Dating expert reveals why older celebrities are ditching the dating scene

[MatureDJ]

Why older celebrities - like Linda Evangelista - are ditching romance

Dating expert Julie Spira has revealed why older women have sworn off dating as a slew of celebrities - including Linda, Drew, and Jane Fonda - have shared their lack of interest in romance.

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A dating expert has revealed why older women have sworn off dating as a slew of celebrities - including Linda Evangelista, Drew Barrymore, and Jane Fonda - have come forward to share their lack of interest in romance.

Linda, 58, recently dished on her stance on love and shared that she refuses to share a bed with someone because she doesn't want to hear them 'breathing.'

The Canadian model's confession comes after Drew, 48; Jane, 85; and Whoopi Goldberg, 68, also shared their disinterest in relationships.

My opinion why:

 

[SW15]

The Wall is softer than we think. There's plenty of demand out there for a 50+ woman on a dating website or a dating app. There are plenty of similarly aged thirsty men hitting up 50+ women via tech-based methods.

I was surprised that 77 year old Diane Keaton hasn't gone on a date in roughly 35 years. I would have thought someone would have been interested in her at some point in the last 35 years.

Linda Evangelista has options at 58, like Paulina Porizkova did. If women are swearing off dating, it is because they are unsatisfied with their options, likely due to being too fussy.

 

[corrector]

The Wall is softer than we think. There's plenty of demand out there for a 50+ woman on a dating website or a dating app. There are plenty of similarly aged thirsty men hitting up 50+ women via tech-based methods.

I was surprised that 77 year old Diane Keaton hasn't gone on a date in roughly 35 years. I would have thought someone would have been interested in her at some point in the last 35 years.

Linda Evangelista has options at 58, like Paulina Porizkova did. If women are swearing off dating, it is because they are unsatisfied with their options, likely due to being too fussy.

Great negative posts. You managed to turn an article about celebrities to reflect how terrible dating apps are and why guys are wasting their time on them. A 77 year old woman can do better on a dating app than most guys on here, lol! Then why would anyone waste their time on a dating app.....really brilliant.....and I thought I was the most negative poster on here but you get the gold medal.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi MDJ,
Jane Fonda must be 86 in the shade LOL....She said six years ago she had "shut up shop down there"...Old Wine in new bottles....What the aging DJ comes to appreciate is that many post Menopause Women have,painful problems with Svex.

 

[zekko]

The article says "older celebrities are ditching the dating scene", but all the examples are women. These are just more examples of women deciding they don't need (or more specifically, want) men.

As an older person myself, I can kind of understand it. Dating is made more for young people, it's more exciting for young people. Who's going to get that excited about getting into some 60 year old person's pants? But having said that, dating is great, as long as you have someone you like to be around.

 

[SW15]

The article says "older celebrities are ditching the dating scene", but all the examples are women. These are just more examples of women deciding they don't need (or more specifically, want) men.

This is an example of the gynocentric social order that Rollo mentions all the time.

As an older person myself, I can kind of understand it. Dating is made more for young people, it's more exciting for young people. Who's going to get that excited about getting into some 60 year old person's pants? But having said that, dating is great, as long as you have someone you like to be around.

At a certain point, dating when aging is no longer fun. I think that point happens at various points for various people.

The point about the sexual element of it was a good point, especially for the 50+ set. The typical 50-65 year old man is getting together with a 50-65 year old woman. Both their bodies are less attractive. Men are more visually oriented so seeing a 55 year old woman naked isn't thrilling for a 57 year old man. That's likely the only sex that a typical 57 year old man can get.

Cohabitating or marriage after a certain age feels like an awkward corporate merger, especially when people are bringing children from past relationships into the picture. It doesn't matter whether the children are under 18 or 18+. Both children who are minors and adult children do not like their parents in new relationships. Often times, at least one of the partners was previously married and divorced. It's an awkward corporate merger because you have adults who lived most of their lives apart coming together in middle age or later. It's a much different dynamic than people who meet somewhere between 16-27 and eventually marry. They build a lot of shared memories and a life together. When people who are 35+ or 40+ get into a serious relationship and/or marriage, these are people who have developed a large part of their adult lives away from this romantic partner. Their identities were formed more by what happened in their teen and younger adult years and this partner from middle age or later was never a part of it. It's difficult to build a life together with someone who wasn't present for a very long stretch of it.

 

[zekko]

At a certain point, dating when aging is no longer fun. I think that point happens at various points for various people.

