Before you consider dating a girl, make sure she does all these things.

[CornbreadFed]

Now these might not all-check out until a month after meeting her, but it shouldn’t take that long. Quit putting these Lukewarm interest girls in to LTRs and expecting them to magically turn hot. If your top option isn’t doing these, keep her on rotation until something better comes along.

1). Has sex with you within a month- Unless you are Tim Tebow.

2). Will never let a single day go by of no contact- This is a good sh1t test to do if you are questioning her interest level

3). Pays her share on dates or agrees to go on dates: Girl’s only make simps and medium interest guys the bill 100% of the time. If she’s on a date with Drake and he responds “separate bill” do you really think she’s going stop wanting to sleep with him then? Hell No!

4). Drama free during the honey moon phase- I’ve had exes that started drama at some point during the first two months and I was like should I just end this now? Guess what? I should have because it never got any better.

5). Opens up to you after sex- if you have had sex with this girl and she is still making you game her then disqualify her! You will meet her friends, family, know her secrets, etc.

6). She puts you first before her friends- High interest girls will bail on their friends and family to be around you. There will be none of this "my friend's birthday" or whatever bs. At the very least she will invite you to her friend's event or have a clear exit plan to your house afterwards.

 

[NealIRC]

1). Has sex with you within a month-

So you have to not date her for a month in order to accomplish this. Nice.

 

[pipeman84]

1). Has sex with you within a month-

That means she's not relationship material ... she's either a hoe or a troubled girl with a warped sense of what love/relationship is. She can't truly be in love with you as an unique individual within a month, so the fact she has sex doesn't reflect your SMV/DJ abilities (as PUAs and red pill gurus would have you believe) but her own issues.
It's not her 'burning desire' for you as Rollo would say, she doesn't really know YOU. It's her desire for c0ck (if she's a hoe) or her insecurities/fears (for instance fear you're going to leave her for some other girl if she doesn't put out).

 

[SW15]

4). Drama free during the honey moon phase- I’ve had exes that started drama at some point during the first two months and I was like should I just end this now? Guess what? I should have because it never got any better.

This is a really big one as this is the best phase of the relationship. The more drama free she is in the early stages, the more likely that the relationship will last longer. It doesn't mean that the relationship will last forever, but this can be a different between a 2.5 - 4 year long relationship and a 6-12 month one.

 

[soulforge]

Now these might not all-check out until a month after meeting her, but it shouldn’t take that long. Quit putting these Lukewarm interest girls in to LTRs and expecting them to magically turn hot. If your top option isn’t doing these, keep her on rotation until something better comes along.

1). Has sex with you within a month- Unless you are Tim Tebow.

2). Will never let a single day go by of no contact- This is a good sh1t test to do if you are questioning her interest level

3). Pays her share on dates or agrees to go on dates: Girl’s only make simps and medium interest guys the bill 100% of the time. If she’s on a date with Drake and he responds “separate bill” do you really think she’s going stop wanting to sleep with him then? Hell No!

4). Drama free during the honey moon phase- I’ve had exes that started drama at some point during the first two months and I was like should I just end this now? Guess what? I should have because it never got any better.

5). Opens up to you after sex- if you have had sex with this girl and she is still making you game her then disqualify her! You will meet her friends, family, know her secrets, etc.

6). She puts you first before her friends- High interest girls will bail on their friends and family to be around you. There will be none of this "my friend's birthday" or whatever bs. At the very least she will invite you to her friend's event or have a clear exit plan to your house afterwards.

I quite like that list.

 

[soulforge]

This is a really big one as this is the best phase of the relationship. The more drama free she is in the early stages, the more likely that the relationship will last longer. It doesn't mean that the relationship will last forever, but this can be a different between a 2.5 - 4 year long relationship and a 6-12 month one.

I agree man. My ex it was drama pretty much within weeks, then months and 8-9 months in, I had to drop her sexy azz.

If that drama starts early, absolutely best to Walk away. Ain't not chance you will have a long future ahead of you.

