You can reprogram any negative belief or insecurity. It just takes practice.

[RazorRambo24]

This is a response to a question based on this comment:

How can you reprogram yourself and beliefs?

The answer lies in first knowing what the beliefs that are engrained in you that you want to reprogram are. Once you know what it is you want to reprogram, it's a continual practice of combating those ideas.

ie: "My feet are too big I think everyone is noticing them and I hate being seen outside in shoes" -- You would take this belief and spend maybe 30 mins-1 hour to understand what might have gotten you to believe this.. and then you might come to some idea from 8-20 years ago where some kid made fun of your feet and everyone laughed.. or something stupid like that.. then because that affected you so much.. it was like a big sticky patch on your pants that wherever you went, and wherever you sat, you kept on attaching otherr ideas to it.. lets say you went to a shoe store and you were trying on shoes and the lady said "oh no you're way too big for these. let me get u a size up" and u prob took that the wrong way and it added to the big sticky patch of shame / humilation from the joke/comment you heard as a kid.. and then as you went along more and more happened.. and then you came to really believe that u have big feet + that it made people dislike u.

When you start combatting this -- you might tell yourself "no one cares about your feet. most people dont" - It might start by asking someone if people care about peoples feet size and hearing a buncha "no lol not really" "nope" nah" -- you at first still might not believe it because ur belief is so engrained-- but as time goes on, and you continue to combat it, more things will show up where they make u realize no one cares about ur feet and no one thinks ur feet are that big. and if someone does, its not a big deal because it doesnt affect much of anything.. So then u go from hating or feeling bad about your feet to a level of -Acceptance - of , okay i think I do have big feet.. compared to some people, but I at least NOW realize that No one cares about feet size like that.

Now as you continue to reprogram this belief, you might come to a point where someone says something positive to you about ur feet "oh lol he must have a big p.enis" "hehe oh i bet he does" "let me touch" *Girls giggling in unison*. This might start making u feel good. After some point u will no longer care about the belief that once bothered u.. after that u might get ot a point where u even start seeing people with bigger feet than you.. Then you really start realizing oh okay my feet are not much bigger-- im really average but since i thought ih ad big feet, i always noticed only people who had smaller feet than me.. but none of it matters anymore.

So that one less insecurity /reprogrammed belief might have raised your overall confidence 30% depending on how big/how badly it affected you..

----This is just a basic idea of how reprogramming works--- But the actions behind this is : 1) sitting with yourself understanding wheree the belief came from
2) Understanding and convincing yourself why the belief is irrational
3) Knowing that the belief is so strong so no matter what u tell yourself, the universe will make u see the opposite of what u want to see.. but that ultimately Perspectives are so strong that a anorexic girl that weighs 95 lbs thinks shes fat so she starves herself. So when u understand this, ull gain more confidence in combatting the negative belief/reprogramming yourself
4) You gotta start affirming that your belief isnt true or that its just delusional/irrational. In this case it would be "My feet aren't big, they're average, and plus, no one cares about my feet or pays attention to them, they're just feet "
5) There will be times where u feel embarrassed, ie: you're going to the beach or somewhere with friends and u know they will see ur feet without shoes, and might amake comments.. but u gotta push thru and go and get past it. Even if u feel horrible and it affects ur day while ur there, this will start helping u not care as much.. which is crucial to reprogramming
6) With some beliefs, u can even make it apoint to give MORE attention to it, make fun of it yourself-- and this might help people be like "lol what no.. ur feet arent big, look mine are bigger than yours"

Now-- forget Feet for a second.. and sorry for triggering those of you with a foot fetish.. -- I want you to realize that-- you can reprogram literally any thoughtform, belief, idea, insecurity, etc. -- I've studied this sht pretty deeply.. and its amazing how powerful our minds are. Most of our insecurities and delusional beliefs are programmed through Amygdala, this is a part of our brain that works on EMOTIONS., NOT LOGIC. Often our Hippocampus helps us rationalize things that bother us based on fear or insecurity and tells us things to calm us down and realize it might not be true, but when we are dealt with trauma, or alot of toxic relationships or unhealthy patterns of belief or self sabotage, the hippocampus may get faulty at doing its job.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

OP, this will apply to people who adopt a belief system. It's much better to use a degree-of-plausibility system instead. People who adopt extremely strong opinions (i.e., beliefs) open themselves up to cognitive dissonance.

