nuts. She goes through phases where she laments it a great deal. To the point of tears, “I have no one”. I actually said to her once “it’s because you had them all already”. To be fair it was in a bit of an argument where she justified her mood by saying that. I was feeling particularly assholish that day.

Another woman I stopped seeing last year also quite pretty by me estimation and I’d wager many here would consider her attractive, Hyoooge natty D’s and a tight little gymnast body. Never married, no kids, same story. Now mind you both these chicks definitely have some mileage, they’re both good looking and childless. And they’re both nuts.

Many 35+ men have experience in dating older childless women, which is what Koko Beaute is fast becoming. Many older childless women have significant mental health issues and baggage, despite lacking a big form of baggage that single moms would have.

For older, childless men seeking extended, committed relationships, there's often a challenging choice. Do you choose to focus time on older childless women who might have mental health issues or date a single mom with fewer mental health issues but the baggage of child from a relationship, which makes the man a cuckold raising another man's child?

 

[Manure Spherian]

Kornelija Slunjski (Koko Beaute on social media) has made a name for herself on multiple social media platforms. She is a content creator who has focuses on self-care and relationship topics. According to her YouTube bio, she is a supporter of all things female empowerment and has developed a sizable following with women.

She grew up in Croatia and has lived in New York City and Miami. She became known in the red pill and Manosphere communities for her insistence on only accepting first dates that are dinner dates in restaurants (see below -- first 30 seconds of this video). Koko Beaute is the best known example of a woman from a more traditional Eastern European nation that comes to the United States and then adopts the worst traits of White, American women. @Jesse Pinkman and I have discussed her on multiple threads previously.

This eventually led to her meeting Rollo Tomassi and having a debate with Rollo Tomassi on topics related to dating and intersexual dynamics. The Rollo-Koko Beaute debate happened on the SOSCAST podcast in April 2022.

In August 2024, the YouTube channel Man Talk put together a history of Koko Beaute. Koko has been flown out by a man with a private jet and has encouraged women to ride the penis carousel, similar to how she has ridden the penis carousel. According to Google, she is now 33 years old and has put out a video where she has explored the option of egg freezing. She has only had to explore the option of egg freezing at 33 because she has spent the last 12-15 years in New York and Miami seeking a bougie lifestyle and riding the penis carousel. She has had sex with many men and has not received an engagement ring.

Koko Beaute is not an isolated case. It's possible for many women to follow the path of Koko Beaute and end up in their mid to late 30s single, never married, childless and having a high notch count. In these cases, a woman's fallback would be her educational and career achievements.

More and more women are becoming like Koko Beaute.

It's a great idea for women not to follow the example of Koko Beaute. She rode the penis carousel, sought commitment from a high value man and didn't receive it. She might still get a beta male, simp type to marry her but that's a better case scenario for her now.

I’m confused. Wouldn’t men seeking only sex wish for all beautiful women to be like this? Why would they want a disciplined, square, family seeking woman. Even Rollo has revealed he wants damaged women around.
Does hitting the wall affect DJ’s negatively? No, it doesn’t.

 

[Solomon]

Meh women like this are a dime a dozen, they may look good but they are vapid, shallow, and insufferable to be around.
I know I may sound like a broken record(as I've said this a lot recently in various threads and post) but I've gone on a couple of first dates recently with some of these types of women this summer(ended up smashing or getting top WHOOPTY EFFEN DO), these women aren't even worth smashing some of their personalities are that bad. I will say in their defense none of the women made it a requirement for me to take them to dinner. If I did It was because I chose to. Heck one girl wanted me to EFF her after meeting her for an hour in a hotel room but I took her to dinner because I wanted to get to know her better. I know I know I'm a simp for that right? 25 year old me woulda smashed them within 30 minutes with no regard for humanity but 40 year old me needs some mental stimulation and comfortability before I just stick in I guess I'm maturing?

I’m confused. Wouldn’t men seeking only sex wish for all beautiful women to be like this? Why would they want a disciplined, square, family seeking woman. Even Rollo has revealed he wants damaged women around.
Does hitting the wall affect DJ’s negatively? No, it doesn’t.

You make a fair point

I'm only speaking for myself. These women I met through OLD (yikes) both of them loved bombed me. It wasn't until I got them out in person that I realized how insufferable they were. Mind you both women were 34 and 44 respectively. However, my intention wasn't to just smash or even have a ONS. But if they pitching I'm batting lmfaooo. I go on first dates with the intention of seeing if we are compatible and like each other. The younger me woulda gone with the intention of smashing but now that I'm older I enjoy the hunt more if you catch my drift. With the 34 year old we just didn't have anything in common(she also drove 3.5 hours to see me) the 44 year old was a former party thot who is looking for a sugar daddy (she didn't use those words but I deduced that from the things she was saying) Lesson learned currently dating a cool laidback 21 year old girl who is chill AF with a pleasant personality and just overall joy to be around. We actually laugh at the same jokes and she likes anime. I'm not gonna lie @Manure Spherian I'm smitten with this girl.

