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article: Perspective: Where have all the good men gone?

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You’re seriously posting an article posted on a site owned by the Latter Day Saints (Mormons)? Was this done in irony?
 

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Why would any sane, masculine, college age student commit to a girl if 1. she's not a virgin and 2. they don't have a strong, soul level connection. I think that actually applies to men of any age, but the younger he his, the more claustrophobic the perspective of being tied down to the wrong woman gets.
 

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The *prolonged adolescence* that these "progressive wymyn" helped create. Women will ALWAYS find ways to deflect responsibility.
 

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Why would any sane, masculine, college age student commit to a girl if 1. she's not a virgin and 2. they don't have a strong, soul level connection. I think that actually applies to men of any age, but the younger he his, the more claustrophobic the perspective of being tied down to the wrong woman gets.
The obsessions with virgins on this board is unhealthy
 

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You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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If you're asking for a virgin that much, at least you should be every girls dream. I would like to see picture of your body, how much you weigh and how tall are you?
Guys that want virgins to that degree are afraid because they don't compare well in the bedroom to other guys and want to eliminate that by finding a woman that doesn't know that they suck in bed.
 

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If you're asking for a virgin that much, at least you should be every girls dream. I would like to see picture of your body, how much you weigh and how tall are you?
To be fair, it seems to me you are assuming this hypothetical virgin girl is a 10 on looks. Average virgin girls need some love too, bro
 
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Guys that want virgins to that degree are afraid because they don't compare well in the bedroom to other guys and want to eliminate that by finding a woman that doesn't know that they suck in bed.
It can very well be part of it, maybe on a subconcious level. There can be many reasons to prefer a virgin girl, being std free is one of them for example.
 

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If you're asking for a virgin that much, at least you should be every girls dream. I would like to see picture of your body, how much you weigh and how tall are you?
Every girl has the same dream man? Every man has the same dream girl? Can't you see in this thread alone for instance that my dream girl is the opposite of @BackInTheGame78 ? Some girls will prefer a Jason Statham look (I look similar to him), some will go for Chris Hemsworth or Zac Efron or various other looks.

Guys that want virgins to that degree are afraid because they don't compare well in the bedroom to other guys and want to eliminate that by finding a woman that doesn't know that they suck in bed.
I just said in the other thread I'd have no issue to doggy fvck Emrata although I probably have a smaller dyck than Pete Davidson and other guys she's had sex with. Yet I wouldn't marry her on the same reasoning I wouldn't pay the price of a brand new Mercedes S500 for a beaten down Toyota. For commitment the standards are much higher compared to a casual fvck.
 

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This is why I think discussing virgin women is pointless and should be forbidden. Nobody in the history of SoSuave has changed anyones mind.
 

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We all have standards, but having the criteria "virgin" above looks, personality, cooperative, values that she brings to the relationship, common interest, common goals, to me that's an ego thing, cause you'll be ignoring other red flags cause you find the "virgin" unicorn.

Now if you want a girl who is a virgin and has all of the other mentioned qualities, you're either the millionaire in the best shape possible, or a delusional guy, cause like women, you can't have it all.
I think we went over this before. Wanting a virgin for a committed relationship is not just a vanity wish, you kind of make it sound it's like wanting she has freckles or no relationship. Also, virginity is not the be all and end all, who ever said that? Certainly not me. Of course there has to be mutual physical attraction, a match in personality, life values, in other words a soul level connection.

Still, no picture, why would that be?
What's the point of it? Are you going to assess by my photo if I'm worthy of a virgin? :D
 

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Tell @Pandora about it. Like two out of every three virgins are a pain and a headache. Its like @pipeman84 said once:

"All healthy women are virgins. That doesnt mean all virgin women are healthy".
Yeh that was my qoute too but we are all on the same page. Virgins can be a pain. Guys who never had virgins idealize virgins.

Many virgins dont have relationship skills. Im not saying date a ***** but virginity is just the minimum.
 

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Yes, you minimum have to be in great shape to be asking such a "wonderful" girl, I think that's a fair assessment.
I just explained using 3 names of well known actors, all considered sex symbols, that as far as physical attractiveness goes, there's a wide variety. In the end the only assessment that matters is the one the girl makes.

Can you imagine the following scenario: I meet a girl I like, but for whatever reason she doesn't find me attractive. And then I tell her: how is that possible, can't you see that objectively speaking, (using BMI and fat/muscle ratio from a Dexa scan) I am in great shape? Plus, the user @All_Kindz_Of_Gainz from the forum Sosuave saw my photo and gave me his stamp of approval. :D :p
 

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