No real motivation to meet/date girls anymore

[corrector]

Buying an escort for the first time is nerve-wracking.

What do you mean (ie before the session, during or after)?

Once you get in the habit of buying escorts though, it feels like you've discovered a cheat code in a video game. You no longer have to tolerate all the BS that comes with getting a woman to fornicate for free.

How often to you visit escorts? Once or twice a week/month/occasionally? Do you go after high-priced escorts (high-cost/low traffic), mid-tier level or low-level ones?

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Yeah, that part seems to be left out of the glamour of having kids.

Exactly, another reason why I won't have any. Kids have the potential to ruin relationships and marriages. In the unlikely event I get married, it can only be to a woman who also doesn't want kids

 

[BergischerLöwe]

My story is somewhat similar to the OP.

In the past 8 years, I've only had free sex once. I've had lots of sex with escorts these past 8 years, however.

Buying an escort for the first time is nerve-wracking. Once you get in the habit of buying escorts though, it feels like you've discovered a cheat code in a video game. You no longer have to tolerate all the BS that comes with getting a woman to fornicate for free.

I don't have the time/energy for a relationship anyway.

Idk if I'd try that or not but either way it's not legal anywhere near where I live

 

[GoodMan32]

What do you mean (ie before the session, during or after)?



How often to you visit escorts? Once or twice a week/month/occasionally? Do you go after high-priced escorts (high-cost/low traffic), mid-tier level or low-level ones?

As for what I mean when I say nerve-wracking, mainly the question in the back of your head "Will the escort turn out to be a cop?" As you get more experienced with escorts, you learn certain techniques to screen out stings.

You'll also probably have the question in the back of your head "Does the escort have diseases?"

Also, having sex with a woman who's only with you for money is a different experience than having sex with a woman who genuinely wants to be with you. As someone who has had both, I can speak from experience. It's hard to explain if you haven't done both.

Then after the session, you might ask yourself "Did I really just spend that much money on sex?" (As you'll be in shock because this is the first time you've paid for sex).

Once you've had sex with escorts enough times, everything I mentioned becomes less of a concern.

The frequency of how often I see escorts varies. I could go months without seeing an escort. Then there could be a month where I see an escort twice.

When I was 25, I even hired 2 escorts in one night. Another time when I was 25, I hired one escort one night then another escort the following night.

As I've gotten older, I've capped myself at twice a month.

To answer your question of whether I see high-tier, mid-tier, or low-tier, I would say mid-tier.

The absolute cheapest I've ever been with was $120. I've never been the type of guy to see $60 street-walkers.

The most expensive I've ever been with cost 2 thousand. That was for an all-nighter, however. When I think of high-tier escorts, I think of the escorts that charge a four digit price tag per hour.

I would estimate the average of all the escorts I've seen is probably $300.

 

[GoodMan32]

Idk if I'd try that or not but either way it's not legal anywhere near where I live

It's against the law where I live too. Having it outlawed works in your favor, however. When prostitution is against the law, the prices are cheaper. Nevada, where escorts are legal in certain counties, has much higher prices than what I pay.

I just told the guy in my above post that there are ways to screen out the possibility she's a cop.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

It's against the law where I live too. Having it outlawed works in your favor, however. When prostitution is against the law, the prices are cheaper. Nevada, where escorts are legal in certain counties, has much higher prices than what I pay.

I just told the guy in my above post that there are ways to screen out the possibility she's a cop.

It's legal in the country where I was born but not where I live. I think over there it's at least cheaper than NV. I'm curious, what are the ways to screen for cops? Still wouldn't do it here, I'd get too sketched out. Plus it probably isn't what I'm looking for anyway. I can go without sex, and I can sleep with mid tier women from dating apps without having to pay them (even though I don't do that anymore). More than anything what I actually want is sex but with a woman I'm really into in every way. With escorts I'd imagine it's far less personal

 

[corrector]

It's legal in the country where I was born but not where I live. I think over there it's at least cheaper than NV. I'm curious, what are the ways to screen for cops? Still wouldn't do it here, I'd get too sketched out. Plus it probably isn't what I'm looking for anyway

I'm in Canada where its also illegal in the books to buy sex, but selling sex is legal. The easiest way to screen for cops is to look at the escort's onlyfans page and client reviews. If she has an onlyfans page then you know she's real and it's not a bait and switch, plus if you are more of a fapper, you could look at her page instead of visiting her. More and more escorts are putting on onlyfans pages and adding more content, making it quite clear they are not cops.