I wouldn't say dating is no longer fun as you get older, but it becomes a matter of diminishing returns. Really, I'm not sure dating is exactly fun at any age, depending on the situation. If you like the girl and she likes you back, it's fun. If you like the girl and she's not reacting the way you want her to, that's not so fun. This is one reason I like LTRs, you don't have to deal with all that nonsense.

The point about the sexual element of it was a good point, especially for the 50+ set. The typical 50-65 year old man is getting together with a 50-65 year old woman. Both their bodies are less attractive. Men are more visually oriented so seeing a 55 year old woman naked isn't thrilling for a 57 year old man. That's likely the only sex that a typical 57 year old man can get.

You can also look at it from the other perspective. A person wants to be attractive to their partner, and no matter how good shape you're in, there's a little less appeal in the idea of presenting a woman with a 65 year old body than one that's 28. It's like the difference between a Ferrari and a used Pinto. I imagine this must be a much more intense awareness for women, since they are the ones who are supposed to have the sexually desirable bodies, and there is a much bigger difference in a woman's body in her prime and when she approaches her geriatric years.

And as you say, older people are much more set in their ways. And marriage is designed for fertile young couples, a relationship for an older couple isn't going to go in that same direction.

 

[SW15]

I wouldn't say dating is no longer fun as you get older, but it becomes a matter of diminishing returns. Really, I'm not sure dating is exactly fun at any age, depending on the situation. If you like the girl and she likes you back, it's fun. If you like the girl and she's not reacting the way you want her to, that's not so fun.

The early stages of dating are not fun at any age. I think they become even less fun at older ages.

This is one reason I like LTRs, you don't have to deal with all that nonsense.

I agree with this to an extent. LTRs do keep someone out of the dating market for some time and avoiding the unpleasant early stages of dating. LTRs are prone to decay so eventually a person will either need to live with some decaying LTR or go back into the dating market and face the problems of the early stages of dating again.

You can also look at it from the other perspective. A person wants to be attractive to their partner, and no matter how good shape you're in, there's a little less appeal in the idea of presenting a woman with a 65 year old body than one that's 28. It's like the difference between a Ferrari and a used Pinto. I imagine this must be a much more intense awareness for women, since they are the ones who are supposed to have the sexually desirable bodies, and there is a much bigger difference in a woman's body in her prime and when she approaches her geriatric years.

I agree with this point of view.

And as you say, older people are much more set in their ways. And marriage is designed for fertile young couples, a relationship for an older couple isn't going to go in that same direction.

There are plenty of older people who get married. There are plenty of post menopausal women who get married. A lot of these post menopausal women have children who are teens or young adults. When a post menopausal woman gets married to some old man, the adult children of each spouse in the older marrying couples will not like it. It leads to some very forced and unnatural familial gatherings at holidays. At best, the adult children are being cordial with each other and not letting their underlying dislike for the situation show much. In less than best case scenarios, there is discord and drama.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

What the aging DJ comes to appreciate is that many post-menopausal women have painful problems with Svex.

That's primarily due to the thinning of the vaginal walls when their estrogen levels drop.

Here in the US, many women who are post-menopause sometimes use hormone replacement therapy and can stay as wet as they ever did, sometimes more so. It's usually women who are in decent shape who already have a healthy libido.

 

[Ricky]

Yeah i think alot of this lack of interest in dating for women as they age has more to due with a lack of sexual drive

 

[Scaramouche]

HiRicky,
"lack of interest in dating for women as they age has more to due with a lack of sexual drive"....Yeah,but at their age can you really blame them?...the novelty wears off,as some wit on here so aptly put it,at their,age many have seen more Dvick than the Urinal at Grand Central Station...then on the other hand a fortnight ago I attended a little soiree at a Mates Bridge club,a bit after my initial introduction,an old Bird who I have since been told is 86,sidled up along side me and said..."Say Scarra,I hear you are a bit of a Tiger,If ever you're interested here's my business card,"!!!Takes all kinds Huh?

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Pierce,
I know you are very well informed in this area,but many Ladies I hear about would love to indulge in HRT ,some do,but several including a Nurse of my acquaintence,have suggested caution,as it seems there is a heightened risk of Cancer?

 

[Hal9000]

Yeah there's a big difference between giving up on dating because you have no options(like many men that age) and giving up because you still want the same kind of guys you were banging in the 80s and those guys have no interest in you any more. Two entirely different realities there. These rich, famous women (well maybe not Whoopie) would have guys lined up to be with them in whatever capacity but as noted above, they are the "wrong" guys so these chick's are taking their ball and going home. Cry me a river ladies.

