Article: Is Everyone on Steroids?

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There is a lot of pressure to have big muscles. When there are surpluses of single males and female abundance in the mating market, many men think a way to win in the sexual marketplace is to have big muscles.

I don't think steroids are worth it. Whatever muscles I could gain with steroids are not worth the side effects. I will exercise and I will do the best I can with exercise.
 

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I don't think steroids are worth it. Whatever muscles I could gain with steroids are not worth the side effects. I will exercise and I will do the best I can with exercise.
Steroid muscles look awful. One can get a great physique just being natty. But you know.. it takes time and we live in an instant gratification society.
 

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I work in cancer care. I don't care to argue this but it isn't worth the risk of inducing prostate cancer (which is well treated when detected early but still).
 

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Interesting I’m fairly sure that steroid use elevates DHT which has a direct effect PSA which has an effect on prostrate size and benign prostrate hyperplasia not the incidence of cancer. If cancer cells exist it can kick them into high gear tho.
 

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That's just jealousy talk.
Nah. I live in meathead capital of the world (New Jersey). Not hard to find gear. Homies be shooting up in the locker room of Planet Fitness. “Girls like muscles bro”

Steroids are not magic, you still need to put the time and effort, eat right, sleep well, there is no magic pill. By your logic I look awful being enhanced.
No one was singling you out specifically. Yet here you are here trying to validate your gear usage. We know steroids are not a substitute for hard work. They still look bad. People on gear also for some reason think no one can tell they use.. when 9 times out of 10 it is obvious.

That's the span of two years, no instant gratification.
If that’s what 2 years of wrecking your endocrine system produced, I’d want my money back. Your body structure is still the same. To most people, your clothes will fit the same in these two pictures.
 

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I would say there are probably a lot of guys who are on minimal gear and just use it to help with recovery and I can respect that. Otherwise, the look is not great and many women express distaste for the bodybuilder aesthetic.

Funny enough, most guys in this camp initially do it to attract women (a form of simping) then develop body dysmorphia and narcissism and end up ramping up their gear in order to outcompete other men. Sad.
 

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I played ball with a lot of guys who were juicing back in the day. What made me glad I never did it is to see them now they are a shell of themselves, while I still look in shape even though I’m much older. Excuse the dirty mirror lol 2617BD33-2364-472D-A96B-13B7C6F0598A.jpeg
 

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I can I give a pass to baseball players who shot up in the 90s but it's getting out of hand seems like everybody's getting popped.
 

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I can I give a pass to baseball players who shot up in the 90s but it's getting out of hand seems like everybody's getting popped.
Everyone is getting popped. Acrors, professional athletes, Instagram influencers, and a lot of the dudes in your local gym. If it looks crazy, it is crazy.
 

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Everyone is getting popped. Acrors, professional athletes, Instagram influencers, and a lot of the dudes in your local gym. If it looks crazy, it is crazy.
And most of the dudes at the local gym don't know anything about supports for it so you'll likely be able to tell when they are showing off in tank tops and have back acne all over the place.
 

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You can go to any gym that has a clientele of men that go regularly and you will find that there are way more of them on steroids than you probably initially would believe. I can't cite a specific number, but for those that are actually into going to the gym I'd say it's around 20%. There are many men that are on steroids that look like totally average guys off the streets, it doesn't turn you into something from a Marvel comic automatically.
 

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Steroid muscles look awful. One can get a great physique just being natty. But you know.. it takes time and we live in an instant gratification society.
That's not true. There are plenty of men that go on steroids that look like totally average guys off the street, you probably don't even realize how common this is because they don't stand out at all from other men. The steroid/pro bodybuilder look is a combination of genetics and honestly using hefty amounts of gear, or something very strong like Tren. I personally don't mess with steroids, but I agree with your comment about them being unnecessary. There are just so many negatives to them for no real benefit other than acquiring validation/attention from other MEN. Women don't care if you are bench pressing 500 pounds or that you look like Ronnie Coleman, who they wouldn't find attractive anyway. Women just want a guy that is fit/athletic who also can live a normal life and is not so obsessed with his gym routine/lifestyle that he refuses to do regular things. Something else to consider, the whole bodybuilding thing has a huge gay culture and following associated with it, something a lot of people are not at all aware of.
 

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Im using Tren right now, and its not that great, I'm using 150mg/w to minimize sides, but honestly, I think NPP is better at 300-400 dosage than tren at 150mg for more gainz. Just my opinion.
If you can't get big from Tren then you just can't get big. It's for fvcking cows. Or it's junk gear/severely under dosed which is all too common as well.
 
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Steroid muscles look awful. One can get a great physique just being natty. But you know.. it takes time and we live in an instant gratification society.
I agree. The steroid look is very easy to spot, there's a very clear definition of abdominals that would normally take insane dieting to get to as a natural, and the shoulders are always unnaturally round. Instagram has plenty of these people with damn near perfect physiques, and I honestly don't have any respect and admiration for those folks. Their physiques look fake and identical. I'm far more impressed by someone with a natural physique who has good proportions and relatively low bodyfat (like myself :))

I'm presently dieting on 800 calories of protein/day (PSMF), I would take the hard route like that rather than steroids any day. At the end of my goal I can take pride in my physique knowing I earned it 100%, with no adverse health effects.
 

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Im using Tren right now, and its not that great, I'm using 150mg/w to minimize sides, but honestly, I think NPP is better at 300-400 dosage than tren at 150mg for more gainz. Just my opinion.
Since nandralone is the compound that's best for gaining mass, this makes sense. Tren is great for retaining lean muscle mass when in caloric deficit since it's anti catabolic, increases metabolism, and gives a unique look when lean enough. That's why most competitors use NPP and or Deca during their offseasons, and then drop and add tren during contest prep.
 

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I just feel lethargic on it idk. I was taking 25mg of aromasin E2D, cause of discomfort in my nipples, so idk if I tanked my estrogen or its just Tren making me lethargic. I got blood works done to see what it is, I should be getting the results in a couple of days.
It is impossible to tank Estrogen on Aromasin. It will not go below low normal. They tested this on males getting 50mg a day and it only got to the lower range of normal but would not go down any more. The only difference they found on 25 mg a day versus 50mg a day was how quickly it got to that level.
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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