Another way that another poster has mentioned is to go on adult dating sites, like Seeking Arrangements. I find it hard to believe that a cop would go through all of the trouble to lure someone from a dating site like that and it would really go on entrapment territory.

The worst I've got are scams where someone would claim they are a pimp and I wasted her time and ask me for money (ie texting an escort, etc...). I'd just block the number.

 

[corrector]

As for what I mean when I say nerve-wracking, mainly the question in the back of your head "Will the escort turn out to be a cop?" As you get more experienced with escorts, you learn certain techniques to screen out stings.

You'll also probably have the question in the back of your head "Does the escort have diseases?"

Also, having sex with a woman who's only with you for money is a different experience than having sex with a woman who genuinely wants to be with you. As someone who has had both, I can speak from experience. It's hard to explain if you haven't done both.

Then after the session, you might ask yourself "Did I really just spend that much money on sex?" (As you'll be in shock because this is the first time you've paid for sex).

Once you've had sex with escorts enough times, everything I mentioned becomes less of a concern.

The frequency of how often I see escorts varies. I could go months without seeing an escort. Then there could be a month where I see an escort twice.

When I was 25, I even hired 2 escorts in one night. Another time when I was 25, I hired one escort one night then another escort the following night.

As I've gotten older, I've capped myself at twice a month.

To answer your question of whether I see high-tier, mid-tier, or low-tier, I would say mid-tier.

The absolute cheapest I've ever been with was $120. I've never been the type of guy to see $60 street-walkers.

The most expensive I've ever been with cost 2 thousand. That was for an all-nighter, however. When I think of high-tier escorts, I think of the escorts that charge a four digit price tag per hour.

I would estimate the average of all the escorts I've seen is probably $300.

I too have noticed a libido change if I was to compare myself when I was in my 20s compared to today.

You are middle aged today? Do you have regrets not meeting a suitable woman for marriage and a family in pursuing this course?

 

[BergischerLöwe]

I'm in Canada where its also illegal in the books to buy sex, but selling sex is legal. The easiest way to screen for cops is to look at the escort's onlyfans page and client reviews. If she has an onlyfans page then you know she's real and it's not a bait and switch, plus if you are more of a fapper, you could look at her page instead of visiting her. More and more escorts are putting on onlyfans pages and adding more content, making it quite clear they are not cops.

Another way that another poster has mentioned is to go on adult dating sites, like Seeking Arrangements. I find it hard to believe that a cop would go through all of the trouble to lure someone from a dating site like that and it would really go on entrapment territory.

The worst I've got are scams where someone would claim they are a pimp and I wasted her time and ask me for money (ie texting an escort, etc...). I'd just block the number.

At the end of the day I still wouldn't do it, it's not really what I'm seeking

 

[corrector]

At the end of the day I still wouldn't do it, it's not really what I'm seeking

That's good. I was worried for a moment I was steering you in the wrong direction with all that crazy info. That really relieves my conscience that you will not do this. Thanks. It's against my beliefs and I suffered when I engaged this in the past 9 years ago.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

That's good. I was worried for a moment I was steering you in the wrong direction with all that crazy info. That really relieves my conscience that you will not do this. Thanks. It's against my beliefs and I suffered when I engaged this in the past 9 years ago.

I can go without sex anyway. As I said before I'm largely content just jerking off instead and it's been my choice that I haven't had sex since 2019. I want to actually meet a women I'm really compatible with and have sex with her, but I understand that the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point.

 

[GoodMan32]

It's legal in the country where I was born but not where I live. I think over there it's at least cheaper than NV. I'm curious, what are the ways to screen for cops? Still wouldn't do it here, I'd get too sketched out. Plus it probably isn't what I'm looking for anyway. I can go without sex, and I can sleep with mid tier women from dating apps without having to pay them (even though I don't do that anymore). More than anything what I actually want is sex but with a woman I'm really into in every way. With escorts I'd imagine it's far less personal

I see. My problem is I have a hard time getting laid even with women I meet on internet platforms.

It's definitely less personal with escorts. A good escort, however, will at least be a good actress (Even though, deep down, you know the escort doesn't truly desire you).

One bonus of escorts, they're more likely to engage in fetishes.

Here's how I screen for cops: I find my escorts exclusively online. I only contact an escort if she's been posting her ads for at least a week. The ads that say "In town today only" are a major red flag that she's a potential cop.