While emotions can be dangerous, you do want to use intuition and discernment in addition to logic.

"Reprogramming" implies a forced change, not the best option imo. Get in touch with your spirituality and you won't be needing to "reprogram" anything, you will be able to perceive nuances better and won't be needing to do anything as drastic.

What you've described is self-brainwashing.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Here's a book you might find interesting, OP. It does talk about meditation and "spirit guides". That being said, the author worked for the CIA before it became too corrupt, so he can't be that wack.

Amazon.com

You want to monitor and control your thoughts, not "reprogram" them. It's as if you're describing acting. Actors tend to get a little cuckoo over the years because they're constantly "reprogramming" themselves for their roles.

How authentic can you be if you're going from one extreme to another?

 

[RazorRambo24]

OP, this will apply to people who adopt a belief system. It's much better to use a degree-of-plausibility system instead. People who adopt extremely strong opinions (i.e., beliefs) open themselves up to cognitive dissonance.

While emotions can be dangerous, you do want to use intuition and discernment in addition to logic.

"Reprogramming" implies a forced change, not the best option imo. Get in touch with your spirituality and you won't be needing to "reprogram" anything, you will be able to perceive nuances better and won't be needing to do anything as drastic.

What you've described is self-brainwashing.

Well it's mostly for people who want to change things they already believe about themselves. We can't help our circumstances or what people said to us or how it made us feel, or the beliefs we take on.. It's impossible for a kid to be able to filter stuff out growing up, or even an adult to filter out experiences that he's had unless he has a well developed sense of self and confidence.. But on SoSuave we're dealing with a crowd of men who are obviously here because at one point or another or even right now, they want women in their life-- but on the other hand they have had beliefs that make them hate women or feel like they are not good enough for women.

Everything you do an say, every action you take, etc is based on beliefs. We are creatures of programmed beliefs. If we were not we'd simply just be acting on pure reptilian brain instincts and pure survival instincts, animalistic behavior.

It's critically illogical to say "dont have a belief system" to creatures whose whole life is made up of beliefs in their subconcious mind that shape who they are, how they act, how they perceive themselves and their place in society.

What you suggest is more like something a sage or a monk would be able to do or someone who has reached a level of mental discipline and great understanding of how to use logic and rational over emotions. --aka you're preaching to the wrong audience here.

to sum it all up .. "it sounds good"

 

[BillyPilgrim]

It's critically unevolved to have a belief system to begin with. Deconstruct your beliefs certainly, but don't adopt new ones.

If you knew spiritual people in your personal life, you will see that we aren't necessarily creatures of programmed beliefs at all.

We can talk about "The Secret" but then we are getting into the Multiverse and no one understands much about that yet.

It's just a matter of developing your spirituality. It's not something that merely "sounds good", it's practically obtainable, and one can start with meditation.

It's not esoteric to suggest meditation.

 

[RazorRambo24]

It's critically unevolved to have a belief system to begin with. Deconstruct your beliefs certainly, but don't adopt new ones.

If you knew spiritual people in your personal life, you will see that we aren't necessarily creatures of programmed beliefs at all.

We can talk about "The Secret" but then we are getting into the Multiverse and no one understands much about that yet.

It's just a matter of developing your spirituality. It's not something that merely "sounds good", it's practically obtainable, and one can start with meditation.

It's not esoteric to suggest meditation.

We're talking humans here but even a robot needs a belief system. There has to be a certain form of coded beliefs to work off of, for that robot to be able to execute its programming.

Even the stuff you are saying is based off beliefs that you've developed from reading books, some of which you have mentioned and suggested here..

Regardless, thank you for your input. I do see some merit in what you're saying but I think it doesn't quite relate to this thread.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

So it's better to 'continually combat ideas" than to quiet your mind? One thing takes more energy than the other. What I am saying is largely based on personal experience and reflection, with the books as a springboard or supplement.

