Closure is nonsense.. There is no closure.
Women are rarely honest about the reason why they broke up with you & hopped onto the next cawk.
Often these type of conversations with an ex, will only open up a bunch of other questions & you're left scratching your head & chasing your tail.
Once it's broken, simply move on. Some people are glutens for punishment.
The outcome of this meeting with OPs ex was this.
OP took accountability for his mistakes.
EX accepted zero accountability.
That’s true and for the first time Im going to agree with you .That was not any closure whatsoever. For what do you need any closure? Give me a break .
There wont be any reconciliation in any other way or form. As i already said , I did that for the kid cause it was unfair for him and i didn’t want to be a participant to that kids traumas . That’s clearly a responsibility for his parents alone and that’s a line i never crossed. I took accountability as a man . Otherwise wise how can i improve as a person? It was hard to let go but it was the natural response. If you are able to lose feelings after days of ending a relationship you either never had feelings for your ex or you a psychopath.
Taking my experience as an example, im the only one who has really moved on and with clear head i hopefully can say i came out unscathed.My ex stayed the same person as she was 6 months ago and she is still bitter .She clearly hasn’t moved on at all . Not to mention she was completely stressed in front of me and she didn’t make sense most of the times . I was really indifferent in front of her while meeting her something that really surprised me cause I thought there was still something there , but really there wasn’t. I was like , wtf was i thinking all this time.
As for the No contact rule , there is no ,one way fits all. Not all examples are the same and i can bet everything that every single one of the posters have made the same mistakes or even worse . Otherwise why are you “hardcore men “in here in the first place if everything you do is perfect?
What do we learn from it ?
1)Women never take accountability
2) never lose frame
3) no matter how deeply in love you were with that person, it will get better with time
4) you are not the only one who hurts, no matter if you’re the dumper or the dumpee
5) be thankful that if they dumped you , it’s a blessing in disguise cause that way you try to improve from what you were , meanwhile the dumper feels more powerful than you cause they left you , if the think that they don’t need to improve, so they stay the same or even worse .
6) if they left you , be indifferent and dont let any emotion escape . Try to find a solution but between reasonable lines . As soon as you see lies or nonsense flying around , it’s already to late .
7) gut feeling never failed you
8) your friends might be your blessing or your biggest danger . They might think they help you but actually they do the opposite. Follow only the number 7) They gonna tell you that your ex is living life to fullest because they post happy stories on insta . Biggest lie ever.
9) just because they show a fantastic lifestyle in Instagram it doesn’t mean that it’s really based on reality. Social media in our time and date , is completely disconnected with real life.
10) grass is always greener for the dumpee . The same cannot be said for the dumper .
11) just because your ex feels hurt or bad about the breakup, doesn’t mean you have to make it easier for them and fix it for them . Each party has 50-50 , and if they the ones who broke it off , they have to do the hard work and make things right again .
12) if she doesn’t come back , thank her . If she do , be the bigger man , be gentleman first and no need to be bitter . Reject her and move on. Sometimes replacing something is the only option if there is no absolute way to fix things. You have to set the rules .
13) appreciate them because without them , you wouldn’t have the experience to deal with it , and my few examples are the proof of it .