Slowing things down/Building tension

[Glassguy]

Just a little something that I noticed in myself recently when dealing with women. There are 2 types of women in my life:

- Potential LTR candidates
- FWBs

What I have noticed is this: The women that I cant beat away from me with a ball bat and the women that I look at LTR material are treated a little different in a specific way by me. Although I treat them EXACTLY the same when I am with them, its the time I am not with them that seems to make a world of difference in the tension and mystery.

With FWBs (I currently have 2) I literally dont care about anything. Say something wrong? Who cares. Do something they might not like? Who cares. Not that I walk around on eggshells with women who I view as a LTR candidate, but I probably come across as "More caring about the outcome" than I do with chicks that I am only going to bang.

Now....this is the important part- With a chick that I am interested in more than sexually I tend to want to know much about them. A girl I went out with recently that sort of fell off the planet after a great first date and sex, ended up still being a little hung up on her ex. No problem. But my actions didnt help me by reaching out after she started slowing/stopping her responses to me. After I knocked the ball back over the net I should have went totally radio silent.

With that being said, the primary difference in my communication/interaction with the 2 different types of women is this- I go at a very slow pace with a FWB. Sometimes I will literally go several days before messaging them back. And they always respond back to me fairly quickly. The reason is I dont care what they are doing, there really is not much more I want to find out about them as a person that I wont find out when I am there to bang them.

With a LTR candidate, I have noticed my interactions lately have been different. Of course I want to know more about them because I see myself actually investing in them. Which leads to more frequent texting, phone calls, etc. Not good.

Some women are good at pushing things along if they are really into you and I have noticed that instead of me slowing things down in my responses, not answering their calls most of the time, etc., I tend to match them and it isnt necessarily a good thing.

By not responding back quickly (sometimes days) with my FWBs it definitely builds a lot of sexual tension on their end. Will I hear back from him today? When will he respond? What is he doing? Who is he with? I know thats what is going through their head.

But with a LTR canidate I am much more transparent with my time. Which in a way is also not good. And its easy to be too available with someone that you also have high mutual interest in. But it backfires.

Women are really good at trying to move things along if they see you as a valuable guy who they want to catch. And sometimes it is very easy to go with the flow, although it generally backfires once they see that they can have you (Lets say in the first 3 months of dating).

The other thing I noticed that I was doing that was probably lessening my strength over LTR candidates is the frequency that I see them. FWBs are once a week. Twice a week if I choose. But of course when we really like a chick and want to get to know her more, we naturally want to spend more time with them. And it backfires.

I think its very important to keep things SLOW the first few months. Build tension. Make the woman crave you and miss you. That doesnt happen if you are pursuing too hard or primarily available. I have literally had woman (FWBs) message me and tell me that they are craving me and I need to get there to see them soon. And I still wait a while to respond. Sometimes the next day. And they never disappear.

If you are moving towards a woman, she doesnt have to move towards you. Even if they come on to you strong, choose to keep things slow. It also builds a lot of mystery and it will mind fvck most women if they get hooked on you. Most women certainly want what they have to work for because its more valuable. I have definitely let my guard down in this area but its time to tighten the game back up.

I know this post is a little choppy, but I am sure you will get the drift of it. Would love to hear opinions.

Happy Hunting

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I treat all my kittens like the naughty little vixens they are.

Don't overcomplicate things.

 

[soulforge]

Just a little something that I noticed in myself recently when dealing with women. There are 2 types of women in my life:

- Potential LTR candidates
- FWBs

What I have noticed is this: The women that I cant beat away from me with a ball bat and the women that I look at LTR material are treated a little different in a specific way by me. Although I treat them EXACTLY the same when I am with them, its the time I am not with them that seems to make a world of difference in the tension and mystery.

With FWBs (I currently have 2) I literally dont care about anything. Say something wrong? Who cares. Do something they might not like? Who cares. Not that I walk around on eggshells with women who I view as a LTR candidate, but I probably come across as "More caring about the outcome" than I do with chicks that I am only going to bang.

Now....this is the important part- With a chick that I am interested in more than sexually I tend to want to know much about them. A girl I went out with recently that sort of fell off the planet after a great first date and sex, ended up still being a little hung up on her ex. No problem. But my actions didnt help me by reaching out after she started slowing/stopping her responses to me. After I knocked the ball back over the net I should have went totally radio silent.

