Still a loser at 38

[anonymous12345]

OP: how tall r u? That could be ur problem.

Yes, this is a contributing factor. I'm 170 cm/5'7. I on a daily basis see the height advantage in play, from a girl cuddling up to her tall man in the sofa, to a girl gaping in astonishment when a tall guy runs game. Height has a natural domination that they respond to, which means they're a high likelihood of being yes girls.

So, it's a disadvantage. But one /can/ compensate for it. By other SMV or being really good at game.

This post is pretty good for those who think they're in deep sh1t. I get age-cucked and height-cucked. This guy gets brown-cucked, but fights through it:

Entering the Crucible of Game: MakingAComeback’s Week in NYC

Pancake’s note: I have been helping MakingAComeback with his Game journey for about a year and a half. He is the author of the most-viewed log on the KYIL forums, where he details his experie…

pancakemouse.wordpress.com

 

[Supreme Solar Wolf]

So, it's a disadvantage. But one /can/ compensate for it. By other SMV or being really good at game.

Nonsense. Looks >>>>>game. U could try heightmaxxing surgery, but that's it. Get used to ur life. That's all there is.

 

[MtmVaott]

Yes, you need to go to surgery and artificially increase your height.

I did it too. My new look:

 

[Manure Spherian]

Indeed. When I feel very attracted or I read that the situation is promising, then I fold.

Why did you approach women you weren’t attracted to?

 

[anonymous12345]

Why did you approach women you weren’t attracted to?

Well, the post says "When I feel very attracted". I don't have to be "very attracted", "attracted" is ok.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Well, the post says "When I feel very attracted". I don't have to be "very attracted", "attracted" is ok.

Were there any good results from any of the thousand approaches you’ve done?

 

[Blacksheep]

It’s spectacular, I still can’t approach — when it counts — at an age of 38. I’ve read all the central books on game, done over a thousand approaches during one year, read plenty of SS, got a great network IRL of casanovas, and got above average SMV (beyond these game skills), but still chicken out when it counts. Has anyone managed to crawl out of a situation similar to mine?

When the girl/situation is really good, I chicken out. It’s a wimp. It’s that simple.

Arent you complicating something too simple?

What works well for me is basically these two points:

- On a party I just see some girl I feel attracted, and just came to her say hi, ask her name and say that I found her good looking and would like to kiss her. Any other conversation is just natural. It works better than worrying on what to say or the best approach. Simple and direct to the point. I have a good success rate on that.

- On social media, I do basically the same. Say hi, and that I found her interesting or good looking and then just follow the flow of the conversation. If she is interested, it will be easy, when someone is too cold I just next.

The thing I learned with that is when you are direct to the point it seems to give some confidence or women enjoy that you are not making too much effort to impress. You just say what you want without games.

And I dont drink alcohol to approach on parties. I just go and talk.

And of course, taking care of your body and appearance. It makes a big difference.

One more tip, try to retain for 6 days before going out. It seems it makes you more hungry for sex, then its easier to approach directly. Im not saying about doing semen retention like some guys say. Just not masturbating for that period make you more horny, so its easier to get that courage.

Anyways, thats what works for me. Maybe it help you.

 

[anonymous12345]

Were there any good results from any of the thousand approaches you’ve done?

No, extremely few results so far. Tinder doesn't work at all for me, cold approach is unfortunately my best bet.

 

[Manure Spherian]

extremely few results

All you need is a few. What were these few results? Dates? Girlfriends? Sex?

 

[anonymous12345]

Arent you complicating something too simple?

What works well for me is basically these two points:

- On a party I just see some girl I feel attracted, and just came to her say hi, ask her name and say that I found her good looking and would like to kiss her. Any other conversation is just natural. It works better than worrying on what to say or the best approach. Simple and direct to the point. I have a good success rate on that.

- On social media, I do basically the same. Say hi, and that I found her interesting or good looking and then just follow the flow of the conversation. If she is interested, it will be easy, when someone is too cold I just next.

The thing I learned with that is when you are direct to the point it seems to give some confidence or women enjoy that you are not making too much effort to impress. You just say what you want without games.

That candidness/directness sounds good, gonna copy.

And I dont drink alcohol to approach on parties. I just go and talk.

Same here. I drink socially, but not to "strengthen" me.

One more tip, try to retain for 6 days before going out. It seems it makes you more hungry for sex, then its easier to approach directly. Im not saying about doing semen retention like some guys say. Just not masturbating for that period make you more horny, so its easier to get that courage.

Do that. Maybe a relapse once a week, when cognitive dissonance/stress have been high.

Anyways, thats what works for me. Maybe it help you.

Thanks. I took a general perspective on my game:

Improving my game

I need a general direction on what to do with my game. Tinder doesn’t work for me. I’ve swiped wrongly and with a poor profile, so, from my research, my profile has a poor rating/far down the stack. The matches/dates are hopeless. My idea is to start a new profile with a new phone, but it...

www.sosuave.net

 

[anonymous12345]

All you need is a few. What were these few results? Dates? Girlfriends? Sex?

During the last year's 1000 approaches or so, 3 sech closes and in total about 5 dates. I do 3-5 approaches per day as I move around, more on weekends.

 

[SW15]

You say that you've done 1,000 approaches in one year. That is approaching. Why do you claim you can't approach?

He can't when it counts, in other words when he's actually attracted to the woman he wants to approach. I'm guessing the 1000 approaches were women he weren't attracted to.

When I feel very attracted or I read that the situation is promising, then I fold.

You have approach anxiety. One of the best cures for approach anxiety is a no porn and no masturbation lifestyle. It will make you horny and you will be able to approach more easily.

You could memorize a few standard openers that you can deliver without thinking. Roosh used a standard nightlife venue opener. He shared that opener in the book "Bang" and that became my standard nightlife opener. Daygame openers are a little easier for me. I open with a observation and try to engage in conversation. Most of my approaches do fizzle out in 30-60 seconds though.