Suicide

[Bible_Belt]

I have access to marijuana, but it doesn't really help that much other than getting me stoned and not giving a F.

That doesn't sound all that bad. MJ is mostly thca, when lit on fire it becomes thc. But there are a lot more cannabinoids. You've probably heard of cbd. It works better as a topical when it's cbda. CBG also has a lot of potential. The minor cannabinoids are legal and don't get you high, but harder to find as a quality product. Big pharma does everything they can to shut it down, because it helps so many people.

Send me a private message if you are interested. Anything I have is yours if you want it. And there is a large community of cannabis extraction folk who specialize in making a wide variety of cannabinoid based medicines, so there's a lot of different options to try.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Suicide is a selfish act. It is also a cowardly act.

Not necessarily. Suicide is only selfish if you have people in your life who would be seriously affected by it. I don't think a man with a family should ever kill himself, for instance. But, surely there are many people who commit suicide have very few, if any people in their life who would be seriously bothered by it (homeless vets, for instance). Regardless of this point, I would argue that it's immoral or even abhorrent to insist that a miserable person "must go on living" simply because it will make others happy, especially if the people in their life are unable or unwilling to help.

People never seem to consider the alternative that their loved ones may have spent their entire life in despair, is that really any better? To add to this, I'd actually say it can be cowardly to not kill yourself. Let's take Robin Williams for instance. Personally, I think he was a hero. He was suffering from psychotic depression due to lewy body dementia, and things were only going to get worse. He took the courageous act of ending his life before he, and those around him, were seriously affected by his worsening condition. He left on his own terms and maintained his dignity and legacy. It can be cowardly to cling to a life that isn't worth living; not all lives are worth living. This obsession the west has with "life must go on" and "the sanctity of life" is absurd to me. Some people simply get dealt a ****ty hand (or many ****ty hands) in life, denying this reality and marching on seems foolish to me.

I should clarify at this point I do think suicide is only worthwhile when you've sincerely tried and exhausted all other options, and have been plagued by unrelenting despair for very long periods of time with no reprieve. I can tell you right now, there are many scenarios warrant suicide: dementia/severe brain damage, extreme bodily harm (loss of all limbs, loss of sight), a lifelong prison sentence, just to name a few.

If anyone is feeling suicidal, procastinate. Put it off until tomorrow as long as you can.

 

[cantthinkofacoolname]

Do you have a link to your story?

I'm glad you had a positive outcome. I've struggled with depression on and off most of my life, and at the worst moments, I've considered suicide.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I can tell you right now, many scenarios warrant suicide

I knew of a guy who was molested as a kid and then when he grew up, couldn't stop molesting kids himself. His rich family got him out of it twice, with lawyers and therapy. But after the third time, he knew it wasn't going to end, so he hung himself.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I knew of a guy who was molested as a kid and then when he grew up, couldn't stop molesting kids himself. His rich family got him out of it twice, with lawyers and therapy. But after the third time, he knew it wasn't going to end, so he hung himself.

That's a heroic end to a tragic tale.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Not necessarily. Suicide is only selfish if you have people in your life who would be seriously affected by it. I don't think a man with a family should ever kill himself, for instance. But, surely there are many people who commit suicide have very few, if any people in their life who would be seriously bothered by it (homeless vets, for instance). Regardless of this point, I would argue that it's immoral or even abhorrent to insist that a miserable person "must go on living" simply because it will make others happy, especially if the people in their life are unable or unwilling to help.

People never seem to consider the alternative that their loved ones may have spent their entire life in despair, is that really any better? To add to this, I'd actually say it can be cowardly to not kill yourself. Let's take Robin Williams for instance. Personally, I think he was a hero. He was suffering from psychotic depression due to lewy body dementia, and things were only going to get worse. He took the courageous act of ending his life before he, and those around him, were seriously affected by his worsening condition. He left on his own terms and maintained his dignity and legacy. It can be cowardly to cling to a life that isn't worth living; not all lives are worth living. This obsession the west has with "life must go on" and "the sanctity of life" is absurd to me. Some people simply get dealt a ****ty hand (or many ****ty hands) in life, denying this reality and marching on seems foolish to me.

