Porn is not unrealistic and NoFap is not a cure.

[HaleyBaron]

I repeatedly hear that porn provides unrealistic expectations to a man, so they aren't able to get hard or horny unless to the most model looking woman that is showcased around sites like pornhub and such. Both men and women feel that porn puts high expectations on them to perform and look their best. And that removing oneself from porn will effectively help them be motivated to get a woman and more motivated in life in general. I believe the issue here is that people are confusing one thing for the cause of the other. Rather than just seeing them as two separate issues that generally come from a different problem. In this case, motivation has nothing to do with porn. Without it, the person will still not have much if they don't have a goal in the first place.

So is porn unrealistic? It's no more unrealistic than football or other elite activities. It's an ideal, and striving for that ideal is not a bad thing. A man that can **** multiple women and go for long periods of time is mostly a stamina fitness thing. Becoming that man will not hurt anyone trying to match that image because it effectively makes you a better looking person and gives you more energy for other real life tasks. The big part of this ideal is women. They hate porn the most because it forces them to have to compete with these women. That means three things:

• Men like women who service them. Most western women hate this.
• Men like women who take care of their appearance and at least is not afraid of showing their female side. Too many women act like men these days.
• Men like women who are seductive. This applies to the first point, but it's more that a woman shows she wants the man to f*ck her, a trait you barely see these days. There are no feminine women walking up to a man and trying to get sex out of him simply to please him [no escorts or hookers apply].

So what is my thoughts on porn in general? Am I praising it? Not at all. A man who has many women has no need for porn. I see it mostly as a tool and as a free market activity upon our culture. It's meant to keep women in check because men give time, attention, and most of all money, toward media that displays sexy women. It's a necessity so that women have to compete in some matter. That is why you have all these women on twitch, onlyfans, and other places because they know that sex sells. And if they want that dough, they have to play up all parts of their womanhood. It's amazing watching all these infuriated feminists who hate having to be a woman and yet complaining that they cannot get that top dollar man they want. The contradiction is laughable from my pov, and it explains why men often go overseas to countries where women are still women.

NoFap is not a cure.

Most of the time, the man is doing something else that is contributing to his rise in productivity. Which is the point. NoFap was just an awareness that men are sitting at home doing lots of wasteful activities. Porn was just one of them. Bad diets, little to no exercise, no social life, probably stays on the computer 24/7. NoFap doesn't resolve this on its own. You could fix all of the bad things I just listed and you can still fap in peace. I've followed NoFap stories for a long time, and my conclusion is that men were confusing NoFap with Get Sh*t Done.

So no, porn is not unrealistic outside of steroid use and guys with elephant trunk d*cks [men always have the higher standards to match in porn where women have more leeway so this is just another avenue of women complaining about the easiest thing they can fix about themselves. Most women do not even need breast implants]. And NoFap is not a cure cause fapping is not the problem nor is porn.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Unless you are fapping like more than twice a day, I don't see why porn & fapping are bad. I know some guys say that helps them with their approach, but I think the assurance and confidence from just taking care of yourself and having a high quality of life helps this much more than just not watching porn.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Idk man I’m feeling better than I have in quite some time

 

[Dr.Suave]

Op makes some good points. Porn is not the issue, you shouldnt need porn in the 1st place.

 

[Fruitbat]

The vast majority of women in porn aren’t particularly beautiful. In fact it’s very rarely a seriously beautiful woman. Seriously beautiful women generally don’t need to f on camera for money. They will be the wife of a seriously rich, attractive and powerful man.

most women in porn are simply young, fit and take superb care of their skin, and spend hours in makeup and styling before a shoot.

I’ve watched a fair bit and the only way it affects me is that I get far hornier when my wife is presentable and not so much when she’s sat around with messy hair and sweat pants. I think this is pretty normal.

the males are completely inachievable - FAR more so than women. Any woman can Control her carbs, hit the gym, work on beauty and do her hair/makeup and wear sexy clothes.

