Condom Policy

[anonymous12345]

For me condoms are almost depressing, they take away so much fun. Therefore I’m interested in having a policy that in the cases it is possible, allows without.

From my understanding the risk of pregnancy if you don’t *** in her is so low it’s ignorable, so this aspect doesn’t worry me. Correct me if I’m wrong. Can anecdotally confirm myself.

However, STDs from girls that are out and about are a real concern.

No matter what, raw dogging involves risk, but one might be able to reduce it to bearable levels. One way is a talk: “Girl, it’s no worries and totally fine if you’ve had unprotected sex, I just need to know so you don’t risk my and your sisters’ health.” Her answer might be a lie.

In all I believe in social tentacles here and follow assessment and subsequent “trust level.”

• If it’s a virgin, raw dog is ok.
• If it’s an experienced girl, have a higher threshold for the trust level to pass.

But in all, it involves social judgment, so there’s always a risk. You also have that risk with a girl in LTR.

Good approach?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Always wear a hat on your little dudebro...

Guys are not the only one these days spinning plates. The girl next door has at least 5-10 guys in rotation and its almost high fasion to be a 304 these days. They are all "boss bitches" and their 302 phase is more or less permanent until thye hit their 30'ties.

rom my understanding the risk of pregnancy if you don’t *** in her is so low it’s ignorable, so this aspect doesn’t worry me.

Good luck with all the child support claims you will receive over time for thinking that. Unless you bang old hags.

Her answer might be a lie.

Girls lie all the time like crazy, just ask them their body count.
You will never get a real answer and do you expect it to be different with STD's?

If so then you are a fool...
So always protect yourself, it is not worth it. If you are really unlucky you could get HIV e.g. over time aids too and that is a killer in many ways, (You will most likely die from it eventually), no matter what people might say or claim about it.

 

[anonymous12345]

Always wear a hat on your little dudebro...

Guys are not the only one these days spinning plates. The girl next door has at least 5-10 guys in rotation and its almost high fasion to be a 304 these days. They are all "boss bitches" and their 302 phase is more or less permanent until thye hit their 30'ties.

Not trusting them and wearing a condom signals self-respect and perhaps a more worldly character. So raw dogging is only for LTRs according to you?

 

[sangheilios]

@anonymous12345

Did you know that you can still get herpes even while wearing a condom? With that said, STDs are often severely overblown and the vast majority of horror cases you see are going to be in the gay male community, which you and everyone on here are not a part of. Having sex with a woman does not come with anywhere near the same risks as that of being a sexually active gay man. Also, you having penis-vaginal sex makes you less likely to acquire an std compared to the woman being penetrated. I'd be most concerned about genital herpes, the other STDs you would be exposed to are relatively treatable and you can largely avoid this if you aren't having sex with regularly promiscuous women. In things like chlamydia, men don't really show symptoms that are as apparent, whereas with women when they become infected, they have far more obvious symptoms that result in them getting tested, treated, etc.

As for getting a woman pregnant, a lot of them are on the pill. If you don't want children at all than you could consider getting a vasectomy.

 

[Dr.Suave]

If she´s young, hot, doesnt have baby fever, her family has money, there are no red flags, and there are a bunch of green flags, maybe.

Just ask yourself: "If we had an accidental pregancy right now, would I consider it closer to good news or bad news?"

 

[SW15]

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Iron Rule of Tomassi #5

NEVER allow a woman to be in control of the birth.

This means use condoms. Condoms have usefulness for both significantly reducing the probability of pregnancy and STDs.

Yes, condoms reduce sensation. There are some better varieties that you can buy to help a little bit with that but utimately they don't feel that great. Sex with a condom is a better experience than being an incel.

The only reason not to use a condom is for planning to conceive in a very secure relationship. That situation isn't applicable for most men most of the time.

 

[sangheilios]

The Iron Rules of Tomassi

One of the most influential books in my life has been The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. It’s a book I wish every man could read, and I…

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Iron Rule of Tomassi #5

NEVER allow a woman to be in control of the birth.

This means use condoms. Condoms have usefulness for both significantly reducing the probability of pregnancy and STDs.

Yes, condoms reduce sensation. There are some better varieties that you can buy to help a little bit with that but utimately they don't feel that great. Sex with a condom is a better experience than being an incel.

The only reason not to use a condom is for planning to conceive in a very secure relationship. That situation isn't applicable for most men most of the time.

Honestly, if you are in a secure relationship you should be able to have a conversation about birth control with the woman you are with. Very few women are looking to get pregnant out of the blue unless they have their biological clock ticking, which I have seen before with women getting up there. Something else I'd be cautious of is if her friends are getting pregnant or are having babies and she is still childless, feelings of "baby fever" may be developing. I think the condom use is more important for those having one night flings with loose women that are very likely to have STDs, as I had mentioned on my previous post.