I should clarify at this point I do think suicide is only worthwhile when you've sincerely tried and exhausted all other options, and have been plagued by unrelenting despair for very long periods of time with no reprieve. I can tell you right now, there are many scenarios warrant suicide: dementia/severe brain damage, extreme bodily harm (loss of all limbs, loss of sight), a lifelong prison sentence, just to name a few.

If anyone is feeling suicidal, procastinate. Put it off until tomorrow as long as you can.

I fully agree about Robin Williams. I support what he did especially after witnessing people with dementia deteriorate before my eyes.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

I knew of a guy who was molested as a kid and then when he grew up, couldn't stop molesting kids himself. His rich family got him out of it twice, with lawyers and therapy. But after the third time, he knew it wasn't going to end, so he hung himself.

He knew he was a monster and put himself down. Can't blame him either.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Not necessarily. Suicide is only selfish if you have people in your life who would be seriously affected by it. I don't think a man with a family should ever kill himself, for instance. But, surely there are many people who commit suicide have very few, if any people in their life who would be seriously bothered by it (homeless vets, for instance). Regardless of this point, I would argue that it's immoral or even abhorrent to insist that a miserable person "must go on living" simply because it will make others happy, especially if the people in their life are unable or unwilling to help.

People never seem to consider the alternative that their loved ones may have spent their entire life in despair, is that really any better? To add to this, I'd actually say it can be cowardly to not kill yourself. Let's take Robin Williams for instance. Personally, I think he was a hero. He was suffering from psychotic depression due to lewy body dementia, and things were only going to get worse. He took the courageous act of ending his life before he, and those around him, were seriously affected by his worsening condition. He left on his own terms and maintained his dignity and legacy. It can be cowardly to cling to a life that isn't worth living; not all lives are worth living. This obsession the west has with "life must go on" and "the sanctity of life" is absurd to me. Some people simply get dealt a ****ty hand (or many ****ty hands) in life, denying this reality and marching on seems foolish to me.

I should clarify at this point I do think suicide is only worthwhile when you've sincerely tried and exhausted all other options, and have been plagued by unrelenting despair for very long periods of time with no reprieve. I can tell you right now, there are many scenarios warrant suicide: dementia/severe brain damage, extreme bodily harm (loss of all limbs, loss of sight), a lifelong prison sentence, just to name a few.

If anyone is feeling suicidal, procastinate. Put it off until tomorrow as long as you can.

I take it one day at a time, but feel as though the tank is running dry. I still have a few cards left. The depression creeps up slowly and then one day you're completely enthralled by it. Anti depressants and benzomaxxing have certainly helped. I felt like complete garbage beforehand. You literally are constantly fatigued and miserable and just want it to end.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

I would argue that it's immoral or even abhorrent to insist that a miserable person "must go on living" simply because it will make others happy, especially if the people in their life are unable or unwilling to help.

This one hits deep.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

There was your problem friend.

I was taking 140mg/w once a week. Ideally you will want 70mg twice a week or every 4 days, more stable blood levels. You're perspective in life will change for the best, and your erections will be like when you have 18 years old my friend. Just forget about drugs & alcohol, give yourself 6 weeks while it get in your bloodstream, after that you can decide to do whatever you want (newsflash you'll enjoy life).

Don't forget to post it in here for other members.


I have a link in a bodybuilding forum where I talk about my story, I posted it in here and it got deleted, The Admin of this Site is like an insecure woman who doesn't like people posting links to other forums for fear of them leaving this one, I guess.

I'm getting the testosterone test on Monday and steroid injections on Wednesday. We'll see how it goes. My pain management doctor is recommending regenerative medicine if the steroid injections don't work. I'm not going to do anything crazy unless I've expended every option available to me. At least then I know I fought the good fight. I want to live more than anything. I also am still doing physical therapy although working out doesn't do much for my pain. It's storming outside right now and I'm gonna get stoned tonight before going to sleep.

 

[zekko]

Here is something that might help. Ram Dass worked with many people in horrible pain and had success helping them. He had a stroke later in life and saw it as an act of grace instead of a horrible affliction even though it left him quite impaired.

Looks like Buddhism from a cursory glance. I'm not a Buddhist, I am a Christian, but I am aware that Buddhism is specifically focused on how to deal with human pain and suffering.