As a man, other than going to the gym (a lot of male porn stars aren’t even buff) the main attribute is an enormous penis. Absolutely nothing any man can do to achieve that unless you’re born lucky.

Ive heard also women complain about not being able to get in shape because they had kids. Nonsense. My wife lost the 6-10 lb she gained in about 9 weeks. Her body now is almost the same. A bit of loose skin on her stomach but otherwise the same. And am I really bothered about that? What we look for is a good curve to the torso, a decent ass and a relatively small waist. The odd stretch mark really isn’t a big deal.

the absolute fkin cheek when they go on aboit expectations. Have you seem female romance TV or novels? The entire think is Uber wealthy and powerful men who are also incredibly handsome and fit. We literally only want a healthy looking women in makeup with nice hair, they want aesthetics but also you gotta be a CEO of a Fortune 500 company or a delegate at NATO.

we have a lot of “girl next door” type stuff. No such thing as “guy next door” romance. They have zero insight into their own behaviours.

you also must say they got a bit of ego. They flip their lid because you want to check out some chick on Instagram who happens to be 23 and hot. As if they expect to be the only woman on planet Earth their man finds attractive and then when they find out theyaren’t, Instead of a bit of humility they start campaigns to ban it and stop men accessing it or seeing it on adverts. It’s pretty lol

 

[CollegeMan22]

I disagree. NoFap encourages you to approach women by making you horny and attracted to normal bodies. And it greatly improves your sex life. I've never been so hard than after NoFap.

 

[Dr.Suave]

I disagree. NoFap encourages you to approach women by making you horny and attracted to normal bodies. And it greatly improves your sex life. I've never been so hard than after NoFap.

I dont doubt NoFap has its benefits. I dont doubt porn can be bad for you, give you ED in real life. I think op is digging deeper here. Maybe he´s on to something.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Unless you are fapping like more than twice a day, I don't see why porn & fapping are bad. I know some guys say that helps them with their approach, but I think the assurance and confidence from just taking care of yourself and having a high quality of life helps this much more than just not watching porn.

Porn, supposedly numbs your dopamine release structure so that you are less and less impressed with sexual stimulation as time goes on.

 

[corrector]

The vast majority of women in porn aren’t particularly beautiful. In fact it’s very rarely a seriously beautiful woman. Seriously beautiful women generally don’t need to f on camera for money. They will be the wife of a seriously rich, attractive and powerful man.

most women in porn are simply young, fit and take superb care of their skin, and spend hours in makeup and styling before a shoot.

I’ve watched a fair bit and the only way it affects me is that I get far hornier when my wife is presentable and not so much when she’s sat around with messy hair and sweat pants. I think this is pretty normal.

the males are completely inachievable - FAR more so than women. Any woman can Control her carbs, hit the gym, work on beauty and do her hair/makeup and wear sexy clothes.

As a man, other than going to the gym (a lot of male porn stars aren’t even buff) the main attribute is an enormous penis. Absolutely nothing any man can do to achieve that unless you’re born lucky.

Ive heard also women complain about not being able to get in shape because they had kids. Nonsense. My wife lost the 6-10 lb she gained in about 9 weeks. Her body now is almost the same. A bit of loose skin on her stomach but otherwise the same. And am I really bothered about that? What we look for is a good curve to the torso, a decent ass and a relatively small waist. The odd stretch mark really isn’t a big deal.

the absolute fkin cheek when they go on aboit expectations. Have you seem female romance TV or novels? The entire think is Uber wealthy and powerful men who are also incredibly handsome and fit. We literally only want a healthy looking women in makeup with nice hair, they want aesthetics but also you gotta be a CEO of a Fortune 500 company or a delegate at NATO.

we have a lot of “girl next door” type stuff. No such thing as “guy next door” romance. They have zero insight into their own behaviours.

you also must say they got a bit of ego. They flip their lid because you want to check out some chick on Instagram who happens to be 23 and hot. As if they expect to be the only woman on planet Earth their man finds attractive and then when they find out theyaren’t, Instead of a bit of humility they start campaigns to ban it and stop men accessing it or seeing it on adverts. It’s pretty lol

You should not need to watch porn if you have a good wife like that. There is no excuse for mental infidelity.