 

[pipeman84]

I look at the 2 first photos and I see 2 women way way past sell date and with the baggage of a cargo aircraft showing on their faces. THEY gave up dating? My question is what guy in his right mind would date them? For what purpose?
Let's be real here, unless a guy has serious mental issues or is a crook, there is absolutely no reason to engage with, let alone date, a 48yrs old, 3 times divorcee with 2 kids or a 58yrs old divorcee.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Hi Pierce,
I know you are very well informed in this area,but many Ladies I hear about would love to indulge in HRT ,some do,but several including a Nurse of my acquaintence,have suggested caution,as it seems there is a heightened risk of Cancer?

There have been many studies done on this. The way I see it is most of the studies where either animal models (designed for much shorter time frames due to shorter life spans), or insufficient data to be statistically relevant. Also the increased % per the studies themselves are usually low single digit if that.

The quality of life improvement in my opinion greatly outweighs the potential side effects. Women on HRT are post-menopausal meaning most likely 55+, a cohort that already has a higher risk of cancer (human bodies were not designed to live much past the reproductive or productive stages of life).

Current Evidence of the Oncological Benefit-Risk Profile of Hormone Replacement Therapy - PMC

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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

All about hormone replacement therapy (HRT)

Taking HRT for menopause may increase risk for some cancers and decrease risk for others. Understand the benefits and risks.

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Hormone replacement therapy in women with cancer and risk of cancer-specific mortality and cardiovascular disease: a protocol for a cohort study from Scotland and Wales - BMC Cancer

Background Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) is widely used and has proven benefits for women with menopausal symptoms. An increasing number of women with cancer experience menopausal symptoms but the safety of HRT use in women with cancer is unclear. There are particular concerns that HRT could...

bmccancer.biomedcentral.com

Hormone Therapy and Risk of Breast Cancer: Where Are We Now? - PMC

Several studies have examined the clinical benefits of hormone replacement therapy (HRT). However, because long-term use of HRT has been implicated as a risk factor for the development of breast cancer, some women remain skeptical when considering ...

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Hormone replacement therapy and cancer survival: a longitudinal cohort study: protocol paper | BMJ Open

bmjopen.bmj.com

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I have female family members 55+ that are always complaining about their lack of options in dating.

When I ask questions of them it seems like they always nitpick men to death, they disqualify a man for an off-color joke t-shirt, or some other inconsequential detail. It’s like they’re myopic does an overweight woman who is 55+ truly expect a 55+ zaddy who can pull 40 year olds to even notice them? Really? Seriously?

Same things apply: fit, handsome, rich, educated, generous - they cannot calibrate for some reason and it’s why their corpses will be found predated by their herd of cats/dogs weeks after they expire, ALONE. (Said for comic relief, but it HAS occurred).

 

[MatureDJ]

Hi MDJ,
Jane Fonda must be 86 in the shade LOL....She said six years ago she had "shut up shop down there"...Old Wine in new bottles....What the aging DJ comes to appreciate is that many post Menopause Women have,painful problems with Svex.

She'll always be Hanoi Jane to me:

 

[MatureDJ]

I wouldn't say dating is no longer fun as you get older, but it becomes a matter of diminishing returns. Really, I'm not sure dating is exactly fun at any age, depending on the situation. If you like the girl and she likes you back, it's fun. If you like the girl and she's not reacting the way you want her to, that's not so fun. This is one reason I like LTRs, you don't have to deal with all that nonsense.


You can also look at it from the other perspective. A person wants to be attractive to their partner, and no matter how good shape you're in, there's a little less appeal in the idea of presenting a woman with a 65 year old body than one that's 28. It's like the difference between a Ferrari and a used Pinto. I imagine this must be a much more intense awareness for women, since they are the ones who are supposed to have the sexually desirable bodies, and there is a much bigger difference in a woman's body in her prime and when she approaches her geriatric years.

And as you say, older people are much more set in their ways. And marriage is designed for fertile young couples, a relationship for an older couple isn't going to go in that same direction.

It's OVER for UsedPintoCels.

 

[zekko]

It's OVER for UsedPintoCels.

Well brother, I may be a used Pinto, but I ain't no Cel.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I’m more like a near vintage showroom quality 300SD, the standard by which all luxury sedans are measured since its introduction. And most newer models cannot even touch it…

Floats like a Cadillac and stings like a Beemer.