Life is precious, you should appreciate the gift of having it. It's not easy it will never be.

This is the proper mindset to have. Things will be hard, but it is important to be remember to be grateful in all things. We're only here for a blink of an eye. And if things don't go your way, this too shall pass.

 

[Bigpapa]

Not necessarily. Suicide is only selfish if you have people in your life who would be seriously affected by it. I don't think a man with a family should ever kill himself, for instance. But, surely there are many people who commit suicide have very few, if any people in their life who would be seriously bothered by it (homeless vets, for instance). Regardless of this point, I would argue that it's immoral or even abhorrent to insist that a miserable person "must go on living" simply because it will make others happy, especially if the people in their life are unable or unwilling to help.

People never seem to consider the alternative that their loved ones may have spent their entire life in despair, is that really any better? To add to this, I'd actually say it can be cowardly to not kill yourself. Let's take Robin Williams for instance. Personally, I think he was a hero. He was suffering from psychotic depression due to lewy body dementia, and things were only going to get worse. He took the courageous act of ending his life before he, and those around him, were seriously affected by his worsening condition. He left on his own terms and maintained his dignity and legacy. It can be cowardly to cling to a life that isn't worth living; not all lives are worth living. This obsession the west has with "life must go on" and "the sanctity of life" is absurd to me. Some people simply get dealt a ****ty hand (or many ****ty hands) in life, denying this reality and marching on seems foolish to me.

I should clarify at this point I do think suicide is only worthwhile when you've sincerely tried and exhausted all other options, and have been plagued by unrelenting despair for very long periods of time with no reprieve. I can tell you right now, there are many scenarios warrant suicide: dementia/severe brain damage, extreme bodily harm (loss of all limbs, loss of sight), a lifelong prison sentence, just to name a few.

If anyone is feeling suicidal, procastinate. Put it off until tomorrow as long as you can.

Like 50cent would say, get rich or die trying

In the moment you commit suicide basically you admit that you are a loser

Needless to say, that is not a manly trait

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Like 50cent would say, get rich or die trying

In the moment you commit suicide basically you admit that you are a loser

Needless to say, that is not a manly trait

Should Robin Williams not have killed himself then?

 

[MatureDJ]

I have access to marijuana, but it doesn't really help that much other than getting me stoned and not giving a F. I also had opioids, but they constipated me and I could sh1t while on them.

Loperamide (Imodium) is an opioid, albiet one that has a much lower psychotropic effect; that said, there are some heroin fiends that try to get their fix from megadosing it, and get extraordinary constipation as a result.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Loperamide (Imodium) is an opioid, albiet one that has a much lower psychotropic effect; that said, there are some heroin fiends that try to get their fix from megadosing it, and get extraordinary constipation as a result.

I have prescriptions for Tramadol and Percocet, but I had to stop using them due to constipation. I had to chug a bunch of laxatives after not being after to poop for several days. I was also on Dilaudin which is similar to Morphine. I got it after my 2nd surgery trying to fix this sh1t.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Should Robin Williams not have killed himself then?

Don't waste your breath arguing with chest beaters. I'm already well off as I have 6 figures in my bank account and I didn't have to die trying to get it. I'm prepared to spare no expense in order to heal myself. I've spent well over 10K of my own money on hospital bills and therapy and that's with insurance. Nobody gives a fukk about you here unless you have money. That's the American way of healthcare. Worshipping at the alter of the almight greenback. I went to college and made my bank working in another country.

 

[Bigpapa]

Should Robin Williams not have killed himself then?

Robin Williams had dementia

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Robin Williams had dementia

Okay so that means he's not a loser then. Where do you draw the line between suicide making you a loser and not? Were Ernest Hemingway and David Foster Wallace also losers?

 

[Bigpapa]

Okay so that means he's not a loser then. Where do you draw the line between suicide making you a loser and not? Were Ernest Hemingway and David Foster Wallace also losers?

WTF is this having dementia means that you are not a loser?

Hemingway accidentally killed himself

The other guy have no idea who he is, but from what it says on Wikipedia about him I really doubt he was living the life

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

You implied it when you said Robin Williams suicide was okay because he had dementia.

Hemingway shot himself with a shotgun...