Aaron Clarey: Women Would Choose Extinction Over Beta Males

[GoodMan32]

Most guys in relationships are blue pill, average frustrated chump, beta males.

They got into relationships often on the strength of their social circles or by swiping a lot and dating down (or equal at best).

If they had to swipe to get a relationship, it was a more labor-intensive effort.

Dating down indeed. I'm a good-looking skinny guy. Yet I've dated some fatties, as well as some super strange broads (sometimes they were a double whammy: Fat and super strange).

Based on looks alone, I should be dating women who are 8 out of 10 on the looks scale. However, being a socially awkward guy with no car, hardly any social circle, an income below 40k, as well as various mental illnesses, I'm lucky to get a 3 out of 10.

 

[SW15]

Dating down indeed. I'm a good-looking skinny guy. Yet I've dated some fatties, as well as some super strange broads (sometimes they were a double whammy: Fat and super strange).

Based on looks alone, I should be dating women who are 8 out of 10 on the looks scale. However, being a socially awkward guy with no car, hardly any social circle, an income below 40k, as well as various mental illnesses, I'm lucky to get a 3 out of 10.

Let's say that you are an 8 of 10 in looks. That's good.

You can be an 8/10 in looks with low income and no car and get attractive women. If you had a motorcycle (which is cheaper than a car), 8/10 looks, and were broke, that's a niche that works. The big problem with you is that you are socially awkward + very much broke.

I have been in 4 threesomes and they are overrated IMHO.

Why do you think the threesome is overrated?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I have been in 4 threesomes and they are overrated IMHO.

Yeah man but it’s different when it’s with 3 women, not guys like your’s!

 

[GoodMan32]

Let's say that you are an 8 of 10 in looks. That's good.

You can be an 8/10 in looks with low income and no car and get attractive women. If you had a motorcycle (which is cheaper than a car), 8/10 looks, and were broke, that's a niche that works. The big problem with you is that you are socially awkward + very much broke.



Why do you think the threesome is overrated?

One thing I should mention: I have more in savings than you'd expect for a guy with my income. If that makes a difference.

 

[Solomon]

The stereotype of the clingy woman is not applicable for most men. Most normie range men do not experience female clinginess at all.

Pro athletes and some other top tier men are more likely to experience female clinginess.

Getting a threesome is easier for a pro athlete or another kind of top tier man. Normies are often less concerned about getting threesome though some normies desire them.

Which proves my point, guys who do well with women have complaints but not complaints that the average red piller or man has.
Athletes, famous people, and even top-tier Chads/Tyrones have a different reality when it comes to women and dating. This is why you see a guy like Mike Rashid who can't relate to stuff like this cause his life experiences with women are just different compared to most men

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Everything makes sense now lol. Op, you are an incel. That is your major problem with women. You need some incel rehab.

What makes you think I’m an incel? Right now I’m actually choosing not to have sex again until after I get a vasectomy. I’ve realized I’m not comfortable having sex unless I’m sterilized. Every time I had sex in the past I was so scared of getting a woman pregnant, and unless I have a vasectomy sex is not worth the risk. So if anything I’m a volcel right now.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Why do you think the threesome is overrated?

Too many things going on at once, unable to truly focus on the either girl.

Yeah man but it’s different when it’s with 3 women, not guys like your’s!

I would never have a threesome with 2 guys and one girl lol.

 

[The Duke]

The main problem I have is that I'm completely dependent on apps to meet women, and over the years I've gotten diminishing returns from them so the quality and quantity of matches I get is far less than like 2017/18. I've detailed my experience with this in other threads

Better pics get better girls with OLD.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Better pics get better girls with OLD.

What do I need to do, get pics professionally taken? On my profile rn I got a nice pic of me in a suit and I thought it would help get matches but it's made no difference. That pic wasn't professionally done tho

 

[Serenity]

Didn't watch the video FYI.

