How do you guys pull off a SNL/One night stand from bars/nightclubs these days?

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I've done this a lot, 40/60 split of my place or theirs as they are usually closer than where my house is.

Always met them out/at a venue and had our own little adventure beforehand. Spending time, dancing, kissing, meeting each others friends, going off and doing our own thing. Sometimes getting food, sometimes another bar/club. Rarely works meeting a girl at the end of a night, you need a good 2-4 hours to work with and build something IME.

The key ingredient is sexual tension and fun, you want to engage in this from the beginning, so by the end of the night (or sooner) it's like you both don't want the night to end, both turned on, so the only other option is an uber back to bang.

It's easy/works well if you have main character vibes and bring the fun where ever you go. Alcohol helps too. The sooner you kiss/grope into the night the higher the chances. You have to create a mini relationship in the few hours you have, going to the bar together, helping her out of some distress etc and always coming across as a confident caring man, not sloppy drunk.

I reject the idea only 6s do this, most hot girls have done this before so don't kid yourselves.
 

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Nah i wouldnt unless you got it like that..not everyone does and I certainly didnt for the majority of the years i been hittin the club. Sht when i started clubbing i didnt even have a job. I had side hustles though. Cant be broke and hit the clubs.
I think stuff like that is a requirement in certain cities like Miami. If you enjoy the club environment then go for it, but I have definitely outgrown that environment.
 

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Ok but where do we have to go to meet women if not OLD, Bars n Clubs?

I too made that mistake, dancing wasn't my thing when I was younger. I had no idea how much i was hurting my chances. As I got older I took dancing lessons and grew to like it, now I am a fairly decent dancer. It really helped during the last leg of when I was actually a club goer. I would just dance up beside the woman I liked and I'd point at her feet and smile to get her attention. Then I would lean in and tell her hey nice moves, my name is Mike etc.
There are classes for club-dancing? Or did you adapt your salsa-classes?

as for as these loser ass replies, lmao.. must suck not being able to pull at bars and clubs. you wish you woulda consistently went and gained experience but most dudes have a few bad experiences and never go back :cry: . im in over a decade of experience and ths sht is like clockwork.. theres only a few places that feel like home to me and under the lights of the club is one of them
Yea most opinions are based on their success with women.
 

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Dragging women because they suck with them is lame behavior for sure but let's be real most guys hate the clubs. They are not adequately prepared to succeed in them. I'm not even talking about the money or having clout aspect, simply just the dancing part. A lot of guys spend their time standing around looking awkward and out of place. I too made that mistake, dancing wasn't my thing when I was younger. I had no idea how much i was hurting my chances. As I got older I took dancing lessons and grew to like it, now I am a fairly decent dancer. It really helped during the last leg of when I was actually a club goer. I would just dance up beside the woman I liked and I'd point at her feet and smile to get her attention. Then I would lean in and tell her hey nice moves, my name is Mike etc. Because I was very direct I was quite successful in comparison to before, was like night and day. I was doing whatever it took.
Idk man I think its just like anything else.. You like it or you don't. Theres tons of guys who love going to the clubs, but you'd only really meet them if you frequent the club alot or hang around that crowd who likes goin to the club, like lookin good, working out, being around women, etc.. When I first started, it was all the kids who were huge gym buffs that also liked goin to the club. We all watched Jersey Shore n sht and some of us had older bros who were already hittin the clubs and sht.

Its just not for everyone. Clubs aren't too different than parties or any other big social event with girls and guys.. I think people just make it seem like its this strange thing only intended for pretentious hot girls and chads.. and that couldn't be further from the truth.

And like you said, alot of it is just enjoying the moment, dancing, enjoying the music, enjoying the ambiance. I still know guys who dont dance much but have been going to the clubs for a while. They relish in just enjoying the moment, having conversations, watching everyone. They just enjoy being in the present moment.
 

