Any man who ever has dated a beautiful woman knows that they will always get hit on. Guess what men will approach her in person (or online)heck men would even approach her while she is with you
This is true. Most of this conversation has been focused around women getting hit on while using social media. For the purposes of this thread, it is assumed a woman in an LTR is not actively using a dating app. Though, it has been observed that there are women in relationships are on dating apps to survey the market as their LTR is going downhill or to get some validation. That's a topic for another conversation.
Women get hit on both using social media and in person. Most of the discussion here focused on women getting hit on while using Instagram and that's certainly warranted. Women also get hit on using other social media platforms too. While Facebook has diminished in the last 10-12 years (Facebook has been around since 2004), women can still get hit on using Facebook. It's extremely common for women who actively use LinkedIn to get hit on while using LinkedIn.
Women in relationships get hit on all the time in real life. I've done a lot of approaches in the real world. It is likely that many of my approaches have been on women already in relationships. Almost all of these women in relationships are not very receptive to these in-person approaches, and most of them fade out within 30 seconds. In those 30 seconds or so, they don't manage to tell me their relationship status, so I can only guess it.
Most women are fielding fewer in-person approaches as compared to their equivalent age woman 20-25 years ago. A 25 year old woman in 2000 was approached more in person than a 25 year old woman in 2023. In 2000, dating websites existed but were still stigmatized as something for losers, so most approaching was still done in-person in 2000. More people were motivated to approach in the real world in 2000. In 2023, more of the initiation of interactions has moved to the digital space, so fewer men feel the need to start interactions in person because they are able to do it all behind some screen electronically.
I know in 2023 the Redpill talking point is don't date women on Instagram or social media. Well good luck being single then because a majority of women have social media in 2023 and if you think she will delete it for you, she will just laugh in your face (please try it in person not something you heard online or read but actually try it with a woman and tell me how it ended up for you).
Good luck trying to have a woman delete her Instagram or Facebook who works in the fashion industry, beauty industry or any industry where they utilize their looks for monetary opportunities(I'm speaking from experience as a guy who was a videographer in the fashion industry for a couple of years) or just her social media in general because that's how she communicates with her friends and family.
I said the same thing in different words earlier in the thread so I agree. It's nearly impossible to find a woman who isn't on social media. It is possible to find a woman who is an infrequent user of social media and one who doesn't post thirst trap photos.
I would say that I have women hit on me more when I am in a relationship than when I'm not.
This is a common experience for men.
That being said, even the 6.5 are getting corrupted and mind fuked by constant exposure to social media.
Any woman with over 1K followers isn't deleting her instagram for anybody she's casually dating and asking her to do so screams insecurity
True. They also won't do that for anyone they are seriously dating and most men won't even ask for that. 1K followers isn't also that much either.
OP, this is well intentioned but really it will not work. The main thing is, if your girl is an 8 or above in 2023, there are a few factors you must have in order for her to be loyal:
1) The "be there first" guy. You met her while you were in college and high school and pair bonded naturally before her hypergamy kicked in.
2) You are above her SMV somehow, so you are exceptionally good looking, or very rich. Preferably both.
8s and above might not use swipe apps as much to find dates, but they are getting plenty of DMs on social media. They all have social media.
It's difficult to be the "be there first" guy. It's possible to get a woman earlier in her sexual history, which would be before she turns 23/graduates college if she attends college. I'm thinking about the women I met in my freshman year dorm when I was 18 in the 2001-2002 school year. In Fall 2001 when they arrived on campus, I would say most women I met in my dorm and in 1st semester freshman year classes had a notch count between 1-5. While not unspoiled, these women were less spoiled that the typical 27-35 year old.
Some men will have a multiple year LTR or even marry their primary girlfriend from college. It is becoming less common for couples meeting in college to stand the test of time. Most college graduates are not with their college era romantic partner 5 years after graduation.
Item 2 will always work. Guys don't want to go too far down in SMV for longer term relationship (guys might go down 1-2 points for an LTR). Guys will go 2 points or more down for shorter term casual sex but not a longer term relationship.
The real question on everyones lips should be how will this dynamic play out as E girls get older, I can't see how single women in their 30's & 40's are going to be able to garner anywhere near the level of attention as they did in their 20's
There are plenty of women in their 30s/40s right now who aren't in relationships, post sexy pics on Instagram, and get plenty of attention for it.
Women in their 30s/40s are not lacking for attention on either swipe apps or social media.
There are even women in their 30s/40s doing very well earning money on OnlyFans. We had one such thread about this last year.
So disgraceful dudes are that thirsty these days they would pay to see mild content from an average looking post wall 39 year old woman... What the hell is wrong with these dudes? https://news.yahoo.com/meet-family-behind-texas-thighs-083012479.html
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