What you're describing sounds like an NPC mentality. You don't need to program, you can have epiphanies and perceptions. You don't want to program yourself with arbitrary information, you want to instill your mind with authentic information.

Rambo, do you work in IT?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If you have ugly feet, the answer is to not care about it. The answer is *not* to convince yourself you *don't* have ugly feet. Manage your insecurities through mind control and without bsing yourself with new and inauthentic "beliefs".

 

[RazorRambo24]

So it's better to 'continually combat ideas" than to quiet your mind? One thing takes more energy than the other. What I am saying is largely based on personal experience and reflection, with the books as a springboard or supplement.

What you're describing sounds like an NPC mentality. You don't need to program, you can have epiphanies and perceptions. You don't want to program yourself with arbitrary information, you want to instill your mind with authentic information.

Rambo, do you work in IT?

No and don't try to be slick and insult me, you will never compare to me in a million years. Guys like you sit on the internet and read books all day dreaming of one day having just one of the experiences that make up a regular weekend for me.

If you have ugly feet, the answer is to not care about it. The answer is *not* to convince yourself you *don't* have ugly feet. Manage your insecurities through mind control and without bsing yourself with new and inauthentic "beliefs".

Ugly feet is not the point, its an example. In reality the insecurities and beliefs people have are often more serious than just thinking they have big feet. You should know that. You've been here since 2021.

You clearly came in here to validate yourself by kicking some bull**** that sounds like some narcissist robot would say without really caring or probably even reading more than 2 sentences of what I wrote or understanding what this post is about and who the intended audience is. Just take a break and get some fresh air. I think you need it.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Lol have fun kid.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Lol have fun kid.

You too and No hard feelings, enjoy the fresh air. Nothing quite like it.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Agreed about the fresh air, hopefully you've gotten outside more. I have 20 years more life experience than you. Just something to keep in your (hopefully open) mind.

Now for the sake of clarity, and I should have done this before, but I define a belief as I would faith, as in the full trust or complete confidence in something. Which is dangerous if not indeed true.

You may have a different notion of "belief".

 

[Stanley]

Hey Cognitive behvorial therapy practices on SoSuave, I dig it!

Most people have an inaccurate self image especially in today's world.

We internalize so many things that are simply untrue and we greatly exaggerate their significance and they develop into an insecurity. Most of this takes place in childhood and adolescence. It can be overcome, but first one has to recognize these things and be brutally honest with themselves. I think only a select few people really put in the work to overcome their self doubts and sit with those uncomfortable feelings and thoughts.

There are numerous exercises you can do to combat these things. A broad example being
-Step one looking inwards
-Step two is identifying the root.
-Step 3 is challenging it by identifying cognitive distortions
-step 4 is finding evidence to oppose your past view
-step 5 form a more accurate image

I do agree with Mr.Pilgrim about quieting the mind with meditation and some other things, but I don't think that is what you're really getting at here. If I may, i'm going to add a book or two here that helped me in fighting my own insecurities/self image and mental conditioning. I've also shared it over dm's and had similar conversations with other posters here who received it well.

Psycho-Cybernetics

https://a.co/d/71YqVyg

Ten Days to Self-Esteem

https://a.co/d/3jGsEuP

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Hey Cognitive behvorial therapy practices on SoSuave, I dig it!

Most people have an inaccurate self image especially in today's world.

We internalize so many things that are simply untrue and we greatly exaggerate their significance and they develop into an insecurity. Most of this takes place in childhood and adolescence. It can be overcome, but first one has to recognize these things and be brutally honest with themselves. I think only a select few people really put in the work to overcome their self doubts and sit with those uncomfortable feelings and thoughts.

There are numerous exercises you can do to combat these things. A broad example being
-Step one looking inwards
-Step two is identifying the root.
-Step 3 is challenging it by identifying cognitive distortions
-step 4 is finding evidence to oppose your past view
-step 5 form a more accurate image

I do agree with Mr.Pilgrim about quieting the mind with meditation and some other things, but I don't think that is what you're really getting at here. If I may, i'm going to add a book or two here that helped me in fighting my own insecurities/self image and mental conditioning. I've also shared it over dm's and had similar conversations with other posters here who received it well.

