First Date Cancel

[Pierce Manhammer]

And let's be honest; we men sometimes also keep a "uglier " chick around ,keeping texting her in case there is nothing else to fvck.

So, so true.

 

[EyeBRollin]

If a woman cancels the date what’s the best coarse of action?Also is it a **** test? View attachment 9172

She told you directly-

“Do you maybe want to try and get something before work in Chesterfield?”

Translation- ask me out this week before work in Chesterfield

Your response was 100% wrong. Make the date before work in Chesterfield. She made it easy for you. You are lucky this girl likes you…

 

[Harrison0409]

Was it going to take her all day to help that supposedly family member.. what about after.. she shot that text at 8am
Would she still take all day if Drake hit her up to meet at 7pm at a certain joint?

Any female with peak sky interest is willing to meet up with you even at night fall if you set the mood and temperature right. I have had first dates with girls just sitting and talking in my car scoping out the skyline parked next to the San Diego bay almost hittin midnight.
You catch my drift..

you explained yourself too much and responded to quick with that reply. Beta vibes.
"understandable" what that she discarded you for the day?
"my work day starts at 5am" she dont give a sh1t about that. irrelevant.
"just let me know what works for you" nah she should be the one making cracks to slip on your watch, big dawg.

no need for all that. allure some mystery with women that you haven't fvcked

Puzzy is puzzy in these trying times.
Her weak counter is her last chance but I would have waited atleast 24 hours to reply to that sh1tty reeking of a lie text with a careless one liner
"hit me up when u in the area if i'm around lets grab something" a high interest woman will stay in touch and turn up

Thank you for this advice .I just got out of a 20 yr LTR & marriage.The alpha & beta is new to me. I’m doing my best to learn quickly.

 

[Glassguy]

She has made an effort to reschedule....so accept her offer.

If she had flaked and made no counter offer then that's different.

I was meant to be meeting a girl yesterday. We had it planned. I texted her to say "we still on for today" heard nothing from her"

She just messaged me saying her phone was broke LOL. I seen her online yesterday....so she's a bare faced liar.

This. She did say she wanted to get together.

Me: yeah no worries. What other evenings are you free this week?
She gives me availability and I choose. Seems simple.
Stop making this so hard fellas. Life comes up sometimes.

If she bails again or squawks at giving you an open evening she is available, just don't respond back.

But leave the ball in her court and see if she follows through once you set another date.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Thank you for this advice .I just got out of a 20 yr LTR & marriage.The alpha & beta is new to me. I’m doing my best to learn quickly.

I hear you.
Don't get too caught up in the alpha/beta dynamic. Every man walks in his own shoes with a different limp but you can no doubt absorb wisdom regarding female nature from the members on here even if it's tough love the priority is to give the next man solid advice to not get entangled with the wrong one for the sake of sanity.

A few of the kingpin players on here have been around long enough to break bread.

I'm still sharpening the blade as well because you never stop learning this sh1t and it's a very volatile dating market right now.
It's winter time and some of us want a good chick to relax with even if it's temporary
As you know, love has a nasty habit of disappearing over night.
A female will take you for what you got and you will not know what hit you if you ain't packed with the right gears that is why some of us have learned the hard way and can spot a flake/low interest woman from a mile away like a lion spotting a hyena with just a tint of smell.

In your current situation with this little number throw her a bone and give her some benefit of the doubt. Atleast she countered.
Set the date and If she flakes again then she most likely lied to you about that family member thing.
I would just ignore, delete her number and walk.
Wish you well and keep a cool head my man

 

[Harrison0409]

I hear you.
Don't get too caught up in the alpha/beta dynamic. Every man walks in his own shoes with a different limp but you can no doubt absorb wisdom regarding female nature from the members on here even if it's tough love the priority is to give the next man solid advice to not get entangled with the wrong one for the sake of sanity.

A few of the kingpin players on here have been around long enough to break bread.

I'm still sharpening the blade as well because you never stop learning this sh1t and it's a very volatile dating market right now.
It's winter time and some of us want a good chick to relax with even if it's temporary
As you know, love has a nasty habit of disappearing over night.
A female will take you for what you got and you will not know what hit you if you ain't packed with the right gears that is why some of us have learned the hard way and can spot a flake/low interest woman from a mile away like a lion spotting a hyena with just a tint of smell.

In your current situation with this little number throw her a bone and give her some benefit of the doubt. Atleast she countered.
Set the date and If she flakes again then she most likely lied to you about that family member thing.
I would just ignore, delete her number and walk.
Wish you well and keep a cool head my man

Thank you This is why I’m here for this kind of advice

 

[BackInTheGame78]

They are always sick. Always.
I'm never sick??