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Ok but where do we have to go to meet women if not OLD, Bars n Clubs?


There are classes for club-dancing? Or did you adapt your salsa-classes?


Yea most opinions are based on their success with women.
Call me fruity, but I met one girl at a nail salon for a pedicure appointment o_O
 

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Ok but where do we have to go to meet women if not OLD, Bars n Clubs?


There are classes for club-dancing? Or did you adapt your salsa-classes?
Hey, I took classes in Salsa and Ballroom. When I settled on it my mentality was "a lot of hot spanish girls mention salsa, that's the one I am going to do. It must get chicks" (lol). What I gained from the dance school I went for a few months was confidence and rhythm that I had been lacking. Club dancing is its own thing and actually pretty basic. Most of the people you see dancing at the club have probably never taken a lesson in their life (here's the secret: the majority of people are stiff as a board and don't actually know what they are doing). Lessons therefore are actually kind of overkill but in my case it was something I had to do - without going into too much detail I just felt my lack of ability on the dance floor was seriously cramping my game and I was very unhappy about it. Once I was competent I went out to a club and purposely observed what people were doing on the dance floor and then I jumped in with them.

A simple two step is enough to get you through most of the situations you will encounter.
 

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Night game is notoriously difficult here, especially at liv.

I spend a lot of time in Wynwood. Day game is the way to go. Most recently I approached a woman at the Panther in Wynwood (I wrote about it in a thread recently). I got her number and texted her a couple of times here and there. I'm going to plan a date with her sometime later this week.

I would say your willingness to day game is a big advantage. Most guys think the only @ night is suitable. I find day time much easier and the women are more "grounded" if that makes sense.

Recently I was at Villa Azur, don't know if you ever went there. A client visited and she wanted to go somewhere to eat so we went there. I had the eye of the tiger the entire time - so much fine ass. It was very difficult to discuss work matters lolol.
Tell me about nightgame lol but tbh man, even daygame here is kinda rough. I have been doing it for a hot second and realize that women get hit on a ton here. Almost every weekend, there is a PUA doing bootcamps or a group of dudes from a PUA group just spamming the streets. Even daygame gets quite brutal in Miami and women are standoffish. I think it is the rare city where even daygame has been beat to the ground because of RSD and so many PUAs running bootcamps here.

Then again, I do have a love for that grind and it is slowly starting to pay off.
 

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Dragging women because they suck with them is lame behavior for sure but let's be real most guys hate the clubs. They are not adequately prepared to succeed in them. I'm not even talking about the money or having clout aspect, simply just the dancing part. A lot of guys spend their time standing around looking awkward and out of place. I too made that mistake, dancing wasn't my thing when I was younger. I had no idea how much i was hurting my chances. As I got older I took dancing lessons and grew to like it, now I am a fairly decent dancer. It really helped during the last leg of when I was actually a club goer. I would just dance up beside the woman I liked and I'd point at her feet and smile to get her attention. Then I would lean in and tell her hey nice moves, my name is Mike etc. Because I was very direct I was quite successful in comparison to before, was like night and day. I was doing whatever it took.
Tell me about it. Even I cannot be bothered with most of the music they play at the venues where most hot girls tend to be at. The same loud music that is either regaetton or hip hop. It is like most of the times, I need to be drunk to even enjoy that stuff or else it feels like crap.

But even club wise it is not ideal in Miami. LIV's dance floor is VIP lol.

Now that I think about it, I am not a nightclub guy. The dancing and women acting like absolute trash gets me. It is why I prefer bars to clubs.
 