With that being said, the primary difference in my communication/interaction with the 2 different types of women is this- I go at a very slow pace with a FWB. Sometimes I will literally go several days before messaging them back. And they always respond back to me fairly quickly. The reason is I dont care what they are doing, there really is not much more I want to find out about them as a person that I wont find out when I am there to bang them.

With a LTR candidate, I have noticed my interactions lately have been different. Of course I want to know more about them because I see myself actually investing in them. Which leads to more frequent texting, phone calls, etc. Not good.

Some women are good at pushing things along if they are really into you and I have noticed that instead of me slowing things down in my responses, not answering their calls most of the time, etc., I tend to match them and it isnt necessarily a good thing.

By not responding back quickly (sometimes days) with my FWBs it definitely builds a lot of sexual tension on their end. Will I hear back from him today? When will he respond? What is he doing? Who is he with? I know thats what is going through their head.

But with a LTR canidate I am much more transparent with my time. Which in a way is also not good. And its easy to be too available with someone that you also have high mutual interest in. But it backfires.

Women are really good at trying to move things along if they see you as a valuable guy who they want to catch. And sometimes it is very easy to go with the flow, although it generally backfires once they see that they can have you (Lets say in the first 3 months of dating).

The other thing I noticed that I was doing that was probably lessening my strength over LTR candidates is the frequency that I see them. FWBs are once a week. Twice a week if I choose. But of course when we really like a chick and want to get to know her more, we naturally want to spend more time with them. And it backfires.

I think its very important to keep things SLOW the first few months. Build tension. Make the woman crave you and miss you. That doesnt happen if you are pursuing too hard or primarily available. I have literally had woman (FWBs) message me and tell me that they are craving me and I need to get there to see them soon. And I still wait a while to respond. Sometimes the next day. And they never disappear.

If you are moving towards a woman, she doesnt have to move towards you. Even if they come on to you strong, choose to keep things slow. It also builds a lot of mystery and it will mind fvck most women if they get hooked on you. Most women certainly want what they have to work for because its more valuable. I have definitely let my guard down in this area but its time to tighten the game back up.

I know this post is a little choppy, but I am sure you will get the drift of it. Would love to hear opinions.

Happy Hunting

This can easily happen if you're attraction level is high for her.

However something I tend to stick to, no matter how hot she is. And I don't really do phone calls either.

I never spend more than two days a week with her, even after 1 year into the relationship.

I will occasionally fit in a mid week meet up.. However 2-3 days a week is more than enough in the first year of dating.

I tend to leave texting to, once in the morning (she would have to do the good morning text) and I reciprocate with an afternoon text.

I get what you are saying about mirroring her text message response times etc..

I think it's best to give these chicks as little attention as possible and make them work hard for your time.. If they don't make the effort, well then you saved yourself time and heartache as it was likely medium to low interest level.

 

[member162951]

I think it's best to give these chicks as little attention as possible and make them work hard for your time.. If they don't make the effort, well then you saved yourself time and heartache as it was likely medium to low interest level.

Assuming you seek a high quality chick versus an insecure anxiety-ridden emotional basket case, why would you expect her to 'work hard for your time' if you're giving her as little attention as possible? What kind of chicks do you attract that would go for that?

Stay away from emotional messes that get turned on by that, they'll end up messing with your head and you adopting the mindset you have now which is completely f*cked up, no disrespect intended. .

Look for a girl who's into you and shows it and needs/requires you to be equally into her and show it.

None of this mirroring garbage, screw that. Exercise self-discipline and control and text when you want. A savvy woman will see right through that mirroring game anyway and laugh at it. It's a strike against you, not for you.

Confident secure men don't need to play these games, @Glassguy you know that. You're better than that.

I'm sorry things didn't work out with the last one, but don't let her dictate your frame.

Be real with women, lead with that and require them to be real with you.

If they're not, it's a next.
It's not supposed to be this complicated.

 

[Grounded eagle]

Just a little something that I noticed in myself recently when dealing with women. There are 2 types of women in my life:

- Potential LTR candidates
- FWBs

What I have noticed is this: The women that I cant beat away from me with a ball bat and the women that I look at LTR material are treated a little different in a specific way by me. Although I treat them EXACTLY the same when I am with them, its the time I am not with them that seems to make a world of difference in the tension and mystery.

With FWBs (I currently have 2) I literally dont care about anything. Say something wrong? Who cares. Do something they might not like? Who cares. Not that I walk around on eggshells with women who I view as a LTR candidate, but I probably come across as "More caring about the outcome" than I do with chicks that I am only going to bang.

