Sh1t tests do NOT exist

[SmoothSmooth]

all it takes is one of her toxic friends or emotional thoughts to screw up any good situation. They mess with high value men constantly. Look at the shvt Tom Brady went through for example. Why don't these rich powerful men have dime piece wives then?

because a lot of rich and powerful men don’t have high status alpha male mannerisms, they default to the female frame.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

From a purely cold approach perspective based on my own personal experience (and of gaming with various guys including chads)
I'd say it's like:

Approach a girl and she thinks you are hot enough to bang, and she's kinda interested, although you're not exactly her ideal. She will likely sh1t test you a bit, and if you don't mess it up, you'll likely get the lay

Approach a girl and say 'hi', and she knows she deffo wants to bang you. You are totally her type. She adores guys over 6ft 5 with blue eyes and tats. She doesn't sh1t test. She doesn't want to risk it and risk him getting offended or whatever and hitting on a different girl and taking her home!

Approach a hot girl and say 'hi'. YOu're not her type. You are the godfather of game, but she doesn't care since she's not attracted to you. She'll basically ignore your opener etc, will show active disinterest, will reject any attempt at flirting and touch etc. Guys wrongly think of these as 'sh1t tests' and think they can turn the ship around if they have enough 'game' to pass the tests, although they are very missguided. These weren't 'tests'. She's just not into you and it's as obvious as she can make it without being super rude and taking a different kind of risk

Bro why would a hot girl bang a guy she is ‘kinda interested’ in…she can get her type easily if she’s high smv

 

[mikedee]

Disclaimer I am a chad. 6ft 2, 6 figures. Have been doing cold approach for 13 years. I probably have had better results than 99% of this forum and most pua coaches and I’m coming with genuine advic

Fellas there’s no such thing as a sh1t test. This whole concept pedestalises women as these extremely intelligent and calculating robots looking to deceive youand getting laid as a ‘game’ where you have to pass tests etc to get the prize. It was a concept created by false PUA coaches trying to get you to buy into their courses - ‘ you got rejected because you failed her genius level tests, I would have passed it, buy my course and I’ll show you how’ (funny how none of these coaches have genuinely hot 22 year old girlfriends)

After seducing so many women I can say with certainty than any experienced player will tell you this - women reveal their attraction/disinterest through their body language. This is a fact of nature and very easy to spot once you know what to look for. If she’s disinterested it will be obvious by her body language and tone, if she’s interested it will be obvious - IF YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE to know what to look for. Therefore pick up is actually very easy because I just approach and go off the signals she gives me.

There is a small % of women who are sociopathic and play crazy games - but these are women that you need to avoid unless you want ur life to be ruined - see the hot cold behaviour as a warning not a test, run.

Think of it like this. Do women sh1t test their bosses at work? Or their favourite celebrities?

at most, you can expect a late reply or a little obstacle before getting a date - in which a woman is trying to determine if you will get needy and start acting like an AFC (average frustrated chump).
These little obstacles are usually done in a very feminine and subtle way, are very easy to notice if you have any sense of social intelligence and don’t require much thought to figure out - and usually occur after the woman has already shown you many indicators of interested - women WANT you to pass them.

Here’s the thing. Women find most men unattractive and boring by default, so if she’s attracted to you, she will be ENJOYING THE INTERACTION WITH YOU. She will make it fun and enjoyable and it will flow freely.


If she’s not being feminine and warm, it’s low interest. For whatever reason. Just talk to someone else, unless you are desperate to convince a woman to ‘settle’ for you. My interactions with women are very simple. I start a simple convo and see if she ‘bites’, if she reciprocates my energy with equal/more interest then I just let it flow. But I never give more than I receive. I don’t need to. An attracted woman will keep the convo going.

when you are in a relationship with a woman, she may do a very subtle test of your strength here and there for example getting you skip work or you diet for her to see if she has power over you, but these are when she actually is invested in dating you…not a random stranger. Women do not care that much about random strangers cold approaching them to be thinking of schemes to sh1t test them

The truth is most women in life will reject you. Even me. With 13 years experience and having banged 8s and 9s (including same day lays), and being a chad, I get rejected MOST OF THE TIME. but realise it’s never a real rejection. It’s just indifference. And a woman’s default state is gonna be indifference because there are many factors out of ur control (ie her mood, logistics availability and preferences). Most women don’t think about sex as much as we do. It’s a numbers game. Most of the HOT women are not available, they are off the market because they are quick to find a guy from early.

I'm 6.2 good looking, banged a lot of hot girls, still I get rejected most of the time. Agree with you.

 

[Gamisch]

Cap
A healthy girl wants a her prince in shining armour, any girl meeting her favourite celeb will NOT sh1t test.
She will default to creating a spark aka sexual attraction.

Sh1t test/hold cold attitude = low interest or girl with mental health problems

Yeah, that's how the movie ended. With a romantic sunset and a happy woman being with her Prince Charming.

The uncut, behind the scenes second part of the movie you never saw apparently goes a little different. Because she gets bored, finds out things that weren't so charming about him and thus she start....sh1ttesting him!