Easy to say they'd choose extinction when there's a lot of options, but if every single man on the planet was a beta there would still be plenty of reproduction occurring. Women, like anyone else will compare their own experiences, meaning what's considered an alpha male is relative. Their best beta is an alpha.

Alpha and beta and whatever else category is NOT something objectively definable, there's no sharp lines anywhere. The lines are drawn from personal experiences and judgements, it's purely subjective. That's why it's a discussion topic we will NEVER get to the bottom of, they're fluid abstract concepts that change with the times.

It's just a layer of obfuscation above our natural programming to seek reproduction, as life does. It's going to happen no matter the culture. Any woman saying they'd rather go extinct than to go with a beta male is in denial, they wouldn't really if their life experiences and options were limited to that.

This is just a stupid topic...

 

[The Duke]

What do I need to do, get pics professionally taken? On my profile rn I got a nice pic of me in a suit and I thought it would help get matches but it's made no difference

Get them rated on photofeeler.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Get them rated on photofeeler.

I have an account on photofeeler, I'll do that

 

[SW15]

I have an account on photofeeler, I'll do that

It'd be good to know how you rate on Photofeeler.

 

[MatureDJ]

Dating down indeed. I'm a good-looking skinny guy. Yet I've dated some fatties, as well as some super strange broads (sometimes they were a double whammy: Fat and super strange).

Based on looks alone, I should be dating women who are 8 out of 10 on the looks scale. However, being a socially awkward guy with no car, hardly any social circle, an income below 40k, as well as various mental illnesses, I'm lucky to get a 3 out of 10.

It's OVER for SociallyAwkwardNoCarNoSocialCircleSub$40KMentalCels

 

[MatureDJ]

What do I need to do, get pics professionally taken? On my profile rn I got a nice pic of me in a suit and I thought it would help get matches but it's made no difference

It's OVER for ProfessionalPhotoSuitCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

What makes you think I’m an incel? Right now I’m actually choosing not to have sex again until after I get a vasectomy. I’ve realized I’m not comfortable having sex unless I’m sterilized. Every time I had sex in the past I was so scared of getting a woman pregnant, and unless I have a vasectomy sex is not worth the risk. So if anything I’m a volcel right now.

You sound like a TFL-in-denial MGTOW - i.e., "I'm choosing not to have sex again". Like you would be having so much sex were it not for that choice.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

You sound like a TFL-in-denial MGTOW - i.e., "I'm choosing not to have sex again". Like you would be having so much sex were it not for that choice.

Well once I get a vasectomy at least I'll never have to worry about accidental pregnancy again, and I'll be far more likely to have sex with any women I do meet even if those opportunities are few and far between. No woman is worth risking a pregnancy scare over

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The Nile ain’t just a river in Egypt…

 

[SW15]

Well once I get a vasectomy at least I'll never have to worry about accidental pregnancy again, and I'll be far more likely to have sex with any women I do meet even if those opportunities are few and far between. No woman is worth risking a pregnancy scare over

You have an irrational fear of accidental pregnancy based upon a faulty comprehension of statistics and mathematics about causing pregnancy. Wear a condom. Most of the women you'll have sex with at your age will be under 25 and using some form of birth control. The combination of condoms and a woman on birth control is very effective and you don't have to waste money on a surgery. Even the use of condoms alone without a woman using birth control is effective.

 

[corrector]

Bro I'm telling you cold approach won't work for someone like me. If you knew me irl you would understand. I wish there was an alternative to cold approach that I could actually use. There's no way I'd be able to get good at something like that. I'm a natural introvert and I have a very strong sense of shame and embarrassment when I do something wrong. So that means I'd have to practically force myself to approach women, and if I mess up the embarrassment will crush me. Meeting women is supposed to be fun, and there's no way such methods would be fun and natural to me. Women don't want me to bother them like that, that's all I'd be actually doing

Exactly, your 5/10 looks does not work for daygame style cold approaching.