The Difference Between Covert Disrespect & Overt Disrespect

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Hey man, as loong as they're girl problems and not money or health problems, best place to be in ;)
Girls these days are ruthless man,if you do not escalate as fast and much as she likes you to escalate then she will turn into the devil

I think that the biggest change in the dating scene is the shortening of lane for escalation, 10 years ago if a girl was into you you had a bigger escalation window.

Now, the escalation window is here and there and is better to try to f8ck her and she rejecting you ( in the worst case scenario ) than to take your time and escalate progressively over a longer time ( because maybe for some reason your logistics are not on point or whatever problem you have on the spot )

there is always some aggressive dude in the flock and women always misinterpret aggressiveness with interest

but, it kinda makes sense… those aggressive guys give the vibe of being better leaders and knowing what they want

I started dating like 10 years ago, and even though through the years I have noticed that the escalation windows are getting smaller and smaller…i never really changed my approach significantly as I always thought that working on the connection side of things tops blunt sexual aggressiveness

it does not haha … jokes on my I guess
 

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And she did stop that attitude, once I roasted her 10x worse lol


Nah actually that isn't the case she carried on like that a few times, I just laughed most of it off.. in-fact i roasted the chit out of her straight back.

As for the weight gain, mocking is a massive motivation for me. I laughed it off and within weeks got back in great shape, and now super lean.

The only time I really checked her was, when she was outright disrespectful which happened once. The second time she was outright disrespectful I ended chit with her.

Those mocking incidents I mentioned, I didn't react to them.. I let them slide and just mocked back somewhat.

The whole point of my thread was, should I have nipped them in the bud.

Some people take an inch and run a mile.

It's a slippery slope when it comes to disrespect.

By the way I've been training over twenty years, rarely do I get out of shape, other then the month or so I mentioned, as I was on holiday a few times haha
maybe your problem is that you are not that aggressive, like kissing her in the first 30 minutes and grabbing her by the p8ssy in like 1h

you might think that I am joking, but I am not :)

from experience apparently is better to be rejected by doing a bold move, than to take things step by step or wait for a moment

maybe that is also the underlying joke about your age, guys her age would have tried to get her naked by the time she teased your about your age and she thought that it did not happen because your age ( as it was a thing back in the days to move slower )

this is what girls do when you do not perform as expected, they start teasing you to give you the hint and be balder

for sure they are not d1cks and just make fun of you for the sake of making fun. That is why women get offended when you tease them about physical appearance because they do not really understand teasing and is always an emotional response to something when they tease a guy. It is nothing deliberate as it is in the case of guys
 
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Also, from my end I think that the biggest stress factor that a man has to go these days is that it is expected to always be ready to be the king of the show in regards to all aspects of his life ; work, money, hobbies, smv, dating, winning etc etc

women especially do not give a f8ck that you are stressed by work, or that you are tired or that for some reason you do not feel good physically. They want you to run the show and be the king of the castle, they are no emphatic at all if it is not the case

you are either 90-100% ready, either you are close to being a l0ser
 

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maybe your problem is that you are not that aggressive, like kissing her in the first 30 minutes and grabbing her by the p8ssy in like 1h

you might think that I am joking, but I am not :)

from experience apparently is better to be rejected by doing a bold move, than to take things step by step or wait for a moment

maybe that is also the underlying joke about your age, guys her age would have tried to get her naked by the time she teased your about your age and she thought that it did not happen because your age ( as it was a thing back in the days to move slower )

this is what girls do when you do not perform as expected, they start teasing you to give you the hint and be balder

for sure they are not d1cks and just make fun of you for the sake of making fun. That is why women get offended when you tease them about physical appearance because they do not really understand teasing and is always an emotional response to something when they tease a guy. It is nothing deliberate as it is in the case of guys
Haha no man, I'm super agressive Sexualy. Literally I dominate those chicks immediately. Throw them around like fukin rag dolls.

Something people are overlooking is.. Some girls are just bichy man, and will say dumb chit that is borderline disrespectful.
 

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Haha no man, I'm super agressive Sexualy. Literally I dominate those chicks immediately. Throw them around like fukin rag dolls.

Something people are overlooking is.. Some girls are just bichy man, and will say dumb chit that is borderline disrespectful.
was she compliant when you were escalating?

if she was, women say dumb things due to their emotions… but also a sh1t testing if she is getting ready for sex

also young women are stupider from a social point of view, they younger generations got dumber and dumber from this point of view
 

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You’re talking to someone with so much ego that it prohibits them from being a better man. Also one that is so hungover off his ‘prized’ psycho b!tch where he has to mention it every post
She wasn't a Psycho, just very unstable haha

Anyway the point of the thread is to recognise the minor transgressions & deal with them, otherwise often they will snowball into a much bigger issue.

Some people feel like its best to ignore the small incidents & brush it off.

Others (including myself) believe the small acts of mockery/are usually a testing phase, for her to start some serious issues further down the line.

It's a difficult one.
 

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She wasn't a Psycho, just very unstable haha

Anyway the point of the thread is to recognise the minor transgressions & deal with them, otherwise often they will snowball into a much bigger issue.

Some people feel like its best to ignore the small incidents & brush it off.

Others (including myself) believe the small acts of mockery/are usually a testing phase, for her to start some serious issues further down the line.

It's a difficult one.
man, was she compliant when you were escalating?
 

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man, was she compliant when you were escalating?
Yeh always. However in an LTR the landscape is a little different from when you're escalating with a chick that you just started dating and you want to bang.
 