Now....this is the important part- With a chick that I am interested in more than sexually I tend to want to know much about them. A girl I went out with recently that sort of fell off the planet after a great first date and sex, ended up still being a little hung up on her ex. No problem. But my actions didnt help me by reaching out after she started slowing/stopping her responses to me. After I knocked the ball back over the net I should have went totally radio silent.

With that being said, the primary difference in my communication/interaction with the 2 different types of women is this- I go at a very slow pace with a FWB. Sometimes I will literally go several days before messaging them back. And they always respond back to me fairly quickly. The reason is I dont care what they are doing, there really is not much more I want to find out about them as a person that I wont find out when I am there to bang them.

With a LTR candidate, I have noticed my interactions lately have been different. Of course I want to know more about them because I see myself actually investing in them. Which leads to more frequent texting, phone calls, etc. Not good.

Some women are good at pushing things along if they are really into you and I have noticed that instead of me slowing things down in my responses, not answering their calls most of the time, etc., I tend to match them and it isnt necessarily a good thing.

By not responding back quickly (sometimes days) with my FWBs it definitely builds a lot of sexual tension on their end. Will I hear back from him today? When will he respond? What is he doing? Who is he with? I know thats what is going through their head.

But with a LTR canidate I am much more transparent with my time. Which in a way is also not good. And its easy to be too available with someone that you also have high mutual interest in. But it backfires.

Women are really good at trying to move things along if they see you as a valuable guy who they want to catch. And sometimes it is very easy to go with the flow, although it generally backfires once they see that they can have you (Lets say in the first 3 months of dating).

The other thing I noticed that I was doing that was probably lessening my strength over LTR candidates is the frequency that I see them. FWBs are once a week. Twice a week if I choose. But of course when we really like a chick and want to get to know her more, we naturally want to spend more time with them. And it backfires.

I think its very important to keep things SLOW the first few months. Build tension. Make the woman crave you and miss you. That doesnt happen if you are pursuing too hard or primarily available. I have literally had woman (FWBs) message me and tell me that they are craving me and I need to get there to see them soon. And I still wait a while to respond. Sometimes the next day. And they never disappear.

If you are moving towards a woman, she doesnt have to move towards you. Even if they come on to you strong, choose to keep things slow. It also builds a lot of mystery and it will mind fvck most women if they get hooked on you. Most women certainly want what they have to work for because its more valuable. I have definitely let my guard down in this area but its time to tighten the game back up.

I know this post is a little choppy, but I am sure you will get the drift of it. Would love to hear opinions.

Happy Hunting

Great post. I needed to hear this as I am presently in a similar situation,met someone new,1st date went great with sex followed by a cooling off.It’s been a few weeks since then at this juncture,I’d honestly kinda been busy,but I probably ought to hit her up,having given her the time and space to miss me.

 

[soulforge]

Assuming you seek a high quality chick versus an insecure anxiety-ridden emotional basket case, why would you expect her to 'work hard for your time' if you're giving her as little attention as possible? What kind of chicks do you attract that would go for that?

Stay away from emotional messes that get turned on by that, they'll end up messing with your head and you adopting the mindset you have now which is completely f*cked up, no disrespect intended. .

Look for a girl who's into you and shows it and needs/requires you to be equally into her and show it.

None of this mirroring garbage, screw that. Exercise self-discipline and control and text when you want. A savvy woman will see right through that mirroring game anyway and laugh at it. It's a strike against you, not for you.

Confident secure men don't need to play these games, @Glassguy you know that. You're better than that.

I'm sorry things didn't work out with the last one, but don't let her dictate your frame.

Be real with women, lead with that and require them to be real with you.

If they're not, it's a next.
It's not supposed to be this complicated.

Assuming you seek a high quality chick versus an insecure anxiety-ridden emotional basket case, why would you expect her to 'work hard for your time' if you're giving her as little attention as possible? What kind of chicks do you attract that would go for that?

Stay away from emotional messes that get turned on by that, they'll end up messing with your head and you adopting the mindset you have now which is completely f*cked up, no disrespect intended. .

Look for a girl who's into you and shows it and needs/requires you to be equally into her and show it.

None of this mirroring garbage, screw that. Exercise self-discipline and control and text when you want. A savvy woman will see right through that mirroring game anyway and laugh at it. It's a strike against you, not for you.

Confident secure men don't need to play these games, @Glassguy you know that. You're better than that.