Vasectomies can be a solution to prevent accidental pregnancies. There was some sort of invention developed where a man can have a pseudo vasectomy that he can turn on or off, I recall reading about this back in 2016. Birth control on a biological level is almost entirely female based. Male condoms are really our only option, assuming a vasectomy hasn't been done, and even these can have issues like breaking, etc.

 

[anonymous12345]

According to official Swedish statistics there's 2-4% likelihood of pregnancy with unprotected sex. That means one should expect pregnancy every 25-50th lay.

 

[sangheilios]

So always protect yourself, it is not worth it. If you are really unlucky you could get HIV e.g. over time aids too and that is a killer in many ways, (You will most likely die from it eventually), no matter what people might say or claim about it.

That's not true. If you are a heterosexual man having sex with women your chance of being exposed, let alone infected, to HIV is extremely unlikely. In the U.S., I'm assuming the stats are similar throughout the rest of the west, women have an HIV rate below 1%, it's around 2% for black women though. However, it's gay men that this disease is overwhelmingly found in, with around 1-6 gay men being positive in their lifetime. The rates are even far worse for gay black men specifically and transgendered people, about 50%. If these stats occurred in the general population it would be a major public health crisis. HIV/AIDs is basically isolated to gays and transgendered people and those using/sharing needles with injectable drugs.

Even if you had sex with a woman who had HIV, your chances of acquiring it from a single exposure are actually not that high. I sure as hell wouldn't take a chance with that if I knew she had HIV lol. However, when you factor in the chance of finding a woman like this in the first place AND actually being infected it's incredibly unlikely.

 

[sangheilios]

According to official Swedish statistics there's 2-4% likelihood of pregnancy with unprotected sex. That means one should expect pregnancy every 25-50th lay.

Who are you planning on having natural sex with?

 

[SW15]

Honestly, if you are in a secure relationship you should be able to have a conversation about birth control with the woman you are with. Very few women are looking to get pregnant out of the blue unless they have their biological clock ticking, which I have seen before with women getting up there. Something else I'd be cautious of is if her friends are getting pregnant or are having babies and she is still childless, feelings of "baby fever" may be developing. I think the condom use is more important for those having one night flings with loose women that are very likely to have STDs, as I had mentioned on my previous post.

Most relationships are not as secure as most men think that they are. Romantic relationships today are a lot like employment. Layoffs are rampant in the working world and breakups/divorces are common in romantic relationships.

"Baby fever" can overtake social circles like crazy. My friends/acquaintances primarily from the same social group have done their best to mimic each other's lifestyles. That's why there have been 7 pregnancies among my friends/acquaintances since mid-2021. That's not coincidental at all.

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Having a child is a big decision. The man needs to make it himself, not have it forced upon him by a woman.

Vasectomies can be a solution to prevent accidental pregnancies. There was some sort of invention developed where a man can have a pseudo vasectomy that he can turn on or off, I recall reading about this back in 2016. Birth control on a biological level is almost entirely female based. Male condoms are really our only option, assuming a vasectomy hasn't been done, and even these can have issues like breaking, etc.

Vasectomies prevent pregnancies. They do nothing for STDs and they affect your ability to date to as well.

If you're going to spin plates or do serial monogamy with a vasectomy, you'll still need to wear condoms to prevent STDs, which takes away from the main advantage of a vasectomy, which is condom-free sex.

If you find yourself single post-vasectomy, realize that a lot of women aren't interested in a man with a vasectomy. Most women want children at some point, if not in the short term. Some women won't get involved as a result. A guy without a vasectomy using condoms has more sexual options and might put up more notches.

The only group that is more attracted to men with vasectomies are single moms who don't want more kids. Most men aren't making that group of women a priority in dating.

 

[sangheilios]

Most relationships are not as secure as most men think that they are. Romantic relationships today are a lot like employment. Layoffs are rampant in the working world and breakups/divorces are common in romantic relationships.

"Baby fever" can overtake social circles like crazy. My friends/acquaintances primarily from the same social group have done their best to mimic each other's lifestyles. That's why there have been 7 pregnancies among my friends/acquaintances since mid-2021. That's not coincidental at all.

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Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...

www.sosuave.net

Having a child is a big decision. The man needs to make it himself, not have it forced upon him by a woman.



Vasectomies prevent pregnancies. They do nothing for STDs and they affect your ability to date to as well.

If you're going to spin plates or do serial monogamy with a vasectomy, you'll still need to wear condoms to prevent STDs, which takes away from the main advantage of a vasectomy, which is condom-free sex.

