OLD is and always has been the bottom of the barrel as far as meeting women goes.It’s canned and unnatural.The most attractive and best women to meet are rarely,if ever on OLD.
I agree that swipe apps (and dating websites before them) are the bottom of the barrel. Women generally don't want to turn to swipe apps unless they can't meet anyone through their social circles and they haven't been impressed with nightlife venues, co-ed sports leagues/other activities, or their non-bar approaches at the gym and retail venues.
Higher quality women (not solely judged on looks alone) can usually find boyfriends from real life methods. There are some women in the 5-6.5 range with good personal attributes that can be called higher quality. The best looking women (7.5+) usually have sufficient options from nightlife, random non-bar approaches, and their social circles/other activities. The best looking women also have good volume of approaches in their Instagram DMs too if they need to look there, which they'll do before going to swipe apps.
What's common on swipe apps are women in the 5.5-7 range who don't have a social circle (often due to relocations). These women have some big swipe queues and full inboxes in the apps. It's common for a 5.5-6 woman on an app to be having sex with men in the 8+ range, but not being able to get extended commitments from them. After this, the real life 5.5-6 woman isn't psyched to field approaches in real life from a 5.5-6.5 range guy after she deletes apps from carousel riding, and it can be tough adjustment to settle for a 6 after having sex with 8+ men.
OLD is good for keeping dry spells at bay. You can generally find a hookup every week or two from being on it - albeit not always with women you would otherwise go for IRL.
You typically will match with 1-2 levels below your own SMV on OLD consistently. Hence, why it generally is not worth it UNLESS you are simply needing to get out of a dry spell. After getting out of a long term LTR, OLD can definitely help get you back on track because it doesn't matter how you interact with these women at the end of the day. It is essentially low hanging fruit.
Mostly true, if you're a higher SMV guy. Normies and sub 5 SMV guys aren't getting much play on swipe apps.
Yeah entry level jobs is one thing, but most people don't stay at their first job long anymore. There are three types of graduates and I will rank their chances of staying.
This was a good breakdown of women with college degrees. I'll add some of my own comments to this, mainly about women in their 20s-early 40s in these 3 categories.
Entry Level BS/Business Jobs- These women have the lowest career satisfaction, so they are more than likely going to make stupid decisions based on their stress and disappointment. It's harder for these women to just find another job in a different city so these women move around via internal promotion or quitting and just moving somewhere. These are the type of women to do stupid shvt or travel 80 times month to compensate for their shvtty career they are chasing.
This is the most common type of woman in my experience. She had either a liberal arts/social science major or a business/business-type major. These women are usually found in meaningless business jobs and a few have bullshiit government jobs. Either way, their jobs stink and their work lives are not pleasant in a lot of cases, which spills over into their personal lives. The demands of their jobs vary in range due to the commonality of this woman. The ones with less demanding jobs in this category are likely to make better girlfriends.
If their college was in a bigger city, they are more likely to stay in that city post college. If their college was in a small to mid-sized area, they often go to a larger metro area, especially if they are not in a committed relationship in the final semester of college when doing a job search. They might move a couple times between 22-35. Some might even move to a new city at the end of college with their college boyfriend.
Around age 30, some of these women in business careers get meaningful promotions to middle management and some might even reach upper management by 35-44. Some of them get MBAs between 26-34.
Bad personal life decisions are common in this group. Some bad decisions might not have too bad of consequences, such as extended no marriage/childless lifestyles. There are single moms in this group, though with increased Millennial childlessness, single motherhood is declining here (though single motherhood is more common in women without college degrees).
This is a bit of a difficult group to discuss because it's so large and varies a lot.
If a woman has multiple relocations between 21-30 in this category, the more likely she is to be found on a swipe app, especially if she's average looking or only slightly above average.
Any Graduate Student- These women are the most fleety because they go wherever which Law, Medical, Graduate School/post grad job accepts them. In additional to Medical School, you have residency too. If you decide to date a girl in this category, expect to have this talk.
This group relocates multiple times between 21-32. They have demanding jobs and are career oriented. This group is more commonly seen on swipe apps than they are seen in real life. For instance, most men who randomly approach women in real life will rarely (if ever) approach a female lawyer. However, most men will encounter far more female lawyers when swiping through the apps.
This is a tough group to date because they are career first and that doesn't leave enough time to develop personal attributes that make for a good girlfriend. They don't have enough time in the early stages of a relationship to properly develop a relationship. Also, sometimes these women are so focused on their academic discipline that they are extremely dull and can't talk about anything outside of that discipline. This is somewhat common with female MDs and dentists. Female PhD psychologists/MA level mental health counselors can be interesting in conversation and can discuss a range of topics. Female PhD student/PhD assistant professors can go either way on dull vs. interesting. For men running rotations of multiple women, some can be lower rotation plates if you can tolerate the feminist/careerist stuff.
Female MBAs with corporate careers are often obsessed with business, especially if they got an MBA from a Top 25 program. They'll incessantly talk business. Female MBAs from non-Top 25 schools are similar too. The women with MBAs are more drastic versions of the women with business careers from the last category.
Men that don't use swipe apps can mostly avoid women with advanced degrees in dating settings, though they might have female co-workers with advanced degrees. This group is overrepresented compared to the general public on swipe apps.
Specialized careers- Nurses, Teachers, Engineers, etc- These careers have better job satisfaction than your entry level corporate/BS jobs and pay more (except Teachers). These women might be extra thotty, but they have less of a reason to leave their jobs unless their employer does it for them such as travel nursing.
These can be good so long as they don't get an advanced degree. Females in STEM can be a bit weird. The S from STEM can lead to female doctors from the previous category. Female engineers can be a bit odd. A lot of men won't run into them.
Female K-12 teachers are common still. That was the typical female career before the 1970s and 2nd wave feminism. While female K-12 teachers used to be a good bet for girlfriend material and femininity, they have declined.
Nurses can have either a bachelor's degree or a trade certification. Nurses, like teachers, have seen their feminine/good girlfriend attributes decline in recent decades.
This category is the least likely to relocate, though the ones that relocate will end up on swipe apps.