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Bro must be a Miami thing and I greatly value your word since you are a local lol. TBH man, my luck has come from just going to the bars and clubs, collecting IGs and numbers, and then getting dates off of that and nothing else. I have found daygame a lot more effective than nightgame in the city. Even with nightgame, I have not had any luck at a LIV or Story (back when it was open). It was all smaller bars in Wynnwood if anything.
Bro omg stop right there, DO NOT go to LIV and Story for hookups. First off, those entry fees are ridiculous man. I used to work at Fountainebleau and would hit LIV after work: it's insane. I pulled more female guests in the restaurants lmao. You can't run any game and you're dealing with literal millionaires as competition. Wynwood is defnitely better, but Miami girls are TRASH: super hot but super impossible. Take the same girl you'd find at ladies night in Wood Tavern and put her in Aventura Mall, and you'll notice the success difference. They get hit on by SO MANY dude because it's Miami; my random hookups in Wood have been just that: random.

Miami is and isn't one of the best places to hookup. Yeah we're a party place, but those girls going out are approached so many times by the end of the night, they're feeling so much more dopamine than any sex can provide (when they're 6's at best smh). God forbid they're actually 8's and up cuz then they'll definitely be at LIV looking for that $BREAD$. And you kinda have to be swole here too, competition is somewhat wild as well.
 

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Bro omg stop right there, DO NOT go to LIV and Story for hookups. First off, those entry fees are ridiculous man. I used to work at Fountainebleau and would hit LIV after work: it's insane. I pulled more female guests in the restaurants lmao. You can't run any game and you're dealing with literal millionaires as competition. Wynwood is defnitely better, but Miami girls are TRASH: super hot but super impossible. Take the same girl you'd find at ladies night in Wood Tavern and put her in Aventura Mall, and you'll notice the success difference. They get hit on by SO MANY dude because it's Miami; my random hookups in Wood have been just that: random.

Miami is and isn't one of the best places to hookup. Yeah we're a party place, but those girls going out are approached so many times by the end of the night, they're feeling so much more dopamine than any sex can provide (when they're 6's at best smh). God forbid they're actually 8's and up cuz then they'll definitely be at LIV looking for that $BREAD$. And you kinda have to be swole here too, competition is somewhat wild as well.
Preaching to the choir here brother lol. I saw the contrast when I visited NYC back in November for a week and got 4 lays in one week. You are spot on with LIV, even the way it is laid out. However, my boys and I would just order tickets from the website a couple of weeks in advance. I just found the doormen (and that one old woman with glasses) annoying AF. They don't even have a line, just a stupid stand around and we pick you garbage!

Wynnwood has its decent spots, I have had some luck at Dirty Rabbit. However, the rest of Wynnwood is really really trashy. I mean the girls are obese and look like Gorlock the Destroyer (yall google that bro lol). I always feel weirded out walking around here.

With Miami, I have the mentality that if a dude can crack game here, he can probably slay anywhere in the world. I mean I went back to NYC for a week and just cut right through the competition like they were nothing. Miami is like a tough game training camp where your competition is all Chads of all races. I have always heard well traveled game dudes say that San Diego, LA, and Miami are America's toughest markets.

But what can I say man, I am weird. I could easily move to Chicago or NYC if I really wanted (and will eventually do so) and get 4 lays a week, post nudes on here, and celebrate. However, I guess a man like me loves being manhandled by the toughest dude in the MMA gym and coming back for a round 5. I want to keep sharpening my game and no city has tested me like Miami.

It is truly one of the toughest places to hook up.

The Latinas here can even be prudish or just flat out sketchy. That Catholic culture kickin in @BillyPilgrim
 

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I wish some of you would admit you're just not the ideal candidate for gettin pu55y instead of sh.t on the club or blame women
lmao tell me you're not in Miami without telling me you're not in Miami. It's easy to say any of us aren't "ideal candidates" without experiencing our nightlife first hand. I hope you're a rich, tall, swole stud pulling our level of 10s (our 10s are 12s+ everywhere else) yourself, please coach me sir, and I give myself somewhat of an 8, and this is chunky not swole me right now.