If you find yourself single post-vasectomy, realize that a lot of women aren't interested in a man with a vasectomy. Most women want children at some point, if not in the short term. Some women won't get involved as a result. A guy without a vasectomy using condoms has more sexual options and might put up more notches.

The only group that is more attracted to men with vasectomies are single moms who don't want more kids. Most men aren't making that group of women a priority in dating.

I don't agree with this, how the hell would they even know you had a vasectomy unless you went out of your way to tell them? \

However, I do agree that if you had a vasectomy and were dating a woman it could definitely be a problem down the road if the relationship was to become more serious. Most women eventually want to have a child and you being unable to provide her with this could become a major problem in your relationship, naturally she'd look somewhere else for a sperm donor. A solution to this could be to have your sperm cryogenically stored, I recall reading into this a while ago and it was less than 1k per year. The problem would be actually inseminating a female with this. One benefit is that it could preserve sperm from when you are a young and healthy man compared to sperm from when you are an older father.

 

[patb]

Tbh, I don’t use them unless she makes me. I may very well regret that one day

 

[Stuffnu]

Gamble in the casino - not in the bedroom.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

women your chance of being exposed, let alone infected, to HIV is extremely unlikely.

This whole myth with that HIV/ aids is no concern is.. well concerning. It not like it has gone away.
And with todays women maybe fvcking 7-15 guys (Don't quote me on the number), in their roster rotation simultaneously the risk or chance is higher than ever before of getting STD's.

In the past before the internet girls did highly like not have access to so many dudes as they do today and their plates were few. Not like that anymore.

In the past it was shameful to be a wh0re. Now in 2023 it's a feat. of pride to be one.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Yes, condoms reduce sensation.

They also reduce the sense of regret later.
Ha ha

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Not trusting them and wearing a condom signals self-respect and perhaps a more worldly character. So raw dogging is only for LTRs according to you?

I don't dip my best buddy into something that can make it fall off later.

 

[SW15]

I don't agree with this, how the hell would they even know you had a vasectomy unless you went out of your way to tell them? \

A guy could probably get way with it if he were only focused on one night stands and casual sex. If he were only focused on one night stands and casual sex, he'd still need to wear a condom for STD protection, which does defeat the purpose of a vasectomy.

The typical guy getting a vasectomy is not an unattached guy. The typical guy who gets a vasectomy is a blue pill beta male is his mid-30s to early 40s with a wife who has already popped out 2-3 kids. He's doing it at the request of his wife and he thinks by doing it that it will keep her happy and enable the relationship to get stronger because they don't have to worry about pregnancy anymore. The problem with this line of thinking and this action is that is rarely re-vitalizes a sagging relationship. Eventually, the guy who got a vasectomy for his ex-wife is now divorced and looking for new women. That's where the next quote comes into play.

I do agree that if you had a vasectomy and were dating a woman it could definitely be a problem down the road if the relationship was to become more serious. Most women eventually want to have a child and you being unable to provide her with this could become a major problem in your relationship, naturally she'd look somewhere else for a sperm donor. A solution to this could be to have your sperm cryogenically stored, I recall reading into this a while ago and it was less than 1k per year. The problem would be actually inseminating a female with this. One benefit is that it could preserve sperm from when you are a young and healthy man compared to sperm from when you are an older father.

Sperm donations, adoption, etc. are all challenging paths.

Divorced dads (the typical vasectomy guy) do have a difficult time with childless women, especially 30 something childless women with big time ticking biological clocks who are wanting their "Last Call" babies. Divorced dads can do ok with the single moms who are done with kids (a challenging set of relationship circumstances -- Rich Cooper had part of a chapter about this in "Unplugged Alpha") or 40+ childless women who have accepted their childless fate.

Once a woman turns 40, she's less likely to conceive and condoms might not be as necessary in more secure relationships. I'd still be inclined to follow Iron Rule #5 through menopause, which is typically 45-54. STDs are still a factor. There have been more STDs in 55+ communities since the early 2000s because some 55+ people neglect to use condoms because pregnancy isn't going to happen.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Honestly just wear a condom.. Its how im one of the few friends of mine who has never caught an STI/STD while having a high body count.. if you like a girl enough , make her your girlfriend and then u dont hve to wear one.. birth control is great

You got peop;el going around now like trying to convince others herpes is mad normal just because they have it.. This girl i started seeing recently has it and had an outbreak.. huge turnoff.. none of that **** is cool.. stay strapped.. yes it wont prevent everything but at least us dudes have HPV shots..

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

@anonymous12345
In things like chlamydia, men don't really show symptoms that are as apparent, whereas with women when they become infected, they have far more obvious symptoms that result in them getting tested, treated, etc.

Don’t forget trichomonas, you can carry it for years asymptomatically.