Guys care about a girl's socio-economic status

[Dr.Suave]

I dont know many girls above my socio economic status in my social circles that pass the boner test.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I believe the issue is not her socio-economical status but her thinking processes and habists as much as her social circle.

I would equally avoid an humble girl that has low advanced social skills as much as a rich one that is cunning and experienced but lacks humbleness and warmth.

Not sure I made myself clear.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Then you are ok with being a provider

This is just one of the retarded things that are preached here

One one hand it does not matter what she does for a living, on the other hand none of these dudes want to be providers

If you do not want to be a provider then you should date girls at your social economic level or higher

Doesn’t matter to me. I like her for her.

 

[The Duke]

Do you mind being a provider?

Everyman is a provider to some extent. Its the nature of women.

 

[Bigpapa]

Everyman is a provider to some extent. Its the nature of women.

Ok, cool

Then we all are in agreement that stupid threads about alpha vs beta and stuff like that are retarded in the best case scenario

 

[The Duke]

Ok, cool

Then we all are in agreement that stupid threads about alpha vs beta and stuff like that are retarded in the best case scenario

No, women are not so black and white. All different. They want the best of all worlds if they can get it. Good looks, alpha traits, status, money all matter but to varying degrees based on the woman. There are also women who settle for betas because he is a safer bet. The alpha guy is a threat.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Today I was at Target and this cute Latina cashier complimented me and asked for my number to go on a date. I politely declined and told her that I wasn't single. Other than that, it would have been a disaster because she works at Target. I have heard this argument from the manosphere that men do not care about a woman's socioeconomic status, but I call complete BS on that claim. I think this only applies to men that are new rich or were working class/blue collar for a good portion of their life. I am not trying to sound snobby, but there's too many life differences that would get in the way like dealing with her friends, educating her on what a 401k is, and etc. I am in no business to raise a child.

This sounds like something that someone who is trying to rationalize a lost opportunity would say.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Exactly. Socio-economic status is a lie anyway.

No to mention, if you are a successful male, the vast majority of women would be below you on the socio-economic ladder by default. I'm guessing the OP is lower-middle class (and is desperately trying to feel superior to someone).

 

[CornbreadFed]

No to mention, if you are a successful male, the vast majority of women would be below you on the socio-economic ladder by default. I'm guessing the OP is lower-middle class (and is desperately trying to feel superior to someone).

Either low effort trolling attempt or you are not the brightest one out there

 

[pipeman84]

I voted Yes.

Today I was at Target and this cute Latina cashier complimented me and asked for my number to go on a date.

How come no one commented on the above? Almost on every thread guys complain that women don't give IOIs, yet here's an example of a cute woman that directly asks out OP on a date.

Unless the girl is in Target while in school or something, we wouldn't relate to each other at all.

That sounds elitist and narrow minded to me. In the same vein, one could say that a physicist won't be able to relate unless she's also in his field, a doctor won't relate unless she's in the medical field as well and so on.

 

[BadBoy89]

If the woman is:

18-23 - the man doesn’t care
24-27 - cares 10%
28-33 - cares 25%
34-38 - cares 50%
38+ - cares 100%

When the woman is young, sexy, and fertile, her education isn’t important.
If the woman is older and menopausal, her education is important.

Everything in life depends on a woman’s youth.

 

[CornbreadFed]

That sounds elitist and narrow minded to me. In the same vein, one could say that a physicist won't be able to relate unless she's also in his field, a doctor won't relate unless she's in the medical field as well and so on.

it depends on how seriously the Physicist takes his or her career. Try dating a workaholic lawyer or doctor and you will understand what I mean for example.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Today I was at Target and this cute Latina cashier complimented me and asked for my number to go on a date. I politely declined and told her that I wasn't single. Other than that, it would have been a disaster because she works at Target. I have heard this argument from the manosphere that men do not care about a woman's socioeconomic status, but I call complete BS on that claim. I think this only applies to men that are new rich or were working class/blue collar for a good portion of their life. I am not trying to sound snobby, but there's too many life differences that would get in the way like dealing with her friends, educating her on what a 401k is, and etc. I am in no business to raise a child.

I would have gone out with her. Cute Latinas are fun. She works so that's good. Besides it's just a drink/chat and maybe a fukk, failing that maybe a cute friend, I wouldn't know anything beyond that and I try not to assign narratives to people.

 

[Bokanovsky]

No, I don't, but I'd like to nuance that the higher the disparity the more it influences the stability. With regards to socio economic backgrounds, these should at least overlap, if only slightly, if in a Venn diagram.

To put it another way, it's not the socio-economic background itself that matters but rather the values that are imparted by that background.

 

[CornbreadFed]

And how close they are to the values imparted by your background. The more overlap, the less important your background becomes because it's roughly similar. The more dissimilar it is, the more important the size of the overlap becomes.

But those values usually stem from their socio-economic status/background. That is why I included the non-applicable classes because they can relate to more than one background. I like professional sports & entertainment because they have the best examples of transitory classes in it. Notice the athletes from lower income backgrounds are more likely to date girls of lower income backgrounds while athletes from middle class or higher income backgrounds stick to them or date higher. Travis Kelce and Patrick Mahomes are great examples of this, they all date or settle for women from similar economic backgrounds. Even Russell Wilson (I looked it up, so don't try lol).

 

[CornbreadFed]

That is because they are more comfortable around these women.
Just as Bruce couldn't relate to model Julianne, but is happily married to Patti.

You can see the effects of this in the dating world. The guys struggling the most with women have huge gripes with college educated careerist women. I have never had any issues with these women, but I did struggle greatly with women when I lived-in small-town America during my first job. Last, I want to add that middle class in America is pretty broad. Middle class can range from 70k to even a millionaire in some cases. So yes, even if you make 50k a year, you will share some similar values with a surgeon making 400k a year.

 

[Kotaix]

I have done this multiple times and your level of success is going to depend on whether or not the woman grew up around trash.

You can take the poorness out of the poor person by giving them money, but you can't take the trashiness out of trash.

My current gf grew up on the lower side of income but was raised by a good father and got excellent education around high income people, and we don't have problems getting along. Another ex grew up in a trashy area and she preferred to associate with trash and losers, which is one of the main reasons things never worked out.

I myself grew up middle class with good education.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

To put it another way, it's not the socio-economic background itself that matters but rather the values that are imparted by that background.

I've met people of what some may consider highly disadvantaged socio-economic backgrounds that have more honor, integrity and morals than 99% of "affluent" people. You can be very modest and still uphold good values and mores in your family.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I think we are missing the point. A person that upgraded from their socio-ecomomic class through good values, morales, and etc is considered non-applicable to the subject. I am straight up talking about a @AmsterdamAssassin the Cardiologist or Partner Accountant dating a random Mcdonalds register girl with no plans on leaving that situation simply because he thought she was cute.

My gf grew up poor and got a decent education/job through good morales and work ethic. Yes, we can relate to each other enough, but there's still differences we have due to our upbringing. For example, she refuses to waste food especially meat while I don't give a flying fvck about wasting food or anything. Some similarities she picked up is the value of going to college/pursuing a skilled trade, bootsraps mentality, politics(political views in each party differ based on socio-economic status like a poor democrat or republican will have a different mindset and interest than a rich democrat or republican), and etc. These pickups and drop-offs can differ from individual, but the whole point is that they retain and acquire some traits from the two respective classes.

 

[DarwinTaurus]

I don't care if she doesn't have money, what I do care about, if she is an intellectual peasant.