Psycho-Cybernetics

https://a.co/d/71YqVyg

Ten Days to Self-Esteem

https://a.co/d/3jGsEuP

The point I'm making is that you don't want to replace an inaccurate self-image with a more positive self-image that's equally inaccurate. Anything fake is dangerous. You don't want to reprogram per se, you want to filter out excessive negative thoughts.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

And learn to write your own damn ads and engagement posts Rambo, or get a solid dude to do it. Keeping loosely on subject here, most of the social media chicks out there are the epitome of fake. I can see why you're pissed at me, but that's ok.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Fellow Gen-Exer's out there - is it just me or do these Millennialls have the biggest hard-on for this mindset stuff? It seems they tend to either despair or sugarcoating, with precious little ground in between the two extremes.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Hey Cognitive behvorial therapy practices on SoSuave, I dig it!

Most people have an inaccurate self image especially in today's world.

We internalize so many things that are simply untrue and we greatly exaggerate their significance and they develop into an insecurity. Most of this takes place in childhood and adolescence. It can be overcome, but first one has to recognize these things and be brutally honest with themselves. I think only a select few people really put in the work to overcome their self doubts and sit with those uncomfortable feelings and thoughts.

There are numerous exercises you can do to combat these things. A broad example being
-Step one looking inwards
-Step two is identifying the root.
-Step 3 is challenging it by identifying cognitive distortions
-step 4 is finding evidence to oppose your past view
-step 5 form a more accurate image

I do agree with Mr.Pilgrim about quieting the mind with meditation and some other things, but I don't think that is what you're really getting at here. If I may, i'm going to add a book or two here that helped me in fighting my own insecurities/self image and mental conditioning. I've also shared it over dm's and had similar conversations with other posters here who received it well.

Psycho-Cybernetics

https://a.co/d/71YqVyg

Ten Days to Self-Esteem

https://a.co/d/3jGsEuP

Yep you totally got the sentiment of my post and what you're saying mimics some of the points I made on reprogramming those thoughts and beliefs. I dig it.

Also, thanks for sharing those books. I recognize the 2nd one's author. I would definitely check them out and possibly add them to my collection. I been meaning to buy some more books on self development.. They tend to be great reinforcement and I often always find something new that I haven't known before. If you're into all this stuff, I'd recommend checking out Dr Joe Dispensza

And learn to write your own damn ads and engagement posts Rambo, or get a solid dude to do it. Keeping loosely on subject here, most of the social media chicks out there are the epitome of fake. I can see why you're pissed at me, but that's ok.

Haha I was going to mention this in the other post where you said it first, but our main consumer for this business is women so it only made sense. (Womens Clothing/Fashion Accessories) I mean trust me, I have written our ads on previous ad campaigns and I'm sure the copy wasn't bad but what really helped that she's done for me is her overall ad strategy, rather than just the copy. She just has a way more organized method of doing things.. I'm just brute don't think much and just go head first with things like that.

and p.s before I got into all this self development stuff and learning some good stuff from world leaders in this realm of knowledge I was just a menace .. some of this sht really helped me out--

But hey before you blame Millenials, it's your generation that started ths sht , Thanks Tony Robbins!

 

[Fruitbat]

Fellow Gen-Exer's out there - is it just me or do these Millennialls have the biggest hard-on for this mindset stuff? It seems they tend to either despair or sugarcoating, with precious little ground in between the two extremes.

I am right on the cusp of millennial and Gen x and I find millenials too idealistic and Gen x too nihilistic . A bit of balance would be nice.

Actuallt the most committed left wingers with a really strong hatred of conservatism are gen x. I do wonder whether the political leanings we are informed follow generational lines are false. All the Gen x ers I know are the kind of anti Regan/thatcher types and it’s mainly Gen x now bringing in all this woke stuff in companies. I was convinced it was millennials but when I looked at the people bringing it in, they are all late 40s and 50s. People in 30s often don’t have the power to do that.

