Finally joined OLD for the first time ever at 30

[SW15]

last time I did OLD I came across so many profiles that were women in their mid to late 30’s, divorced or just single moms, all overweight, all demanding 6’1 or taller guys, it was a ****show.

I believe it.

You’ve said before that meeting women through your social circle is also a good option, but that currently doesn’t work for me in particular since I don’t have a social circle.

I've never had a social circle capable of arranging dates for me so I can identify with this. There is a difference between having friends and having a social circle.

 

[devilkingx2]

That's the best option if you're not a top tier man in looks and you lack any social circle options.

This Wheat Waffles video is top tier, I definitely recommend it to everyone.

 

[devilkingx2]

Sure, I feel like anyone with a shred of common sense knows that approaching random women walking down the street, through the mall, or shopping at the grocery store will not work and in most cases, those women would not be receptive at all. Now I’m not saying that all in person approaches are a waste of time and guaranteed to fail, what I’m saying is it has to be done in the right environment where the women are more likely to be receptive to your approaches.

I have met quite a lot of women from working retail at various stores and hitting on the customers and coworkers while the bosses weren't looking/around.

Solo tourists, regular customers and (some) flight attendants were particularly receptive

 

[redskinsfan92]

Technically I’m still 29, but I turn 30 in 4 months so close enough. But yeah, I finally signed up for OLD and its the first time I’ve ever done it. So I was in Vegas for all of last week and I thought that would be the perfect environment to give it a try. I already had a Tinder account that I made a few years ago when I was hammered drunk, so I just changed the pic and bio. I only uploaded one pic, which was a bathroom mirror selfie in the bathroom of my hotel room and my updated account was live for 3 days in Vegas. I ended up getting 4 matches off of that one bathroom mirror selfie and the first bio I’ve ever written for an OLD profile, and they weren’t bot accounts either since none of them messages me with a link and none of their profiles had Instagram usernames or OF links. I didn’t message any of the women I matched with since I just did this to test the waters. So my question is, what should I do next and what should I write for my bio? I’ve heard from some of you on here as well as other places online that you shouldn’t take Tinder too seriously and that if you’re using OLD, pay the less attention to that app since most women only use it for fun and an ego boost, not to meet anyone. I also saw that most of the women on my Tinder feed had at least 4 pics up and the app itself even said that you should have multiple pics up. Maybe I would’ve gotten more matches if I did, because only one pic might give people the impression that your account is just a bot.

OLD is a fvck1ng joke. In the past I put serious effort into. Tried everything. Took advice from this very forum. Took advice from Alpha Male Stategies. Hell, even tried Andrew Tate's advice back in 2018-2019. Got photos rated on stuff like photofeeler or whatever it was called. It was an absolute waste of time. Oh you'll get a few matches. Some will be really attractive. Most of the time they won't reply no matter what you send as a first message. Trust me. Tried it all. Other conversations will fizzle out. You might 2-3 dates over the course of a few years.

 

[SW15]

OLD is a fvck1ng joke. In the past I put serious effort into. Tried everything.

I agree. I had a bigger problem with "one date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Tinder was an amazing game changer in 2018-20. The most fantastic innovation in dating ever. Tits on tap. I've been off it since Covid. So. I have no idea how it is now. But. Back in the day. It was spectacular!!! I was dating hot girls 19-26. No kids, slim, not nutz. Just pure bliss. Good Luck!!!

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I agree. I had a bigger problem with "one date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

My Zoomer ex- told me she agreed to go out with a guy, 'cause she like his profile. But she didn't find him attractive. So she said:
no kissing . No sex.' The cuck still took her to a Giant's game and paid for everything. She fvcked me on the 2nd date and all I did was take her to the Modern Art Museum.

 

[SW15]

My Zoomer ex- told me she agreed to go out with a guy, 'cause she like his profile. But she didn't find him attractive. So she said:
no kissing . No sex.' The cuck still took her to a Giant's game and paid for everything. She fvcked me on the 2nd date and all I did was take her to the Modern Art Museum.