Not sure how any of you feel about it, but I just went back to FIU to finish my degree: Oh my god it's so free it's insane. So many 18-25 year olds, and I be in my suit bruhhhh definitely check it out
 

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Preaching to the choir here brother lol. I saw the contrast when I visited NYC back in November for a week and got 4 lays in one week. You are spot on with LIV, even the way it is laid out. However, my boys and I would just order tickets from the website a couple of weeks in advance. I just found the doormen (and that one old woman with glasses) annoying AF. They don't even have a line, just a stupid stand around and we pick you garbage!

Wynnwood has its decent spots, I have had some luck at Dirty Rabbit. However, the rest of Wynnwood is really really trashy. I mean the girls are obese and look like Gorlock the Destroyer (yall google that bro lol). I always feel weirded out walking around here.

With Miami, I have the mentality that if a dude can crack game here, he can probably slay anywhere in the world. I mean I went back to NYC for a week and just cut right through the competition like they were nothing. Miami is like a tough game training camp where your competition is all Chads of all races. I have always heard well traveled game dudes say that San Diego, LA, and Miami are America's toughest markets.

But what can I say man, I am weird. I could easily move to Chicago or NYC if I really wanted (and will eventually do so) and get 4 lays a week, post nudes on here, and celebrate. However, I guess a man like me loves being manhandled by the toughest dude in the MMA gym and coming back for a round 5. I want to keep sharpening my game and no city has tested me like Miami.

It is truly one of the toughest places to hook up.

The Latinas here can even be prudish or just flat out sketchy. That Catholic culture kickin in @BillyPilgrim
Toronto is harder than Miami.
 

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Toronto is harder than Miami.
I've seen a couple, them Canadian-Frenchies be some hotties. But culturally, I think you guys are nicer. Miami has one of the worst types of people for sure in the world: super shallow and money oriented, all about the Lambo you're (not) driving and the fancy hotels and expensive restaraunts. Of course if I was Lil Wayne in LIV (clapped him up once, ****ing godlike) I'd be heading home with 7 girls.
 

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Toronto is harder than Miami.
I used to think that way too but lots of snowbirds make their way down south. From the dudes I have known who have gamed in both cities for extensive amounts of time, they say Miami is harder. A few Toronto dudes I know even said their game improved so much in Miami to where they were cleaning up in Toronto. However, I will still agree with you as I cannot stand Toronto women.
 

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I've seen a couple, them Canadian-Frenchies be some hotties. But culturally, I think you guys are nicer. Miami has one of the worst types of people for sure in the world: super shallow and money oriented, all about the Lambo you're (not) driving and the fancy hotels and expensive restaraunts. Of course if I was Lil Wayne in LIV (clapped him up once, ****ing godlike) I'd be heading home with 7 girls.
I said Toronto, not Montreal.
 

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The girls in Miami are even like this since dam middle school lmaooo. I've grown up WITH these women and have seen their attitudes and personalities change as the years have passed. 6's be swiping right on Tinder and getting HELLA matches for free, and this girl is right in front of me I would never touch her with my (I wish lmao) 10 ft weiner. Ain't nobody gonna tell me about my city smh

I even taught my little sister how to not get gamed EVER. Mom's be teaching their daughters to hold out for Mr. Money down here, while that same mom is looking for Mr. Money Senior
 

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lmao tell me you're not in Miami without telling me you're not in Miami. It's easy to say any of us aren't "ideal candidates" without experiencing our nightlife first hand. I hope you're a rich, tall, swole stud pulling our level of 10s (our 10s are 12s+ everywhere else) yourself, please coach me sir, and I give myself somewhat of an 8, and this is chunky not swole me right now.

Not sure how any of you feel about it, but I just went back to FIU to finish my degree: Oh my god it's so free it's insane. So many 18-25 year olds, and I be in my suit bruhhhh definitely check it out
lmao man thanks for the laugh. Miami is far too easy for my crew. Most of the women you'll encounter there are tourists that are looking to have fun or latina women who are primed for a good time. We walk down south beach and pull enough women , we dont even need to go to a club.

