What Are The Green Flags You Look For In A Keeper?

[pipeman84]

When you make it a goal to never masturbate and only release your seed during sex.. suddenly you find yourself having sex more.

How is this supposed to happen? Will hot women magically knock on your door and offer sex just because you stopped masturbating?

This.. I feel much more motivated to talk to girls, cold approach.. It's the only option you have considering fapping is out of the picture & so is P0rn.

From talking to girls/cold approaching to sex with them there's quite a jump. And if you specifically approach because you're horny, they will sense that and the already low odds of something happening will become even lower.
IMO this current anti masturbating movement is one of the dumbest ideas there are out there. It's even dumber than the old, religious motivated one. It's a totally natural urge to unload, particularly if you're a healthy, fit male and it makes absolutely no logical sense to fight against it. There are no benefits, only downsides, as for instance distracting you from your daily activities and potentially turning you into a creep who harasses women in order to obtain sex.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

IMO this current anti masturbating movement is one of the dumbest ideas there are out there. It's even dumber than the old, religious motivated one.

Desperate people will do desperate things in order to regain control.
If you feel guilty about masturbating, like these 'no fapping' guys seem to be, then your mindset might improve from not engaging in activities that make you feel guilty.

 

[member162951]

How is this supposed to happen? Will hot women magically knock on your door and offer sex just because you stopped masturbating?

From talking to girls/cold approaching to sex with them there's quite a jump. And if you specifically approach because you're horny, they will sense that and the already low odds of something happening will become even lower.
IMO this current anti masturbating movement is one of the dumbest ideas there are out there. It's even dumber than the old, religious motivated one. It's a totally natural urge to unload, particularly if you're a healthy, fit male and it makes absolutely no logical sense to fight against it. There are no benefits, only downsides, as for instance distracting you from your daily activities and potentially turning you into a creep who harasses women in order to obtain sex.

@pipeman84 other than your views on virgins, I agree with virtually everything you post including this^ post.

I actually recall a time not too long ago when a man was advised "to" masturbate before a date so as to NOT appear so thirsty and anxious. And to last longer whenever sex did happen.

What happened? Now it's ditch masturbating altogether?

Common sense dictates not masturbating will result in you becoming more thirsty and @pipeman84 is right, women can and will sense that thirst and deem you a creep.

It also relieves tension and anxiety, serves as a natural sleep aid and will actually give you more energy as you're sleeping better, naturally.

I dunno, don't mean to invalidate your experiences with no fap but I’m wondering if it's similar to a placebo effect.

Everything in moderation.

 

[Serenity]

@pipeman84 other than your views on virgins, I agree with virtually everything you post including this^ post.

I actually recall a time not too long ago when a man was advised "to" masturbate before a date so as to NOT appear so thirsty and anxious. And to last longer whenever sex did happen.

What happened? Now it's ditch masturbating altogether?

Common sense dictates not masturbating will result in you becoming more thirsty and @pipeman84 is right, women can and will sense that thirst and deem you a creep.

It also relieves tension and anxiety, serves as a natural sleep aid and will actually give you more energy as you're sleeping better, naturally.

I dunno, don't mean to invalidate your experiences with no fap but I’m wondering if it's similar to a placebo effect.

Everything in moderation.

I have a personal anecdote regarding this.

During the period of time I struggled the most just getting out there making some sort of effort getting laid, I noticed that the satisfaction a good fap gave me lowered my motivation to even bother getting the real thing. I also noticed the increased urge for release the longer I went.

That is not to say your logic is wrong, it can absolutely work in a way making you act thirsty in an unproductive way. Gaining the energy is just half the equation, it's useless if you can't channel it productively. I became aware of that.

I denied myself the easy way to release, a woman was going to be involved or I'll have to suffer with the ever increasing urge. I was aware that appearing thirsty might be counterproductive, that it might not lead to release. It still had to happen and I had to find another way other than by my own hand, a way that would actually work.

Something weird happens to your state of mind if you push it far enough within those limitations, you'll start getting REALLY creative. Is it desperation? Yes it is, in fact more than ever, but I took advantage of that to force myself into finding a way before I went insane.

I view no fap as a way to trick your mind into going for the real thing when normally the mind works against your desires. Worked pretty well for me who used to be a master of making up excuses to not push myself into action.