That's insane. Did she say that before the date or while on the date? Going to a professional baseball game for a first date is a bad idea in general. It's an even worse idea if the first date is arranged from either a swipe app or a social media DM.

Art museums in general are better first or second dates than pro sports games.

 

[redskinsfan92]

That's insane. Did she say that before the date or while on the date? Going to a professional baseball game for a first date is a bad idea in general. It's an even worse idea if the first date is arranged from either a swipe app or a social media DM.

Art museums in general are better first or second dates than pro sports games.

Idk, a minor league baseball game might not be bad, but I haven't tried it.

No. I thought about it a minute. Terrible idea. Too many issues that could pop up. Parking lot traffic, losing each other in large crowds, diarrhea inducing hotdogs, potentially loud depending on the game.

 

[Gamisch]

Tinder or any other dating app should compliment your dating life. Its an asset you have in the background. You dont put all your money just on OLD, you'll also try to find women other ways.

Perhaps you'll find 10 women a year through OLD, 5 in real life/social activities, 5 through forced day game ect.

I 100% get Luciano's take though. If you cant handle the slow pace of OLD, ditch it and go out in the real world to meet women. The energy ( rejection, succes, effort,energy) will be the exact same so you might as well be out in the field. Otherwise OLD is running on the background silently, providing you with the occasional dime piece now and then.

 

[SW15]

Idk, a minor league baseball game might not be bad, but I haven't tried it.

No. I thought about it a minute. Terrible idea. Too many issues that could pop up. Parking lot traffic, losing each other in large crowds, diarrhea inducing hotdogs, potentially loud depending on the game.

Minor league or non-major college sports (college volleyball, college soccer, etc) have the potential to be decent early stage dates. There have even been advice articles touting them as possible decent early stage dates. It wouldn't work as a first date arranged via swipe app or social media DM in any circumstance. It's more of a possible 2nd or 3rd date but I still wouldn't even do it as a 2nd or 3rd, regardless of the method used for the 1st date.

The issues that you identified are real considerations and would be bad even on a 2nd or 3rd date.

Sports game attendance might be more of an established couple date, even the lower cost minor league or non-major college sports events. Even though something like college volleyball might be free admission at a nearby college, there are still better options out there for an early stage date.

Tinder or any other dating app should compliment your dating life. Its an asset you have in the background. You dont put all your money just on OLD, you'll also try to find women other ways.

Perhaps you'll find 10 women a year through OLD, 5 in real life/social activities, 5 through forced day game ect.

I 100% get Luciano's take though. If you cant handle the slow pace of OLD, ditch it and go out in the real world to meet women. The energy ( rejection, succes, effort,energy) will be the exact same so you might as well be out in the field. Otherwise OLD is running on the background silently, providing you with the occasional dime piece now and then.

There's a school of thought out there for beginner to intermediate guys to focus on one form of Game and get really good at that form before moving on to other forms of Game. Learning Game solely on the swipe apps is going to be a bad experience. Day game, night game, and online game are all different skill sets.

Most men won't get a dime piece from online, especially the swipe apps. A dime piece could happen from Instagram DMs but also unlikely. It's so difficult to slide into DMs and get a response.

Day game can have a slow possible. It's possible to try to do a 2 hour approach session outdoors and get in only 2-3 approaches that go nowhere. It's possible to feel online has a faster pace because you can swipe through hundreds of women in the same time as a 2 hour day game session and you can do that from the comfort of home without showering or looking presentable, as you'd need to do for a day game session.

 

[Murk]

OLD is terrible if you’re ugly, I’ve been on 2 weeks and smashed 2 women from it. Time for some men here to face reality and act accordingly. See sig.

 

[Gamisch]

I think average is enough to be invisible on OLD.

OLD also doesn't give you a change to showcase your great personality, so by default it should be taken with a bag of salt.