 

[corrector]

Once you get over 46 years old, you just lose interest in things like that. Nothing harder than getting old and still watching that stuff. Makes you feel sick, like you can't grow up from that 15 year old boy that discovered this thing for the first time by accident.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Experience and boredom is a thing, too. We get bored of toys, and we get bored of having the same woman, and we can get bored of watching porn. I'm no outlier. I watched a lot of x rated stuff when I was teen. I got introduced to it by a senior in high school of all places. But like everything, you get weened off it or have to get off it. It drains your energy, leaves you feeling miserable, and you can't get things done. The more I worked out and the more my career took off, the less I needed it. Soon, I got a woman, and I haven't needed porn since Ive experience regular sex. I have fapped now and again cause I am still a man, but I don't feel like I need to anymore. I can see where my life would have been if I remained in that life of sedentary. I would be out of shape, at a dead end wage job, and paying some girl $50 a month for her to say "Hi" to me.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You should not need to watch porn if you have a good wife like that. There is no excuse for mental infidelity.

Bro I get sex everyday and sometimes I just want to wank one off to some OG porn videos or something. Women hate selfish men in bed so it’s not like I just stick my penis in a vagina, *** and get on with my day.

Porn, supposedly numbs your dopamine release structure so that you are less and less impressed with sexual stimulation as time goes on.

Fapping everyday, okay you have a point. Fapping once or twice a week, it’s no big deal.

I disagree. NoFap encourages you to approach women by making you horny and attracted to normal bodies. And it greatly improves your sex life. I've never been so hard than after NoFap.

This reminds me of the Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign. If your entire campaign falters from a few candidates dropping out then your platform wasn’t good to begin with. If your confidence in approaching women goes to shvt because you rubbed one out to porn then I think that’s no different lol.

 

[YourGreatestFear]

most women in porn are simply young, fit and take superb care of their skin, and spend hours in makeup and styling before a shoot.

This exactly. Most women in porn aren't that hot. Maybe top 20-30%. There are some bombshells without fake tits and butts, but they are rare and most of them are amateurs who don't even show their faces and usually don't have more kinky stuff. If you check any more niche porn like BD * SM (really? this is a damn forum for men to get laid, why are you censoring BD ** SM?), then finding a really hot woman featuring in it is extremely unlikely. If you want to see the kind of sex most women actually want in the real life, you can check Pascal's Subsluts and see that most women there are meh, and some are straight ugly. In porn, girls with 9/10 in looks and higher rarely do really kinky stuff. The kind of stuff most girls secretly dream about, and most guys would enjoy the most.

As a man, other than going to the gym (a lot of male porn stars aren’t even buff) the main attribute is an enormous penis. Absolutely nothing any man can do to achieve that unless you’re born lucky.

Not true, actually. Check the male enhancement forums, you can add to your dig size with exercise. This isn't simple at all, probably as hard as going to actual gym in terms of the time used. On another hand, it's actually easier to add an inch to your member than to improve your stamina naturally without drugs and sprays. But if you want pornstar stamina, you can get it right here, right now using "cheats".

 

[Fruitbat]

Not true, actually. Check the male enhancement forums, you can add to your dig size with exercise. This isn't simple at all, probably as hard as going to actual gym in terms of times used. On another hand, it's actually easier to add an inch to your member than to improve your stamina naturally without drugs and sprays. But if you want pornstar stamina, you can get it right here, right now using "cheats".

personally I don’t really care. I wouldn’t put effort in to make my d bigger. I am statistically just over the average by a fraction so not bothered. If a woman was that into big D I wouldn’t want her in the first place. I mean, as a guy, are you really that picky about how tight her V is or an extra inch on her tits? A woman is a complete package.

as for lasting longer, 5-10 minutes is fine for me. I’d only want to last longer if I had a wish to be some amazing lay and the truth is, I don’t. Gonna sound selfish but I don’t want women who are that into sechs, I don’t want pressure and I don’t want women who prize performance that highly, because they will soon get bored and be off to find another c0ck the moment you have an off day.

i only came here to not be totally lame with women but I never had any ambition to be a Don Juan. I prefer women who are just pretty reserved about sexhs and see it as an intimate thing that’s not about how big your d is or how long you can go…hope that makes sense.