Idk man it hink you need to travel more though. Chicago women will destroy your confidence. real quick. I've met people from all around the world , people who are well traveled, people who LIVE, EAT, SLEEP, BREATH nightlife and they tell us time and time again Chicago is one of their favorite cities in the world, but also has some of the most brutal women, despite having tons of naturally beautiful women.

I been to alot of places tho man, I like palces like Buenos Aires, Lima, -- been to places like Ibiza, Madrid, Myokonos, Dubai, etc. Dubai has some crazy women.. I mean sht, crazy beauty, crazy bodies but they're all out for $$

When you're sexually confident, theres no place that isnt easy to game in. That's all it boils down to. Wish there was a secret orsomething but theres not. The guys who are and have alwys been sexually confident always haveit easy and some of you just seem to think everything is hard.
 

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Hmm, the dude remained unphased I'll give you your credit, Sir. The beach is also superb for game. No need for money. Even if you're chopped in the face, your physique and game is what'll count.

Nice try but I doubt any Chicago girl can crush my confidence any lower than Miami has, even stayed a week with this single mom I met down here: piece of cake. But you might be right, I should take another stride through the Chicago streets, see what's up.

I like palces like Buenos Aires, Lima, -- been to places like Ibiza, Madrid, Myokonos, Dubai, etc. Dubai has some crazy women.. I mean sht, crazy beauty, crazy bodies but they're all out for $$
To be fair, all those girls come HERE to Miami to visit. Nobody goes to Chicago for anything lmao do you guys even have a beach we're like uberly concentrated crazy and shallow. Good girls come and CHANGE once they see the Lamborghinis, on the instant. Y'all have snow lmao
 

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lmao man thanks for the laugh. Miami is far too easy for my crew. Most of the women you'll encounter there are tourists that are looking to have fun or latina women who are primed for a good time. We walk down south beach and pull enough women , we dont even need to go to a club.

Idk man it hink you need to travel more though. Chicago women will destroy your confidence. real quick. I've met people from all around the world , people who are well traveled, people who LIVE, EAT, SLEEP, BREATH nightlife and they tell us time and time again Chicago is one of their favorite cities in the world, but also has some of the most brutal women, despite having tons of naturally beautiful women.

I been to alot of places tho man, I like palces like Buenos Aires, Lima, -- been to places like Ibiza, Madrid, Myokonos, Dubai, etc. Dubai has some crazy women.. I mean sht, crazy beauty, crazy bodies but they're all out for $$

When you're sexually confident, theres no place that isnt easy to game in. That's all it boils down to. Wish there was a secret orsomething but theres not. The guys who are and have alwys been sexually confident always haveit easy and some of you just seem to think everything is hard.
I find myself agreeing with you often but no sir, as someone who has friends in Chicago and has gamed in Wrigleyville and other Chicago neighborhoods, Chicago women are mountains easier than Miami women. In this rare case, I will give you the benefit of doubt but in all of my time gaming in Miami and meeting various kinds of dudes in the game community, not one has told me this city is easy for them. These are guys who are pulling 4+ girls a week in NYC, Chicago, and Vegas.

The only way your situation is plausible and the reason I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, other than the fact I like your other posts, is because:
  • You mention daygaming in Miami Beach
  • You mention tourists and Latinas
  • I am going to assume you and your crew are jacked
If that is the case, I can see this being somewhat plausible. However, that is daygame we are talking about with tourist girls.

Even with that being said, I don't even put Chicago or any northern city in the same league as Miami.

The ratios are better, the culture is more intellectually friendly, people are chubbier (which means uglier women unfortunately but also less male competition), and the Midwestern culture is 10x more friendly than Miami culture.

In fact, I had a bit of a great time in Chicago on both apps and nights out.

My only issue is that there were not as many hot girls as Miami or Chicago but the hot girls were way more approachable.
 
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