Leonardo DiCaprio stays single. Jeff Bezos got divorced. UfC alpha got cheated on. Thug rapper has an open marriage. NBA player gets divorced raped. Ect ect.

Your example is only valid as long as the honeymoon phase lasts..after that prince charming will also deal with " just " a woman who'll sh1ttest the feck outta him( unless he times his exit properly and avoids this, but i assume Prince charming is a beta bluepiller).

Take a submissive cleaning Maria out of South America home as your wife and see what happens when you tell her she is now equal to you...

 

[SmoothSmooth]

We are not kids in high school or awkward incels at a pua boot camp. If you are an attractive male with money, an adult with experience, status and accomplishments, you have SOMETHING TO OFFER. This means that women that are interested will show interest UPFRONT and be feminine from the jump, there is very little reason to sh1t test you as you are the complete product. You should only be going for high interest women that see your value and respond accordingly

 

[IKO69]

Every woman will **** test, it's in the playbook. There are varying degrees- when she has high interest (likes you) you'll still get them here and there but they'll be silly little things. As an example she might not call you back/text to see what your reaction is...as you know some guys blow up the phone - obviously this is not what you are supposed to do. Yes, it's stupid but through these games is how they get assurance that you are on point.

The one's the do it a lot are problematic and should be avoided. Something is off mentally.

 

[characternote]

Bro why would a hot girl bang a guy she is ‘kinda interested’ in…she can get her type easily if she’s high smv

i've agreed with basically all of your posts in this thread but you've lost me a bit here
You think girls only bang a guy if he is her idea of male perfection? Like a 10/10 in her eyes?
Of course she can get a hotter guy on tinder, but if she's in a bar, talking too a guy who easily passes the 'is he handsome enough to bang' test, and he's maybe making her horny etc and the mood is right, then yeah, he can get her.
I've had my fair share of hot girls at this point and i'm sure all of them could have gotten a guy more her type on tinder within 30 mins of me opening her lol

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Every woman will **** test, it's in the playbook. There are varying degrees- when she has high interest (likes you) you'll still get them here and there but they'll be silly little things. As an example she might not call you back/text to see what your reaction is...as you know some guys blow up the phone - obviously this is not what you are supposed to do. Yes, it's stupid but through these games is how they get assurance that you are on point.

The one's the do it a lot are problematic and should be avoided. Something is off mentally.

my point is that there will be a spark first. Her default will be to build and seek rapport with you. Then she might play a silly little game like forget to reply back one time. She won’t lead with testy behaviour

 

[IKO69]

my point is that there will be a spark first. Her default will be to build and seek rapport with you. Then she might play a silly little game like forget to reply back one time. She won’t lead with testy behaviour

We are in agreement brother. Once in a while is to be expected. The excessive stuff is not good - a man should have no tolerance for that & yes there are women who play a **** ton of games upfront. Some guys can't resist that stuff for whatever reason (likely have as much issues as the women).

 

[SmoothSmooth]

i've agreed with basically all of your posts in this thread but you've lost me a bit here
You think girls only bang a guy if he is her idea of male perfection? Like a 10/10 in her eyes?
Of course she can get a hotter guy on tinder, but if she's in a bar, talking too a guy who easily passes the 'is he handsome enough to bang' test, and he's maybe making her horny etc and the mood is right, then yeah, he can get her.
I've had my fair share of hot girls at this point and i'm sure all of them could have gotten a guy more her type on tinder within 30 mins of me opening her lol

not in looks but she was definitely sold on you being superior smv based on your interactions. The tinder guy may be more her type physically but doesn’t make him a catch plus we know girls don’t go for looks they go for feels and dominant behaviour too. The fact you approached her in the bar makes you more attractive for example. So she was sold on your overall attractiveness and made herself easy to seduce.

women make it easy for guys they are attracted to. It’s the man’s role to play hard to get, not the woman’s.

 

[pipeman84]

all it takes is one of her toxic friends or emotional thoughts to screw up any good situation. They mess with high value men constantly. Look at the shvt Tom Brady went through for example. Why don't these rich powerful men have dime piece wives then?

My guess is that Gisele settled for Brady, ... after at least 6 boyfriends by 26yrs old including the well known relationship with DiCaprio, one has to be naive to believe she found 'the one', 'true love' in Brady. She just settled.
And re high value men, Brady is one as far as sports is concerned, that doesn't make him a high value man regarding relationships with women. For an even starker example of discrepancy between business/money success and women success look at Jeff Bezos.

 

[Gamisch]

We are not kids in high school or awkward incels at a pua boot camp. If you are an attractive male with money, an adult with experience, status and accomplishments, you have SOMETHING TO OFFER. This means that women that are interested will show interest UPFRONT and be feminine from the jump, there is very little reason to sh1t test you as you are the complete product. You should only be going for high interest women that see your value and respond accordingly

Yeah that's what I said.

So it boils down to the venting process (again).
Unfortunately most men dont get to vent shyte. They either get chosen by the bottom if the barrel on OLD , or go for low hanging fruit via C approach.