Sick is a catch all for sick, tired, long day at work and don't feel like getting ready, on her period, flake, etc.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Sick is a catch all for sick, tired, long day at work and don't feel like getting ready, on her period, flake, etc.

I've had girls who studied and worked full time, yet still found time to see me multiple times a week.

If a girl is interested, she will make the effort not bring up excuses.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I've had girls who studied and worked full time, yet still found time to see me multiple times a week.

If a girl is interested, she will make the effort not bring up excuses.

For the most part agree. But there are always exceptions

 

[KingTurbo]

If a woman cancels the date what’s the best coarse of action?Also is it a **** test? View attachment 9172

How did you ask her out, and where to? I need more details.

I would approach it like this.

“Been busy. Have Saturday free. I want to take you out to ABC Bar. Let’s have fun together and unwind, you’ll enjoy it.”

DECODED:
“Been busy. Have Saturday free.
Implies you're a busy, high value male.

I want to take you out to ABC Bar.
Direct "I want" statement and where. You lead her.

Let’s have fun together and unwind, you’ll enjoy it.”
Paints a picture in her imagination. Female Imagination is your secret weapon.

Women want a man to lead. Never ask her out where she wants to go and be at her every beck and call.

I would advise skipping dinner or movies as you cannot properly game a woman at those venues. As emotional beings, females see each part of the date as an experience with you. So going to a store, then bowling, and getting ice cream would give you more chances to make emotional connections. To you, it's one date. To her, it's three dates. It's called "Time Scrunching".

 

[RangerMIke]

Normal female behavior. Happens all the time. Just bottom line her action... assume she isn't interested and don't over react. In my experience it's about 25-75% 1 out of 4 are really interested and available and they come back around. The key to figuring out if she is the 1 out of 4 is to just tell her it's fine and tell her to let you know when she's available, but don't expect she will. She has to be interested and available otherwise she will not meet up with you.... she could be interested in someone else, or have a BF... if that changes and you don't act like a d1ck, she'll come around again. If she isn't interested, she is gone.

 

[Harrison0409]

I asked

How did you ask her out, and where to? I need more details.

I would approach it like this.

“Been busy. Have Saturday free. I want to take you out to ABC Bar. Let’s have fun together and unwind, you’ll enjoy it.”

DECODED:
“Been busy. Have Saturday free.
Implies you're a busy, high value male.

I want to take you out to ABC Bar.
Direct "I want" statement and where. You lead her.

Let’s have fun together and unwind, you’ll enjoy it.”
Paints a picture in her imagination. Female Imagination is your secret weapon.

Women want a man to lead. Never ask her out where she wants to go and be at her every beck and call.

I would advise skipping dinner or movies as you cannot properly game a woman at those venues. As emotional beings, females see each part of the date as an experience with you. So going to a store, then bowling, and getting ice cream would give you more chances to make emotional connections. To you, it's one date. To her, it's three dates. It's called "Time Scrunching".

When I bumped into her the first time I met her we hit it off.So I asked if she wanted to go for a coffee sometime.She replied yes and gave me her number.I waited a few days and messaged her to set up a time the day and location of the date.The morning of the date she had to something come up.

 

[KingTurbo]

I asked

When I bumped into her the first time I met her we hit it off.So I asked if she wanted to go for a coffee sometime.She replied yes and gave me her number.I waited a few days and messaged her to set up a time the day and location of the date.The morning of the date she had to something come up.

Understood. I don’t know, it just doesn’t make sense to me why she would.

If she isn’t investing just to meet you for twenty minutes for coffee she isn’t worth your time.

Idea: I would ignore her for about a week and then try again.

Idea 2, dark seduction:Just send her a pic of you and another girl. After you send it text her”Had a great time Lindsay.” Followed by “ops, wrong girl” a few minutes later. Then if she meets you spray a little perfume on yourself to get her imagination going hahaha!

 

[KingTurbo]

Been busy = I'm trying to show you that I'm high value

I want to take you out = I'm a provider, you can take advantage of me

Let's have fun = I'm trying to convince you that it's worth going out with me.

Overall message = beta

my opinion

I haven’t used it yet. how could it be improved. Shorter?

“I’m going out to ABC bar. I want you to join me”

 

[member160292]

On your date proposals be direct, get direct responses.
"Let's go to ABC bar Friday at 6PM"