Originally posted by roy01
Excellent read here.. ironically, it all makes sense to me that you shouldn't intellectualize picking up girls but go with your feelings.
Say I see this hot girl out somewhere. I feel a rush of hormones in my body and act on them 100%. The actions that follow will likely get me in trouble. Even if you're completely confident and in tune with your masculinity, I cannot imagine how you can walk up to a girl and let your sexual arousal take over, and NEVER be charged with sexual assault. It's almost common sense that one never walks up to another and start touching and groping another like that (ok, except maybe clubs.)
I hope I'm making myself clear here. Your theory makes perfect sense to me but in order for me to act completely on my sexual urges when I see a girl, it requires me to turn off the rest of my brain, including the part that helps keep me out of trouble.
Well I couldn't sleep so i thought i'd drop in on the sosuave forums. And low and behold my post is still going strong.
Here's the thing man. I'm not saying to you just walk up to a girl and start humping her. Its not about that, its about slowly conquering her step by step and staying on your goal. But if you're not getting anywhere or anywhere fast you think too ****in much. Women are attracted to a powerful man. They've done studies on female orgasms that show that it occurs basically when a women "let's go" "submits, succumbs" etc that it happens. Which is indicative that this is natures way. Strong men make strong babies able to better survive.
But look, on an evolutionary level she is looking for a bold socially intelligent man. good genes. Not a man who isn't in touch with his nature, is fake, or asexual.
I think you're worrying too much about sexual assault. As long as your aren't dating a member of N.O.W.. I have friends who grab girls in the ass at clubs for fun (not to pick them up obviousely but to have fun) guess what, no conflict no "sexual assault" lawsuit. Eventually they'll be a girl who dumps their drink on him.... i guesss??? Big freakin deal girls grab guys asses walkin by in clubs too.
There's another guy i know that's a lead singer for a band. He walks into the crowd goes up to girls he doesn't even know and makes out with them. Did he get sexual assault? nope, a lot of them just pull away big deal. Its all in fun
One thing you'll realize in life is that most people's minds perceive realities that simply aren't true therefore preventing them from taking risks to get the things they want. THIS IS A KEY POINT. Most of people who aren't reaching their goals with women what this issue, they must train themselves in this regard to diminish and open themselves up to potential failure.
One of the guys I personally mentor feared going in for a kiss from a girl. He would say "Jvesti", what if she slaps me, what if i get hit. See he had this crazy scenario in his mind that simply wasn't true unless the girl was a psycho.
I talked em into it and he went in for the kiss. He was denied. (girl was a longtime friend) Which is awesome because the more experiences he will have the better he'll be able to feel out when is the right time to kiss and who to spend time on. He is beginning to grow.
Here's an example of how it usually goes down for me:
Made plans to hit up the bar with her chill out and get to know each other better. I knew what i wanted from the get-go and kept on track. If she was cute we'd start to get intimate, she was a great girl i'd set her up for relationship, she was neither i'd leave. She could see that invincible look in my eyes, what im feelin. I have no agenda besides my emotional drives and just feeling out the situation. In fact, I never lie to a girl, I never deceive, I just am.
And with knowing what i wanted there. Start to talk to her, start to dominate the frame of conversation. Its either she does or me, i lead the reality. Next thing ya know we were talkin about sex. Within an hour i was feelin up her ass right in the bar because i wanted her to show me how nice her ass was. See I just went in gradual steps. It is quite obvious what gradual steps are if you know your end goal. You just feel it. I dont need to break it down. Its obvious that intimate conversation is closer than casual conversation, or that touching her is closer than laughing with her. A kiss is not as close as slippin her the ****.
During everytime i go out with a girl i get rejected plenty of times but i still keep on coming as i figure out how to turn the girl more on. I'm operating past the point of being risk averse which allows me to be quite successful with women. I'm not intellectualizing things just feeling the moment out. EXPERIENCE allows you to feel out the situation better and more confidently to go smoother.
Most guys will not go in any direction. They flounder and do not listen to their inner urges they dont come from it. They are all cerebral when they should be feeling out the situation in touch with what they want.
I'm willing to go out on a branch here and watch the series nip/tuck. Dr. Christian Troy actually does an incredible depiction of this. First two seasons you see more examples. But never the less. He has the invincible confident sexual vibe that he's totally comfortable with. He gets it.