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That's why I made a thread about knowing your competition. Most guys are clueless thts why they settle for their standards.. not knowing the guys out there not only look better, have whiter teeth with nice smiles, lift weights, can salsa dance, have tattoos and good sense of fashion, a nice well kept beard, etc etc
All of that is vacuous garbage. Playing that game and thinking of yourself as a badass is apex delusion.
 

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All of that is vacuous garbage. Playing that game and thinking of yourself as a badass is apex delusion.
Playing what game? Knowing your competition? Would you rather not know your competition and settle for being a mediocre shmuck that is invisible to most women? Hiding from what hurts because you know you might not be up to the standards of some men? Instead of facing it and seeing the reality of where you stand vs the men woman simp/go for and working at achieving those type of traits/characteristics?
 

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Playing what game? Knowing your competition? Would you rather not know your competition and settle for being a mediocre shmuck that is invisible to most women?
I encourage knowledge. To know the yeast people is to hate the yeast people. There's not a chance in hell I'm working to "achieve those types of traits/characteristics." That's not an achievement. It's debasement. That's the true "easy path" so many in these parts like to wave their ****s around about.
 

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I encourage knowledge. To know the yeast people is to hate the yeast people. There's not a chance in hell I'm working to "achieve those types of traits/characteristics." That's not an achievement. It's debasement.
No idea what you are referring to when you say "yeast people" , but I hope you understand we're talking about ordinary people.. just those who attract womens attention quite a bit. They often have traits and characteristics that are common, such as a nice physique, nice smile, or some interests, talents, hobbies, attitude/personalities , etc.. Why wouldn't you want to achieve something like a good personality or a nice physique, or a good sense of humor, or maybe some skills like be good at a sport, or dancing, or something? Maybe a strong social life even?
 

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No idea what you are referring to when you say "yeast people" , but I hope you understand we're talking about ordinary people.. just those who attract womens attention quite a bit. They often have traits and characteristics that are common, such as a nice physique, nice smile, or some interests, talents, hobbies, attitude/personalities , etc.. Why wouldn't you want to achieve something like a good personality or a nice physique, or a good sense of humor, or maybe some skills like be good at a sport, or dancing, or something? Maybe a strong social life even?
None of those qualities are "good." You're referring to human detritus that live undeserved lives of felicity by sole dint of being conformist mediocrities living in preternatural abundance. What they ought to be is fertilizer.
 

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None of those qualities are "good." You're referring to human detritus that live undeserved lives of felicity by sole dint of being conformist mediocrities living in preternatural abundance. What they ought to be is fertilizer.
I hope you find solace in whatever it is that motivates you in life. I hate to judge but I get the strange feeling that you're just unhappy/depressed about life in general. You randomly clicked on my post about charity/giving back ot humanity and reacted with a laugh emoji and said something about society not being the best to you. I hope whatever you're going through , you overcome it. Life can be cruel and life can be harsh.. But we need to look past what we feel "happened to us" or blame the world for our circumstances, and realize we have a huge part in how our lives play out, and how happy we are. I wish you the best . I mean that.
 

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Throwing down the gauntlet and saying no more is infinitely harder than spending your whole life as a circus attraction.
If that's what they have been doing all those years that's on them. Clowns usually find places to perform tho.
 

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How does this relate to the game changes every other poster on the thread has noted?

Man, there could be a nuclear war and you'd be ragging on dudes for whatever.

Do you have *your* fallout shelter ready?
Adapt or die. If you aren't changing with them then you get left behind. Plain and simple. Same as the people who used to get paid to add numbers by hand.

Part of success at ANYTHING in life is adapting to changing environments. Claiming you can't be successful with women because stuff changed is nonsense the same as someone who is a software engineer saying they can't write code anymore because they have to work in a new language. So what? Learn the language, it isn't that hard. Figure it out.
 

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@Stanley @BillyPilgrim @Barrister @characternote @Gamisch @Howiestern @LARaiders85
Thank you all for answering,I now think it is very reasonable and change wasn't something that was changing the idea of the whole site,but just people being more genuine and dating scene changing heavily from what it used to be.
Now I want to present to you all an amazing site, when I first started reading game material which I randomly stumbled upon on in some guy comment, he recommended Pook and this guy, I read all of Pook I found and it was amazing but at that moment I didnt have the drive to really feel it, then after some time and to be expected one big eye opening failure with women in my life, which was based fully on my way of acting which was very unmanly and pathetic, which may have been the reason why I was kinda ignorant at the looks being more talked about here now since that wasnt my problem mostly, but is still a huge part nowadays like u all have said, is when I started reading the second site trying to understand what happend to me, I experienced an epiphany since it really is an amazing site, and i think one big part as well as some of u have mentioned is guy that ran the site(which is a complete mystery as who he is), never really wanted to make money off it at all,he did sell his book later but it was for like 10 20$ and he gave it away to people who couldnt buy it for free all the time, so I think it was pretty genuine, anyways since I can only compare him to Pook they both write amazingly, their core beliefs are pretty similiar but Shark(owner of this site) is more of a bastard in a good way, one damn likeable bastard, anyways I will the work do the talk as the work of that quality in no way needs my supplicatory but genuine commentary.
One of his best articles
I am looking forward to exchanging opinions about this site if anyone eventually checks it out.
 

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Whilst what the others have posted is true within the manosphere

A lot of you are failing to realise is that women's own perceived value has increased astronomically in the last 10 years

Within a very short space of time they have bred in social movements like " boss B1tch" " influencer" "O/F model" " female dating strategy" , "sugar baby"

All of these cultures teach young women to exploit men's weaknesses for maximum economic gain

I'm not sure they realise you can't just switch that setting off when it comes to looking for a partner

Men have responded by doing the only thing they know ..........competing

It's become a proverbial race into the top echelons of male physicality ,finance , status and power in the hope of attaining a spot at which he becomes the prize again

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But it seems to me all of this is taking its toll on society and fatigue is setting in for both sexes

Women can only indulge in these cultures for a defined period of time I.E 18-30 , after which the next generation comes through and the attention shift begins

Not every man can make it into the top 10% or even the top 30% and most will at some stage get to a point where they wonder if its even worth it anymore

We are in for a very interesting decade

Every day i go about my business in the Uk people look miserable
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Old school game advice was actually very counterproductive for someone prone to analytical paralysis. It did a lot of harm, I think.
That is the whole point though. Understanding that your interaction with women ultimately should be for the sake of your own enjoyment and taking the pressure off of yourself. It isn't counterproductive at all. At the end of the day, your "analytical paralysis" is just a cute way of making an excuse for your own approach anxiety. You need to get rid of that to have any success with women.
 

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That is the whole point though. Understanding that your interaction with women ultimately should be for the sake of your own enjoyment and taking the pressure off of yourself. It isn't counterproductive at all. At the end of the day, your "analytical paralysis" is just a cute way of making an excuse for your own approach anxiety. You need to get rid of that to have any success with women.
No, it isn’t.
 

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Adapt or die. If you aren't changing with them then you get left behind. Plain and simple. Same as the people who used to get paid to add numbers by hand.

Part of success at ANYTHING in life is adapting to changing environments. Claiming you can't be successful with women because stuff changed is nonsense the same as someone who is a software engineer saying they can't write code anymore because they have to work in a new language. So what? Learn the language, it isn't that hard. Figure it out.
If “adapting” means wearing a gimp suit and taking another man’s **** up your ass, will you do that? Sadly I know the answer
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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