 

[SW15]

1). Has sex with you within a month- Unless you are Tim Tebow.

That means she's not relationship material ... she's either a hoe or a troubled girl with a warped sense of what love/relationship is. She can't truly be in love with you as an unique individual within a month, so the fact she has sex doesn't reflect your SMV/DJ abilities (as PUAs and red pill gurus would have you believe) but her own issues.
It's not her 'burning desire' for you as Rollo would say, she doesn't really know YOU. It's her desire for c0ck (if she's a hoe) or her insecurities/fears (for instance fear you're going to leave her for some other girl if she doesn't put out).

It's quite common for most men to have sex with a woman within a month of cold approaching her or within a month of the first date arranged from a swipe app or social media DM.

3-5 dates can typically happen within a month depending on schedules. 3-5 dates is 10+ hours with each other.

Plenty of LTRs form from sex on a 2nd or 3rd date.

Most women ditch most guys from a cold approach or a swipe app after one date with no sex. The guys who make it to 2nd and 3rd dates are rarer.

 

[pipeman84]

It's quite common for most men to have sex with a woman within a month of cold approaching her or within a month of the first date arranged from a swipe app or social media DM.

3-5 dates can typically happen within a month depending on schedules. 3-5 dates is 10+ hours with each other.

Plenty of LTRs form from sex on a 2nd or 3rd date.

Yeah, just as it is common to be physically unfit and in a mediocre relationship. Just because something is common doesn't make it normal or desirable.

 

[Westminster]

I quite like that list.

I agree. It's strong work.

 

[CornbreadFed]

To address #1 controversy, if you were given the opportunity to date your dream girl, would you postpone sex?

 

[Dr.Suave]

To address #1 controversy, if you were given the opportunity to date your dream girl, would you postpone sex?

Yes, In a heartbeat. Plenty of H0s everywhere, everyday. But to find a girl you consider a "dream girl", that is way harder to find.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yes, In a heartbeat. Plenty of H0s everywhere, everyday. But to find a girl you consider a "dream girl", that is way harder to find.

I have to respectfully call cap lol.

 

[SW15]

To address #1 controversy, if you were given the opportunity to date your dream girl, would you postpone sex?

Not more than 3-5 dates. I think I would be able to have sex within 3-5 dates with her.

 

[pipeman84]

To address #1 controversy, if you were given the opportunity to date your dream girl, would you postpone sex?

That's the wrong way of looking at it. It's not a matter of her jumping on you or you making advances, her offering no resistance and then, 3 weeks after you met, when you're both naked in the bedroom you just stop, get dressed back and say: not yet. If that happens she's not a dream girl, not for relationship anyway.

It's also not a matter of her delaying sex with YOU specifically because she wants to portray herself as relationship material when her history and her vibe are those of a hoe. Going along in that situation would only make the guy a chump.

It's a matter of her genuinely taking her time to get to know each-other and you respecting and reciprocating her decision.

 

[Dr.Suave]

I have to respectfully call cap lol.

Yes, I think I misunderstood (english is not my first language). I took it as "If you had a chance to date your dream girl, and she doesnt put out really fast, would you be willing to wait a little bit longer then usual" or somethign like that. But I think what you were asking is: "If you had a a chance yo date your dream girl, would you be the one to postpone sex?"

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yes, I think I misunderstood (english is not my first language). I took it as "If you had a chance to date your dream girl, and she doesnt put out really fast, would you be willing to wait a little bit longer then usual" or somethign like that. But I think what you were asking is: "If you had a a chance yo date your dream girl, would you be the one to postpone sex?"

yes lol. If you were in the meeting/dating stage with your dream girl and she was willing to have sex with you, would you postpone the sex or do it soon?

 

[Divorced w 3]

I wanted to roll my eyes at this thread but it’s actually really good. Nice work.