I don't dislike older women like some here on the forum as I've dated some older women that are cute/beautiful. However, I tend to just have more in common hobby wise with younger women. Also younger women IME tend to be less jaded, bitter and overall a fun vibe

 

[eli77]

I’m in my 50’s and normally date woman in their 40’s or so. One of the gals I spend time with that I would rate a 7.5/8 has cute little body, big round booter, great legs etc. I think she’s quite pretty. She never had kids, she frankly is kinda nuts. She goes through phases where she laments it a great deal. To the point of tears, “I have no one”. I actually said to her once “it’s because you had them all already”. To be fair it was in a bit of an argument where she justified her mood by saying that. I was feeling particularly assholish that day.

Another woman I stopped seeing last year also quite pretty by me estimation and I’d wager many here would consider her attractive, Hyoooge natty D’s and a tight little gymnast body. Never married, no kids, same story. Now mind you both these chicks definitely have some mileage, they’re both good looking and childless. And they’re both nuts.

love your posts man!! dm me sometime.

 

[SW15]

women like this are a dime a dozen, they may look good but they are vapid, shallow, and insufferable to be around.

I think a "dime a dozen" is a bit of an exaggeration, but your point is solid. Due to the obesity crisis, there are fewer good looking women. I think there are many good looking women who are vapid, shallow, and insufferable. Koko is definitely vapid, shallow, and insufferable. Many of us forum participants have met women similar in attitude/looks to Koko.

younger women IME tend to be less jaded, bitter and overall a fun vibe

Agree with this. Their appearance is better too. Their skin has a more youthful glow and tightness to it, even compared to good looking women in their mid-30s and beyond.

Both the advantage in attitude and the advantage in looks are valuable.

Wouldn’t men seeking only sex wish for all beautiful women to be like this?

Many men seeking short term sex would get turned off by Koko's attitude. Her demands for a dinner first date would turn off a lot of short term sex seeking men, If not that, then her vapid, insufferable personality would do it. While the standards for shorter term sex are lower than longer term relationships with commitment and exclusivity, there are still some base standards. Many men are likely to consider Koko to be good looking for her age and will pursue her. If they can ignore her personality enough, then they will have sex with her. Even in the short term, her personality deficiencies would be difficult to tolerate.

Does hitting the wall affect DJ’s negatively? No, it doesn’t.

I think it's unclear if it does or not. I can see how you would think what you would think but I wouldn't align with that thinking.

First, few men are "Don Juans", players, pickup artists, alpha males, or sigma males or whatever term you want to use to describe seduction focused and knowledgeable about women's true nature males. The majority of males are beta males or Average Frustrated Chumps (AFCs). The AFC term is a term originally coined by Mystery and other PUAs of his peak era (late 1990s-early 2000s). It's a good term that I think is now underused in favor of the term beta male. The AFCs do end up dealing with this type of woman, and its not good for them, nor is it good for above average, less frustrated males.

Dealing with aging, vapid, insufferable women who will show more signs of anti-slut defense behaviors is not a pleasant experience for any man. Men like dealing with younger women who look better and have less unpleasant attitudes.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Her demands for a dinner first date would turn off a lot of short term sex seeking men,

So then what should it be? Make a phone call, meet up, screw? (I actually experienced that before marriage a few times.)

Perhaps this is incongruent with the flavor of this board, but these women don’t owe men ****, including good behavior, considering all this is outside of marriage and family formation. All is fair in hooking up. All is fair in pump and dump, “hunting,” and even in many “relationships,” I believe.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Her demands for a dinner first date

This actually seems like a low expectation. If a guy can’t blow a few hundred bucks in a night for a woman allowing him to screw her, then he’s surely not in a good spot.

 

[SW15]

This actually seems like a low expectation. If a guy can’t blow a few hundred bucks in a night for a woman allowing him to screw her, then he’s surely not in a good spot.

This is not a low expectation. Dinner in a restaurant isn't something that I think is advisable for a casual sex arrangement. I also think the common Manosphere rule of "no dinner dates in restaurants before sex" is a good rule.

There's probably some gray area on the idea of going out to a bar for drinks.

In casual sex, I'd like for it to be a zero date bang. I'd like for it to be same night sex after a nightlife venue approach.

If a man can strongly attract and seduce women, he won't need to spend $100-$250 on a night out in order to get sex. His acquisition costs will be low because the woman is DTF and doesn't need much.

I have alternated over time between being a serial monogamist and being a player over the years that I have been a seduction focused guy.