Just observations.

 

[Stanley]

The point I'm making is that you don't want to replace an inaccurate self-image with a more positive self-image that's equally inaccurate. Anything fake is dangerous. You don't want to reprogram per se, you want to filter out excessive negative thoughts.

Wholeheartedly agree. That's what I meant with the brutal honesty mention. Independently it is challenging and that is why many seek out a 'cure' through beliefs systems found in religion or different trains of thought. Therapy 'can' be beneficial in undercovering this, but when 7 out of 10 psychologist in America are young women it can be like finding a needle in a haystack. I spent time studying CBT and found its methods to be greatly beneficial for me and it can be done independently, but there needs to be a drive to dig deep and pull out the gunk at the bottom.

Your mention of filtering excessive negative thoughts is a tenet of the practice, but I like how you say in particular excessive. Bad thoughts need to be addressed, but it is when they don't serve you and enter the realm of rumination that they should be cast aside.

I will say while we might not agree on everything looking past the trolling and cynicism you do drop some wisdom. I think you and Rambo here are both more less in the same vein, but semantics and nomenclature got in the way a bit. I think ya both make valid points

Yep you totally got the sentiment of my post and what you're saying mimics some of the points I made on reprogramming those thoughts and beliefs. I dig it.

Also, thanks for sharing those books. I recognize the 2nd one's author. I would definitely check them out and possibly add them to my collection. I been meaning to buy some more books on self development.. They tend to be great reinforcement and I often always find something new that I haven't known before. If you're into all this stuff, I'd recommend checking out Dr Joe Dispensza

Yeah David Burns is the man. Pioneered CBT and changed the game when it comes to mental health (in a real way, not the whole wokesy way). His book Feeling Good is a slog, but the one I linked above is a do it yourself kind of thing and you can take the exercises and apply em as needed. I like Joe Dispenza and have listened to him a bit, he gets into spiritual realm a little bit too much for me at times, but that could also just be the algorithm at play.

I think you would like the works of Gabor Maté, he has done countless interviews on youtube of late and his books are fantastic in relation to trauma formed in childhood. He is a real one and understands a man's mental health better than most. His book The Myth of Normal is one of the best reads I've experienced if you are into psych I highly recommend checking him out

I am right on the cusp of millennial and Gen x and I find millenials too idealistic and Gen x too nihilistic . A bit of balance would be nice.

Actually the most committed left wingers with a really strong hatred of conservatism are gen x. I do wonder whether the political leanings we are informed follow generational lines are false. All the Gen x ers I know are the kind of anti Regan/thatcher types and it’s mainly Gen x now bringing in all this woke stuff in companies. I was convinced it was millennials but when I looked at the people bringing it in, they are all late 40s and 50s. People in 30s often don’t have the power to do that.

Just observations.

I've had the same thoughts as well here in the states. I am technically the oldest of Gen-z and work primarily with teens one on one. I've noticed that the guys DO NOT subscribe to the majority of left wing views, they seem to be too timid to oppose it though. The girls on the other hand seemed to be deep in the herd. Interestingly, it seems the tail end of millenials and beginning of Gen Z seem to be quite defeatist and cynical, but those who are just a few years younger seem to be more spry and positve for the future. Don't know if that is youthful ignorance, but just thought i'd share.




Edit: God D*** fellas we writing books in this thread

 

[RazorRambo24]

FYI for the future guys aka @BillyPilgrim , lets try not to derail threads and push our own beliefs on people. No one wants to be preached to about what you believe about the world in a topic that's made to help people or that's in response to something someone asked.

Someone who really resonated with what I was saying and found this post helpful PMed me to let me know. I'm guessing he did not want to post in here because he didn't want to get caught in the crossfire of people arguing over their beliefs. Once in a while i get pms from people that resonate wiht what i say but it seems like they dont want to talk in the topics themselves because of other people making it about themselves or afraid someone might judge them and start arguing with them.

Quick shoutout to you @gwoppin for reachin out