I'm sorry things didn't work out with the last one, but don't let her dictate your frame.

Be real with women, lead with that and require them to be real with you.

If they're not, it's a next.
It's not supposed to be this complicated.

This is all well and good on paper and sounds nice. "Look for a sane quality girl"

Even the nicest and most sane girl will discard you like dog chit on her shoes, if you make yourself too easily available.

Most chicks fall in "love with" you in those moments when she doesn't know where she stands with you, in those moments when she hasn't heard from you in 8 hours, and her entire thoughts are bent on you.

Your time and attention is currency as a man.. Why give it away so easily and freely.

Absolutely make her work for your time and attention.


It's not a game, it's just female nature.

Anything that is too easily available is never respected.

 

[member162951]

Anything that is too easily available is never respected.

I agree with this^ (to an extent) but trust me SHE is thinking the same thing about herself.

That if she becomes too easily available and chases especially when she's getting so little attention from you, you will lose respect for her.

It goes both ways.

Smart secure quality women know this, ask @BeExcellent if you don't believe me.

 

[soulforge]

I agree with this^ (to an extent) but trust me SHE is thinking the same thing about herself.

That if she becomes too easily available and chases especially when she's getting so little attention from you, you will lose respect for her.

It goes both ways.

Smart secure quality women know this, ask @BeExcellent if you don't believe me.

This is not my experience and many many other men's experience.

I'm not suggesting disappearing for days on end, or intentionally taking 16 hours to reply back to her.

We are not suggesting extremes here.

In order for her to see you as the prize, she has to feel like you're purpose, hobbies, fitness take priority over her.

Your time/attention must to some degree be scarce.

Scarcity is valued.. Anything that is available in abundance is taken for granted.

 

[member162951]

This is not my experience and many many other men's experience.

I'm not suggesting disappearing for days on end, or intentionally taking 16 hours to reply back to her.

We are not suggesting extremes here.

In order for her to see you as the prize, she has to feel like you're purpose, hobbies, fitness take priority over her.

Your time/attention must to some degree be scarce.

Scarcity is valued.. Anything that is available in abundance is taken for granted.

I agree with this^. My response was to @Dr.Suave who said give her as little attention as possible but yet expect her to work hard for your time, which to me sounded extreme.

But what your wrote, absolutely agree.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I do not agree with this OP. You need to treat the broads all the same. The ones that want to be your girlfriend will make it known. Usually quickly.

 

[soulforge]

I agree with this^. My response was to @Dr.Suave who said give her as little attention as possible but yet expect her to work hard for your time, which to me sounded extreme.

But what your wrote, absolutely agree.

Women are the Gatekeepers to sex.. Do they make us men work hard in order to get that sex? Absolutely fvking yes!

Men are the Gatekeepers to relationships.. Should we make them work hard for that title of relationship? Absolutely fvking yes!

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I just go with the flow, I haven't got time to worry about what some strange woman is doing

 

[Black Widow Void]

Assuming you seek a high quality chick versus an insecure anxiety-ridden emotional basket case, why would you expect her to 'work hard for your time' if you're giving her as little attention as possible? What kind of chicks do you attract that would go for that?

Stay away from emotional messes that get turned on by that, they'll end up messing with your head and you adopting the mindset you have now which is completely f*cked up, no disrespect intended. .

Look for a girl who's into you and shows it and needs/requires you to be equally into her and show it.

None of this mirroring garbage, screw that. Exercise self-discipline and control and text when you want. A savvy woman will see right through that mirroring game anyway and laugh at it. It's a strike against you, not for you.

Confident secure men don't need to play these games, @Glassguy you know that. You're better than that.

I'm sorry things didn't work out with the last one, but don't let her dictate your frame.

Be real with women, lead with that and require them to be real with you.

If they're not, it's a next.
It's not supposed to be this complicated.

I can understand why you (and others) might share this perspective, but there's more to it than meets the eye. It's really not about "playing games" ... it's actually about leveling the playing field.

Sure... in an ideal world, we could just act on impulse and tell a girl how we're really feeling (the ones we like beyond the bedroom) and call her on a whim etc... Unfortunately, psychology (and this isn't just limited to females) will give you the opposite result that you hoped for.

Some of you may think that I'm making a sexist and/or blanketed statement. I'm not. I'm simply going to explain some psychology.