 

[corrector]

Bro I get sex everyday and sometimes I just want to wank one off to some OG porn videos or something. Women hate selfish men in bed so it’s not like I just stick my penis in a vagina, *** and get on with my day.

That's not the point. It is directed at a married person who made a public and religious vow to be with the other woman. You didn't specify if you are having sex with a girlfriend, plate, or casual sex either in which case there are no fideity issues on principle to another woman. The idea is porn becomes a type of greed of wanting more and more as you are not satisfied with what you have.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

The vast majority of women in porn aren’t particularly beautiful. In fact it’s very rarely a seriously beautiful woman. Seriously beautiful women generally don’t need to f on camera for money. They will be the wife of a seriously rich, attractive and powerful man.

most women in porn are simply young, fit and take superb care of their skin, and spend hours in makeup and styling before a shoot.

I’ve watched a fair bit and the only way it affects me is that I get far hornier when my wife is presentable and not so much when she’s sat around with messy hair and sweat pants. I think this is pretty normal.

the males are completely inachievable - FAR more so than women. Any woman can Control her carbs, hit the gym, work on beauty and do her hair/makeup and wear sexy clothes.

As a man, other than going to the gym (a lot of male porn stars aren’t even buff) the main attribute is an enormous penis. Absolutely nothing any man can do to achieve that unless you’re born lucky.

Ive heard also women complain about not being able to get in shape because they had kids. Nonsense. My wife lost the 6-10 lb she gained in about 9 weeks. Her body now is almost the same. A bit of loose skin on her stomach but otherwise the same. And am I really bothered about that? What we look for is a good curve to the torso, a decent ass and a relatively small waist. The odd stretch mark really isn’t a big deal.

the absolute fkin cheek when they go on aboit expectations. Have you seem female romance TV or novels? The entire think is Uber wealthy and powerful men who are also incredibly handsome and fit. We literally only want a healthy looking women in makeup with nice hair, they want aesthetics but also you gotta be a CEO of a Fortune 500 company or a delegate at NATO.

we have a lot of “girl next door” type stuff. No such thing as “guy next door” romance. They have zero insight into their own behaviours.

you also must say they got a bit of ego. They flip their lid because you want to check out some chick on Instagram who happens to be 23 and hot. As if they expect to be the only woman on planet Earth their man finds attractive and then when they find out theyaren’t, Instead of a bit of humility they start campaigns to ban it and stop men accessing it or seeing it on adverts. It’s pretty lol

No idea what kind of porn you are watching but most of the women I see are pretty freaking hot

 

[corrector]

The only issue I have with porn use are escort pics, which technically may be softcore/non-nude photography type of porn, especially if they have a web-page or OF page that goes into more nudity/hardcore content than their ad is displaying. Escort pics are better than porn because there is a tangible chance you can visit one so it's not entirely an abstraction. Either way, for religious reasons I dare not watch it if I can help it.

 

[corsica]

I prefer NoFap. I don’t even find pleasure stroking my c0ck. I also think it screws my erections.
Friends of mine watch plenty of porn and never had problems getting erections or banging below average girls.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I prefer women who are just pretty reserved about sexhs and see it as an intimate thing that’s not about how big your d is or how long you can go…hope that makes sense.

That is how it should be however somewhere along the line like most things in modern society Secks became commoditised and now we are in this mess whereby people are led to believe they are missing something if they aren't having hardcore fetish Secks 15 times a day whilst experimenting every position in the entire karma sutra

Its nonsense

 

[Jor-El]

Some women think that old gits are better in bed due to years of experience. They don't realise that we`ve just been crap at it for a lot longer