 

[Gamisch]

That's the wrong way of looking at it. It's not a matter of her jumping on you or you making advances, her offering no resistance and then, 3 weeks after you met, when you're both naked in the bedroom you just stop, get dressed back and say: not yet. If that happens she's not a dream girl, not for relationship anyway.

It's also not a matter of her delaying sex with YOU specifically because she wants to portray herself as relationship material when her history and her vibe are those of a hoe. Going along in that situation would only make the guy a chump.

It's a matter of her genuinely taking her time to get to know each-other and you respecting and reciprocating her decision.

Few problems with your thesis.

First of all modern dating is all about sparks and feelings. If there's a spark between you and her and the two of you are in one room for an extended period of time shyte WILL happen " naturally ".

I can't imagine being with a woman who ai like and vice versa, while nothing happens. So is she a 304? Or am I such a amazing don juan? Or is the truth somewhere in the middle?
Another point; recently someone made a thread saying he went on 5 dates witha woman. The general consensus is that is a lost case. So we all know that 4 /5 dates no sex as grownups...is not a good sign . It seems like it is in theory, in practice it never is.

Yes, I think I misunderstood (english is not my first language). I took it as "If you had a chance to date your dream girl, and she doesnt put out really fast, would you be willing to wait a little bit longer then usual" or somethign like that. But I think what you were asking is: "If you had a a chance yo date your dream girl, would you be the one to postpone sex?"

Well, this is why some women can have a ONS easier than a actual relationship. NSA, no feelings less drama. The bar for a ONS man is considerably lower than for a LTR man. So LTR man is frustrated his "dream girl " is a 304 for Chad Tyrone while she deliberately makes him wait to portray this good girl image.

This is how a seemingly great guy ends up lonely. He might be relationship material. And being relationship material ironically can work against a man in this modern dating environment. Really backwards.

 

[pipeman84]

First of all modern dating is all about sparks and feelings. If there's a spark between you and her and the two of you are in one room for an extended period of time shyte WILL happen " naturally ".

Well, we're not baboons in heat, we're human beings, right? We're not driven solely by sparks and feelings. If she's a healthy female, she won't put herself at the risk of pregnancy without first vetting the guy. That's the instinct in her. The more evolved, rational side of the brain will tell her that it's best to first know the guy before making herself vulnerable emotionally through sex and it's also not good for her reputation to be a 1-3 dates and sex type of girl.
On the male side, there can be all the sparks in the world, but if for instance she's the top mobster's woman, one would stay away. Unless he's Tony Montana in Scarface.

Another point; recently someone made a thread saying he went on 5 dates witha woman. The general consensus is that is a lost case. So we all know that 4 /5 dates no sex as grownups...is not a good sign .

Nah, that only means 2 things: 1. which I already mentioned, if you're treating a hoe as a lady, that doesn't mean you're a gentleman but a chump. 2. I think was the case in that thread, the woman has no interest in you and uses you for attention/free dinner

 

[RazorRambo24]

Ay a good effort thread.

1) is questionable but it might just be a lack of experience on your part.

The best chick I ever met.. Ever.. was a girl who made me wait 3 months for it. And while 3 months might sound like an insane amount of time, it was only the equivalent of 5-6 dates worth of time before she put out. Now that's fuccin healthy. Girls that put out easy are good for recreational use/fwb/plates but not good for long term material. It says something about their boundries and what they need to know about you before jus simply opening their legs.

2) With respect, this is crazy. I couldn't imagine contacting someone everyday because its just not me.. Im usually busy focused on other things than my phone. If we're not even seriously dating yet, I wouldn't expect u to contact me every single day either.

3) This is a good one. GIrls who are willing to split the bill or pay for stuff half the time have always had my respect and appreciation

4) This is probably the best one imo

5) Also a good one

6) Not sure about this one. Anyone who puts you before her own friends before you're even officially locked in/dating seriously is a red flag. Ofc i think its a vague statement and maybe with more explanation it can make sense --depending on the context of the statement.

I mean your friends are your friends.. this chick is a stranger until u really get to know her breh