I ever enjoyed “approaching” women, though I didn’t mind if spontaneous conversation came up from social interaction or introduction.
There are a couple of issues with that line of thinking to justify approaching women without IOIs.
This is simply a misapplication of principles. It's YOUR JOB to find out if she qualifies. That means you have to BE THE MAN and LEAD the interaction, not sit around hoping she jumps through hula hoops for you.There are a couple of issues with that line of thinking to justify approaching women without IOIs.
1. Illusion of grandeur comes to mind
2. If you're really awesome, then you have standards, consequently a woman has to prove she meets those standards in order for you to interact with her. How does she do that if she's just standing there in line at the coffeehouse or walking past you in a mall?
Good jobs or places at an university have pre selection criteria. They don't waste their time trying to find out if a guy who studied art qualifies for an orthopedic surgeon position or convince a high-school dropout how great an investment banking job is. It's the same with a guy who has standards ... he doesn't just go to any woman he finds attractive based on a cursory look.
All the proof required is a situation where you actually have time to look her over and her showing she's open for interaction (IOIs). Going up to her without that doesn't show you're awesome but a man with FOMO and little standards.
Or you simply don't care and go for what you want like a real man would and aren't worried about trying to shield your ego to a level that you only approach slam dunks?Good jobs or places at an university have pre selection criteria. They don't waste their time trying to find out if a guy who studied art qualifies for an orthopedic surgeon position or convince a high-school dropout how great an investment banking job is. It's the same with a guy who has standards ... he doesn't just go to any woman he finds attractive based on a cursory look.
All the proof required is a situation where you actually have time to look her over and her showing she's open for interaction (IOIs). Going up to her without that doesn't show you're awesome but a man with FOMO and little standards.
I agree with your posts. I’ve also concluded if a man is relegated to doing cold approaches to get a woman, he did something wrong, or something went wrong for him in life. Unfortunately modern society has the latter occurring with increasing frequency.Good jobs or places at an university have pre selection criteria. They don't waste their time trying to find out if a guy who studied art qualifies for an orthopedic surgeon position or convince a high-school dropout how great an investment banking job is. It's the same with a guy who has standards ... he doesn't just go to any woman he finds attractive based on a cursory look.
All the proof required is a situation where you actually have time to look her over and her showing she's open for interaction (IOIs). Going up to her without that doesn't show you're awesome but a man with FOMO and little standards.
Problem is IOI's aren't always clear cut and will be ambiguous a large number of times. Most women aren't going to be so bold as to openly look at a guy and flash him a huge smile, letting him know it's safe to proceed. The guys that talk to women know they feel very UNCOMFORTABLE about taking on this role (being direct & initiating) and unanimously believe & will tell you it is the man's job to approach.
Do you think men of low to moderate SMV should approach stranger beautiful women?
They are already doing it anyway. There are lots of guys out there who are successful with women and don't have all advantages some guys are lucky to have. Fact of the matter is any guy worth his salt is gonna go for what he wants and not hope it pray it falls into his lap.
If they are so clear, why do you get alot of posts on here of guys misinterpreting them and getting shot down? Why do you have guys in general saying they suck at reading women's signals? Why do women also express men are poor at picking them up? These are commonly expressed things - clearly not so clear cut then.
I agree with Dr. Robert Glover, author of No More Mr. Nice Guy, a book recommended on this forum: approaching women out men’s leagues makes them look desperate. Women who are even mildly socialized are well aware of what is going on and what men they can pull. However men who want to guarantee much rejection can try as they may.
Living in a less Catholic-heavy environment than Miami would be option #2
I lived in San Diego for many years Billy P, grew up in Boston - i'm going to be honest I didn't notice much of a difference between the two (mia & san d. in terms of approach). All women largely do the same thing, it's hardwired into them. Yes, you can pick up on certain behavioral things here and there and sometimes the woman will be more forward (I know i've made posts on here with examples where the woman pretty much initiated) but there are also cases when you just have to say **** it and go for it. I don't necessarily fault guys for not being brazen enough to want to do it, but being 40 years old and having been in the game for quite a while now, i've come to realize sometimes you simply won't have a choice but to grab your balls and step over. If you see an ultra hot babe, the type you don't encounter often, you might as well take a shot. If your mentality is of someone that is willing to do whatever it takes and wants to win, rather than just watch from the sidelines, it will make sense. Some will say "But what if I get rejected?" Ok you got rejected, who cares, you'll forget it by tomorrow. At least you know you demonstrated courage and did something probably 90% of the other guys around you wished they had the balls to do. It is also not a reflection of your worth in any way, it's just one woman.Living in a less Catholic-heavy environment than Miami would be option #2
Would Socal girls insist on ambiguity? Girls in Vegas? Manhattan? Women in Houston or Scottsdale?
Perhaps, but less frequently imo.