Those of you that have some experience have certainly encountered this: You're in a relationship and then 'suddenly' you're now getting more attention from the opposite sex or some gal that didn't notice you before is now paying attention to you. You think to yourself... "just my luck... why is this happening when I'm already taken." The reason is simple; you are (likely on a subconscious level) projecting a different persona than when you were single. In other words, you're in a relationship and so you really don't care (in 'that' way) what an outside female is thinking. In other words, you do not appear invested (or prematurely invested) and this is a trait that women will find more attractive.

The above isn't being sexist. It's simply psychology. Here's another example:
Two kids have their eye on a special expensive bicycle. One kid has parents that buy him everything. He gets the bike the next day. The other kid ends up having to do odd jobs around the neighborhood. Instead of hanging out with friends or playing video games, or spending money ... he made sacrifices to get the same bicycle. Unlike the other kid, it took him two months to earn the cash. Now.... Which kid is likely to take better care and value his bicycle? I'm sure that you know the answer. It's the same principle as we get older and start forming relationships. You can be the "bike" that the spoiled kid will take for granted...or you can be the "bike" that will be valued; because it took some effort to achieve.

My mistakes are not isolated incidents. @Glassguy (just like myself and many others) speak from experience. Even to this day (and I'm old,I tell ya) I will still find myself occasionally thinking ..."yeah, but this girl is different". This is a mistake. It's not about the sexes. It's psychology. Even the most humble, transparent and 'normal' female can turn into a smug and smarmy being... if we 'feed' that side of her (we drop our guard too quickly etc... ). This isn't about women that are 'damaged goods.' This applies to any woman that is not desperate for a man. I wish that it wasn't this way, but anyone with experience and enough trial and error will tell you ... it is.

 

[member162951]

You're in a relationship and then 'suddenly' you're now getting more attention from the opposite sex or some gal that didn't notice you before is now paying attention to you. You think to yourself... "just my luck... why is this happening when I'm already taken." The reason is simple; you are (likely on a subconscious level) projecting a different persona than when you were single. In other words, you're in a relationship and so you really don't care (in 'that' way) what an outside female is thinking. In other words, you do not appear invested (or prematurely invested) and this is a trait that women will find more attractive.

I understand this^, and agree. And I never suggested a man should drop his guard or become too easily available.

It goes back to what @soulforge wrote about scarcity. The less invested/interested you appear to be, the more attractive you become. 100% agree and has been true in my life.

However, if/when you are interested in a particular girl and you sense it's mutual, you should show at least some interest, otherwise a quality girl with abundance herself is gonna look for attention elsewhere, from a man who IS interested. Not overly so where he's falling all over himself, or dropping his guard. I agree, that is definitely the wrong approach.

Exercise self-discipline and self-control, still be a man with a purpose, hobbies, fitness, etc.

It's about maintaining a balance between showing interest and having a purpose and not giving more than you're receiving.

I think what @soulforge wrote earlier about expecting her to "work hard for it" (i.e chase you) when receiving little to no attention is the wrong approach with a quality girl with options of her own and abundance.
That said, if that approach works for you with such women, then fair enough.

Not my experience.

 

[BeExcellent]

Hmmmm. I agree with @Black Widow Void on this. Comments in detail tomorrow….

 

[BadBoy89]

Just a little something that I noticed in myself recently when dealing with women. There are 2 types of women in my life:

- Potential LTR candidates
- FWBs

What I have noticed is this: The women that I cant beat away from me with a ball bat and the women that I look at LTR material are treated a little different in a specific way by me. Although I treat them EXACTLY the same when I am with them, its the time I am not with them that seems to make a world of difference in the tension and mystery.

With FWBs (I currently have 2) I literally dont care about anything. Say something wrong? Who cares. Do something they might not like? Who cares. Not that I walk around on eggshells with women who I view as a LTR candidate, but I probably come across as "More caring about the outcome" than I do with chicks that I am only going to bang.

Now....this is the important part- With a chick that I am interested in more than sexually I tend to want to know much about them. A girl I went out with recently that sort of fell off the planet after a great first date and sex, ended up still being a little hung up on her ex. No problem. But my actions didnt help me by reaching out after she started slowing/stopping her responses to me. After I knocked the ball back over the net I should have went totally radio silent.

With that being said, the primary difference in my communication/interaction with the 2 different types of women is this- I go at a very slow pace with a FWB. Sometimes I will literally go several days before messaging them back. And they always respond back to me fairly quickly. The reason is I dont care what they are doing, there really is not much more I want to find out about them as a person that I wont find out when I am there to bang them.