You are right though. But most men's reality = dealing with a woman with some doubts and lukewarm interest, or lets say; a woman who thinks she can do better. From that pov a man better learns to deal with and recognize sh1ttests.

E.g you are a smv6/7 but you wanna hit this hb8. You might wanna go through the process of getting sh1ttested because the reward is a hot woman spreading her legs for you.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Disclaimer I am a chad. 6ft 2, 6 figures. Have been doing cold approach for 13 years. I probably have had better results than 99% of this forum

I am that 1%.

Fellas there’s no such thing as a sh1t test.

I will let these other guys indulge you there.

With Mode One, you don't stick around long enough to be sh!t tested by a woman.

In fact, when you go Mode One on a woman, you are sh!t testing her.

 

[characternote]

I am that 1%.



I will let these other guys indulge you there.

With Mode One, you don't stick around long enough to be sh!t tested by a woman.

In fact, when you go Mode One on a woman, you are sh!t testing her.

you still going for these baddies?!

Types of Women I approach

. Yeah man, I said it before and I will say it again...Walmart is the single most BEST place to find (and cold approach) the kind of women that I find attractive. What is my attraction? Well, I've had a lifetime fascination for BIG BREASTS. The bigger, the better. And where can I find the...

www.sosuave.net

 

[Bingo-Player]

This post is flawed

Women are a lot more socially intelligent in men they notice tiny things , tones , mannerisms , moods a lot better than we do

If you are nervous talking to a woman she will pick it up and amplify it within her mind 100 x

that is why women are so worried about "creeps" because a creep to them is a man that cannot control himself around them

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They absolutely DO test men because I have been with female freinds when they have been talking about it AND simultaneously doing it to men on their phones

My ex used to do it , she even admitted that ...on one of our first dates she tried changing the time by like an hour just to see how I would react and she would often be advising female friends on how to test guys they were seeing

The phrase "sh1t test" was engineered by PUA's that part is correct, as is the HOT & COLD warning trigger that is dangerous

But women absolutely do test especially when she's not 100% sold on you

And yes I have had women whom have been like 60-70% sold they've tested the fvck out of me and then have gone up to 100% when ive passed

 

[CornbreadFed]

My guess is that Gisele settled for Brady, ... after at least 6 boyfriends by 26yrs old including the well known relationship with DiCaprio, one has to be naive to believe she found 'the one', 'true love' in Brady. She just settled.
And re high value men, Brady is one as far as sports is concerned, that doesn't make him a high value man regarding relationships with women. For an even starker example of discrepancy between business/money success and women success look at Jeff Bezos.

this is just a bunch of cap. How is one of the best qbs in history and biggest household name not a high value man? This is why nobody takes anybody seriously that spews this term.

 

[pipeman84]

this is just a bunch of cap. How is one of the best qbs in history and biggest household name not a high value man? This is why nobody takes anybody seriously that spews this term.

Man, did you read my post before quoting it?
Just because he's one of the best sportsmen in NFL doesn't mean he's also the best poker player, chess player, stock market investor and so on, you get the idea.
Getting a woman pregnant just before breaking up with her hints he's not that high value in regards to relationships with women. Marrying a woman who by all probabilities settled for him is another hint.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

you still going for these baddies?!

Types of Women I approach

. Yeah man, I said it before and I will say it again...Walmart is the single most BEST place to find (and cold approach) the kind of women that I find attractive. What is my attraction? Well, I've had a lifetime fascination for BIG BREASTS. The bigger, the better. And where can I find the...

www.sosuave.net

Yeah, I am still going for those baddies.

I also go for baddies like this...(pictured).

You see, I like big titties, so that is what I go for.

And I couldn't give 3 flying FUKS about what these women do for you.

As long as they do it for me, that's all that matters.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Man, did you read my post before quoting it?
Just because he's one of the best sportsmen in NFL doesn't mean he's also the best poker player, chess player, stock market investor and so on, you get the idea.
Getting a woman pregnant just before breaking up with her hints he's not that high value in regards to relationships with women. Marrying a woman who by all probabilities settled for him is another hint.

You are either moving the goal post badly or placing women on an extremely high pedestal. There is little to no woman on this planet that has to settle for Tom Brady. If some washed up 304 settled for literally Tom Brady then we are all settling for women. What's the point of even having this topic then?

 

[member162951]

Both genders employ sh*t test or compliance tests. Even when highly interested we do this it’s human nature ffs. Think of phrase “comply or bye” that men employ? It’s all a natural part of dating. For females it’s to determine how stable the guy is, or how he feels about her. Things were mentioned earlier like intentionally waiting to reply to a text or cancelling a date to see if he will go batsh*t crazy on her. I have heard all sort of stories from women including my gf about guys flying off the handle over the stupidest sh*t. So YEAH their gonna sh*t test.

For men, we give compliant tests to determine her ability to be submissive and to gauge how interested SHE is. If she complies, she’s in. If she doesn’t, it’s bye. Comply or bye.

This sh*t is written, dissected and analyzed all over the internet not just SS.