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Yeh always. However in an LTR the landscape is a little different from when you're escalating with a chick that you just started dating and you want to bang.
yeah, most likely she sensed that you have a weakness in the age Gap between the 2 of you and wanted to see if it is the case :)

looks like she was correct based on your reaction
 

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yeah, most likely she sensed that you have a weakness in the age Gap between the 2 of you and wanted to see if it is the case :)

looks like she was correct based on your reaction
What reaction? I gave no reaction, and carried on with my day.
 

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What reaction? I gave no reaction, and carried on with my day.
and opened a thread about this here haha

look man, I am not making fun of you or stuff like that. Just trying to be helpful

but if you got buthurt enough to open a thread here, most likely you also gave away non verbal hints that you are buthurt to her

most likely initially she mentioned something about the age gap and saw you changing and then started digging till said something a bit more aggressive to gauge your reaction

maybe you should learn to be a bit more relaxed in a relationship and learn how to deflect things like this properly by exaggerating for example

her ; the age gap is so big
You : what can I do, girls just like big penis older guys
Her : haha
You : winking devilish
 

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and opened a thread about this here haha

look man, I am not making fun of you or stuff like that. Just trying to be helpful

but if you got buthurt enough to open a thread here, most likely you also gave away non verbal hints that you are buthurt to her

most likely initially she mentioned something about the age gap and saw you changing and then started digging till said something a bit more aggressive to gauge your reaction

maybe you should learn to be a bit more relaxed in a relationship and learn how to deflect things like this properly by exaggerating for example

her ; the age gap is so big
You : what can I do, girls just like big penis older guys
Her : haha
You : winking devilish
Dude you really need to go back to school and learn to read (no offense) but your living in clown world right now.

Be a good boy and read my opening thread.

This was a GENERAL thread about, how people treat covert & overt disrespect. And how to identify the difference.

Not about me. Just a general thing.

My personal tack is just to laugh the little things off and usually roast her a little.


Obviously when it comes to real disrespect I take a much tougher approach.

This was a general conversation about how others deal with these types of situations.

My man I hope you learn to read better. I will pray for you.
 

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and opened a thread about this here haha

look man, I am not making fun of you or stuff like that. Just trying to be helpful

but if you got buthurt enough to open a thread here, most likely you also gave away non verbal hints that you are buthurt to her

most likely initially she mentioned something about the age gap and saw you changing and then started digging till said something a bit more aggressive to gauge your reaction

maybe you should learn to be a bit more relaxed in a relationship and learn how to deflect things like this properly by exaggerating for example

her ; the age gap is so big
You : what can I do, girls just like big penis older guys
Her : haha
You : winking devilish
Dude want to know my reaction to the age gap thing? Hopefully this might satisfy you.

First off all she didn't say squat about the age gap
, so your kinda not making any sense dude, again maybe struggling with reading like I pointed out earlier.

We walked past an elderly persons nursing home & she joked about me moving in there.

How did I react? My words exactly.

Laughed about it, followed by.. Hey it's not a bad thing, cooked meals & chilling all day, and you can come over daily & suck my dik off. The perfect life.
 

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Dude you really need to go back to school and learn to read (no offense) but your living in clown world right now.

Be a good boy and read my opening thread.

This was a GENERAL thread about, how people treat covert & overt disrespect. And how to identify the difference.

Not about me. Just a general thing.

My personal tack is just to laugh the little things off and usually roast her a little.


Obviously when it comes to real disrespect I take a much tougher approach.

This was a general conversation about how others deal with these types of situations.

My man I hope you learn to read better. I will pray for you.
for sure, you going overboard like this makes a lot of sense too :)

If I learn how to read from your point of view, I hope that you learn to chill from my end

best of luck
 

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Thats the car that fits you better while pointing a crappy car ---> yeah the best I could drive when I come to pick you up

That crappy house with crappy furnitures seems made for you ---> more like the one of the men that you will finally settle with

Very important, dont be angry or annoyed when you say it, smile and HAVE FUN to troll them scientifically.

That time it will be her to get angry and you can make fun of her for being so sensitive.

Me personally, the harsh the disrespect I get, the harder I laught at them with the come backs.

See it as an opportunity for letting your inner bastard be free.
 
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There's playful joking, teasing and bantering but that’s NOT what this is. They are insults "disguised" as jokes in an attempt to knock you down and make herself seem superior. They're mean, period.

When this happens, flip the script and respond "well what does it say about YOU that you're dating me? Way worse I assure you."

Then LEAVE, it's borderline mental abuse imo, nothing at all to do with teasing, joking or bantering.
 

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Guys I am not saying that mockery like this, shouldn't be taken with a pinch of salt & we simply roast her right back... I tend to roast the chit out of them myself right back.

I am just saying, that some girls will be playful with it & the sinister biches will use this type of mockery so they can escalate even further to serious disrespect.

I am just saying we should be wary of shyte like this.
 

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This type of mockery is passive aggressive, where she can always revert to 'I was just joking', but you can also just tell her that you thought she had a sense of humour, but apparently she doesn't, so this is goodbye. And just walk away.
 

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This type of mockery is passive aggressive, where she can always revert to 'I was just joking', but you can also just tell her that you thought she had a sense of humour, but apparently she doesn't, so this is goodbye. And just walk away.
I agree with that. I simply made this thread to make guys aware that you will get two types of girls.

The one who will genuinely tease a little and be playful, no harm or foul intended.

And then the other girl, who will disguise mockery in the form of a (joke humour) to belittle you & more importantly to test how much she can get away with down the line.
 
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