With a LTR candidate, I have noticed my interactions lately have been different. Of course I want to know more about them because I see myself actually investing in them. Which leads to more frequent texting, phone calls, etc. Not good.

Some women are good at pushing things along if they are really into you and I have noticed that instead of me slowing things down in my responses, not answering their calls most of the time, etc., I tend to match them and it isnt necessarily a good thing.

By not responding back quickly (sometimes days) with my FWBs it definitely builds a lot of sexual tension on their end. Will I hear back from him today? When will he respond? What is he doing? Who is he with? I know thats what is going through their head.

But with a LTR canidate I am much more transparent with my time. Which in a way is also not good. And its easy to be too available with someone that you also have high mutual interest in. But it backfires.

Women are really good at trying to move things along if they see you as a valuable guy who they want to catch. And sometimes it is very easy to go with the flow, although it generally backfires once they see that they can have you (Lets say in the first 3 months of dating).

The other thing I noticed that I was doing that was probably lessening my strength over LTR candidates is the frequency that I see them. FWBs are once a week. Twice a week if I choose. But of course when we really like a chick and want to get to know her more, we naturally want to spend more time with them. And it backfires.

I think its very important to keep things SLOW the first few months. Build tension. Make the woman crave you and miss you. That doesnt happen if you are pursuing too hard or primarily available. I have literally had woman (FWBs) message me and tell me that they are craving me and I need to get there to see them soon. And I still wait a while to respond. Sometimes the next day. And they never disappear.

If you are moving towards a woman, she doesnt have to move towards you. Even if they come on to you strong, choose to keep things slow. It also builds a lot of mystery and it will mind fvck most women if they get hooked on you. Most women certainly want what they have to work for because its more valuable. I have definitely let my guard down in this area but its time to tighten the game back up.

I know this post is a little choppy, but I am sure you will get the drift of it. Would love to hear opinions.

Happy Hunting

So with a hooker you don't care how you act, but with a woman who you may bring home to mom you are more careful?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Women are the Gatekeepers to sex.. Do they make us men work hard in order to get that sex? Absolutely fvking yes!

Men are the Gatekeepers to relationships.. Should we make them work hard for that title of relationship? Absolutely fvking yes!

No. I'm the gatekeeper to both the sex and the relationships. Because if they don't want to have sex, there's another kitten who does.
And they can share me, but they cannot have me. If that bothers them, that's too bad. They know where to find the door.

 

[BeExcellent]

As noted by @JoyDivision1990 a quality girl with high self esteem and options is going to move on quickly if the man doesn’t make an effort & show investment.

Why? She knows her value and she expects men who are interested to invest by making their interest known. This quality girl however is also responding when a guy contacts her if she likes him.

If a girl ghosts, cools off, backs away or otherwise is incongruous in her responsiveness there is something else going on. It could be a million things but high probabilities include the following:

1. There is another man in the picture in some way, shape or form.
2. She is insecure or lacks self confidence.
3. She is damaged and doesn’t feel she is worthy of a healthy relationship.
4. She has low interest but wasn’t going to tell you
5. Something you said/did was off putting or a turn off.
6. Her life situation doesn’t match with yours.

The above are common examples of why it happens.

Treat all girls the same until they show you they are deserving of greater consideration. You cannot know who deserves greater consideration until sometime well into the interaction. People can wear a convincing facade for a while. Let the facade drop. That takes time & some familiarity.

 

[Glassguy]

So with a hooker you don't care how you act, but with a woman who you may bring home to mom you are more careful?

My mother passed away a few years ago, so that doesnt apply.

Point of my post being, its easy to treat someone differently (letting things move to quickly, response time too fast back to her, over texting, etc) if the woman is someone that you are more interested in than just sex.

And unlike some on the forum, I dont do hookers.

 

[Glassguy]

My mistakes are not isolated incidents. @Glassguy (just like myself and many others) speak from experience. Even to this day (and I'm old,I tell ya) I will still find myself occasionally thinking ..."yeah, but this girl is different". This is a mistake. It's not about the sexes. It's psychology. Even the most humble, transparent and 'normal' female can turn into a smug and smarmy being... if we 'feed' that side of her (we drop our guard too quickly etc... ). This isn't about women that are 'damaged goods.' This applies to any woman that is not desperate for a man. I wish that it wasn't this way, but anyone with experience and enough trial and error will tell you ... it is.

100% agree. I have seen the warmest, sweetest women turn into a totally different animal under certain circumstances.