As I said, you'll have to channel the energy that keeps building up and you'll have to be smart about it. Main priority is getting laid when you're in that mode, do what it takes.

 

[zekko]

I view no fap as a way to trick your mind into going for the real thing when normally the mind works against your desires. Worked pretty well for me who used to be a master of making up excuses to not push myself into action.

Without getting into the no fap debate: If you have to trick your mind into going out and getting laid, it makes you wonder just how important it really is?

 

[Serenity]

Without getting into the no fap debate: If you have to trick your mind into going out and getting laid, it makes you wonder just how important it really is?

It was a strategy to overcome the feeling of anxiety and the excuses that follow. The alternative was to continue being the loser I had been, which wasn't working for me anymore. It was useful for a brief period in my life and it was a stepping stone towards where I am today, I have no use for that strategy today.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I noticed that the satisfaction a good fap gave me lowered my motivation to even bother getting the real thing

"the real thing"?
That sounds like you compare masturbation to intercourse.
Like comparing brushing your teeth to having them cleaned by an oral hygienist.

Masturbation is the 'real thing' in itself. You shouldn't compare that with having sex with someone else.

 

[Serenity]

"the real thing"?
That sounds like you compare masturbation to intercourse.
Like comparing brushing your teeth to having them cleaned by an oral hygienist.

Masturbation is the 'real thing' in itself. You shouldn't compare that with having sex with someone else.

Whatever, that was my perspective back then and it gave me that extra push against my anxiety to go get sex. I don't have any sort of anxiety anymore so this strategy is irrelevant to me these days.

I wanted sex, but used masturbation as a substitute to avoid leaving my comfort zone to go get what I actually wanted. That's the point here, don't get hung up on the semantics.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I wanted sex, but used masturbation as a substitute to avoid leaving my comfort zone to go get what I actually wanted. That's the point here, don't get hung up on the semantics.

That's fine, but people who read here might not get that.

 

[Nitrozv20]

Loves herself enough to take care of her body and her mind
Has a relationship with God
Able to communicate even when its going to hurt
Loyal
Complements my life and makes it easier for me (cooks, cleans, does my laundry when i dont ask)
genuine burning desire
Respects me
Doesnt bring any bs drama
Doesnt party or drink much
no drugs
Believes in me and my goals and is a supporter of that and not a road block

 

[EyeBRollin]

See below:

I laid out a lot here for no nos. So the green flags are women with no children, were raised in a two-parent household, have no desire to be in the spot light, and no desire to work crazy long hours in a demanding field such as law or medicine. Her appearance should be wholesome.

 

[Scars]

How is this supposed to happen? Will hot women magically knock on your door and offer sex just because you stopped masturbating?

*Sigh*

You just don't get it.

 

[soulforge]

Loves herself enough to take care of her body and her mind
Has a relationship with God
Able to communicate even when its going to hurt
Loyal
Complements my life and makes it easier for me (cooks, cleans, does my laundry when i dont ask)
genuine burning desire
Respects me
Doesnt bring any bs drama
Doesnt party or drink much
no drugs
Believes in me and my goals and is a supporter of that and not a road block

So literally a Unicorn? Lol

 

[Nitrozv20]

So literally a Unicorn? Lol

pretty much, but ill hold out and wont settle for less

 

[self_is_an_illusion]

So moving forward, what qualifications should a guy look out for, in order to elevate her from sex only, to LTR Material.

What top six qualities would you look for in order to take her seriously for LTR.

emotionally stable and she likes her dad

 

[Cowboy-Cheems]

My short list would be the following:

Rarely or never discusses former relationships

Does not have chronic addiction to social media

Has a healthy hobby

Has Healthy relationship with her family

Takes care of her physical health and mental health

 

[soulforge]

My short list would be the following:

Rarely or never discusses former relationships

Does not have chronic addiction to social media

Has a healthy hobby

Has Healthy relationship with her family

Takes care of her physical health and mental health

These is a good list, especially healthy relationship with her family, this MUST include her father, if her father isn't in the picture, she is likely a hoe..

And mental health.. any suggestion of mental health issues, anxiety etc, she will likely be unstable.