 

[RickTheToad]

Kornelija Slunjski (Koko Beaute on social media) has made a name for herself on multiple social media platforms. She is a content creator who has focuses on self-care and relationship topics. According to her YouTube bio, she is a supporter of all things female empowerment and has developed a sizable following with women.

She grew up in Croatia and has lived in New York City and Miami. She became known in the red pill and Manosphere communities for her insistence on only accepting first dates that are dinner dates in restaurants (see below -- first 30 seconds of this video). Koko Beaute is the best known example of a woman from a more traditional Eastern European nation that comes to the United States and then adopts the worst traits of White, American women. @Jesse Pinkman and I have discussed her on multiple threads previously.

This eventually led to her meeting Rollo Tomassi and having a debate with Rollo Tomassi on topics related to dating and intersexual dynamics. The Rollo-Koko Beaute debate happened on the SOSCAST podcast in April 2022.

In August 2024, the YouTube channel Man Talk put together a history of Koko Beaute. Koko has been flown out by a man with a private jet and has encouraged women to ride the penis carousel, similar to how she has ridden the penis carousel. According to Google, she is now 33 years old and has put out a video where she has explored the option of egg freezing. She has only had to explore the option of egg freezing at 33 because she has spent the last 12-15 years in New York and Miami seeking a bougie lifestyle and riding the penis carousel. She has had sex with many men and has not received an engagement ring.

Koko Beaute is not an isolated case. It's possible for many women to follow the path of Koko Beaute and end up in their mid to late 30s single, never married, childless and having a high notch count. In these cases, a woman's fallback would be her educational and career achievements.

More and more women are becoming like Koko Beaute.

It's a great idea for women not to follow the example of Koko Beaute. She rode the penis carousel, sought commitment from a high value man and didn't receive it. She might still get a beta male, simp type to marry her but that's a better case scenario for her now.

Nice DSLs.

 

[Solomon]

Also, the notion of the "wall" for women might be shifting to around 37 years old due to advancements in fertility treatments, career-focused men in their 30s, and an increasing dating pool. It often only takes a wealthy man and the illusion of dating “famous YouTuber [insert name here]” for a proposal to happen. I doubt she lacks quality people in her contacts who are interested in marrying her. To add to this point, we have pornstars like Eva Lovia who literally sucked **** in camera and now they are married with people with money and have kids. They even use the husband’s resources to create podcasts.

Totally agree former musician turned dating coach YouTuber Melli Monaco who is 34 years old announced her engagement to former NBA All-Star Gilbert Arenas who is 42 earlier this month. Gilbert during the prime of his NBA career made over $160 Million (this doesn't include advertisement money) Gilbert currently runs a very successful podcast from his mansion which features some other former notable NBA Players.

According to manosphere and RP rhetoric. Melli hit the wall and there is no way a "High-value man" like Gilbert would want her, yet it's very publicly known that Gilbert chased her for months to go on a date and now they are getting married. Which brings me to this point

I think a "dime a dozen" is a bit of an exaggeration, but your point is solid. Due to the obesity crisis, there are fewer good looking women. I think there are many good looking women who are vapid, shallow, and insufferable. Koko is definitely vapid, shallow, and insufferable. Many of us forum participants have met women similar in attitude/looks to Koko.

Let me clarify and add more context. Koko is a dime a dozen to men who are high-earning or rich. The men that she wants and values. I have never seen a fat girl in a VIP section of a rich man lol. The thing is Koko (and Melli) are not checking for men making 40K-60K a year, those men aren't even in the conversation for women of that ilk. RP men are focused on women who are not focused on them. This is why all of a sudden you see RP guru's talk about money so much in the last 4 years because these types of women aren't checking for Joe the plumber. Even a "Chad" making 100K a year is not in the conversation for marriage(or even an LTR)sure Koko and Meli might smash those guys for a ONS or situationship but when Koko is crying she is crying about rich affluent men.

The best way to put it, is like this. Imagine Red pIll men talking about fat ugly women you don't see that why? because most RP men aren't focused on those types of women(nor attracted to them). That's why you see RP guru's on podcasts, videos talking about Instagram models, Onlyfans thot etc. What do all of those women have in common? they are attractive for the most part!

In conclusion, Koko is talking about affluent men. So in those circles, Koko is nothing special, heck in some of those circles she may be considered "average". However, to most men in RP circles (including here) she would be hot and arguably for some guys the hottest woman they have ever dealt with. I broke this dynamic down in this hyperlink, it should be mandatory reading for guys who are not in the 6 figure club or more. To truly understand why most men are wasting their time trying to change women's minds that will never check for them (which weirdly in the last few years the RP is now trying to shame women for their mating choices and tell them to "Date down" not saying some of the arguments aren't valid)