Also, I always have escorts come to me. That alone makes the chances of her being a cop plummet. A cop is highly unlikely to drive out of their way, into an unknown environment, just to make a single arrest. In the USA at least, a private home is seen as the most dangerous place for a cop (because the cop has no idea what they're walking into). Cops will use a motel room (or sometimes an apartment the police station rents) to lure as many johns as possible (thus maximizing the amount of arrests)

 

[GoodMan32]

I too have noticed a libido change if I was to compare myself when I was in my 20s compared to today.

You are middle aged today? Do you have regrets not meeting a suitable woman for marriage and a family in pursuing this course?

Not middle-aged yet. I'm in my early 30s. I might not sound a whole lot older than 25, yet my libido has definitely decreased (which is a plus in my opinion).

I don't have any regrets about not having a wife or kids. I don't want a wife or kids.

 

[GoodMan32]

I can go without sex anyway. As I said before I'm largely content just jerking off instead and it's been my choice that I haven't had sex since 2019. I want to actually meet a women I'm really compatible with and have sex with her, but I understand that the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point.

The odds of me finding a woman I'm compatible with are slim to none too. Don't get me wrong, I would be down to get with a woman I'm compatible with.

Everyone has a different alternate solution. Yours is fapping, mine is buying an escort.

 

[corrector]

I see. My problem is I have a hard time getting laid even with women I meet on internet platforms.

He is definitely not incel.

Here's how I screen for cops: I find my escorts exclusively online. I only contact an escort if she's been posting her ads for at least a week. The ads that say "In town today only" are a major red flag that she's a potential cop.

That's easy to do, especially if you look at escort ads for fapping. I know many escorts who have put their ads up for years, months, new ones on the scene, etc.... so it's pretty easy for me to guess who the cop is and who is not, lol! I'm more worried if the escort has a racist ad than if she's a cop.

 

[MatureDJ]

My story is somewhat similar to the OP.

In the past 8 years, I've only had free sex once. I've had lots of sex with escorts these past 8 years, however.

Buying an escort for the first time is nerve-wracking. Once you get in the habit of buying escorts though, it feels like you've discovered a cheat code in a video game. You no longer have to tolerate all the BS that comes with getting a woman to fornicate for free.

I don't have the time/energy for a relationship anyway.

It's OVER for FreeSexCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

As for what I mean when I say nerve-wracking, mainly the question in the back of your head "Will the escort turn out to be a cop?" As you get more experienced with escorts, you learn certain techniques to screen out stings.

You'll also probably have the question in the back of your head "Does the escort have diseases?"

Also, having sex with a woman who's only with you for money is a different experience than having sex with a woman who genuinely wants to be with you. As someone who has had both, I can speak from experience. It's hard to explain if you haven't done both.

Then after the session, you might ask yourself "Did I really just spend that much money on sex?" (As you'll be in shock because this is the first time you've paid for sex).

Once you've had sex with escorts enough times, everything I mentioned becomes less of a concern.

The frequency of how often I see escorts varies. I could go months without seeing an escort. Then there could be a month where I see an escort twice.

When I was 25, I even hired 2 escorts in one night. Another time when I was 25, I hired one escort one night then another escort the following night.

As I've gotten older, I've capped myself at twice a month.

To answer your question of whether I see high-tier, mid-tier, or low-tier, I would say mid-tier.

The absolute cheapest I've ever been with was $120. I've never been the type of guy to see $60 street-walkers.

The most expensive I've ever been with cost 2 thousand. That was for an all-nighter, however. When I think of high-tier escorts, I think of the escorts that charge a four digit price tag per hour.

I would estimate the average of all the escorts I've seen is probably $300.

If "hiring an escort" includes a gal in a red-light district window for a quickie 15 minutes, then one time I hired 8 in a 24-hour period.

 

[MatureDJ]

The absolute cheapest I've ever been with was $120. I've never been the type of guy to see $60 street-walkers.

The most expensive I've ever been with cost 2 thousand. That was for an all-nighter, however. When I think of high-tier escorts, I think of the escorts that charge a four digit price tag per hour.

I would estimate the average of all the escorts I've seen is probably $300.

I was once in place where decent white women cost $7/hr.

 

[NealIRC]

So no brothers or cousins that can introduce you to women?

 

[corrector]

I was once in place where decent white women cost $7/hr.

Was it a memorable encounter?