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Cerwin Vega

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A friend of mine without an approved account is looking for advice (@Moti_Zayn_Bagadol)

I went on three dates with a girl I met on tinder, everything went really well, I broke the physical barrier by escalating on the first date. She doesn't speak much english, we communicate mostly with google translate and I speak her language to an extent.

Second date everything went very well we went bowling we were both very physically comfortable and touchy and making out, I suggested we go to mine she said it’s too early I respected it and everything went very fine.

She tried to break it off with me when we got home tho, texted me “everything is really good except the language barrier and she doesn't want a relationship based only on physical attraction”, I responded with only “I like you and want to see where this goes” she said actually ok let’s do that.

Third date I wanted to cool things down a bit, took her to a cafe and as always we did really well that she also kept complimenting me. Out of nowhere I asked her if I could walk her home wasn't even expecting anything her eyes sparked and she asked if I was sure I said yeah.

We walk home we make out in front if her door, she invites in; we make out for 4-5 hours and she keeps telling me she needs time to be able to get to next steps, I respected it but still teased her.

She finally unbuckled my jeans and I do her’s too, I started fingering her and she was really into it until she came. Then she held my wrist and told me to stop. We cuddled for a 15 mins then she tells me she’s getting sleepy and if it’s ok if I leave soonish.

I left and didn't think much of it, till she texted me telling me “she’s sorry this is not working and she doesn't feel it physically enough even tho she feels really good next to me” to which I responded with ok.

Now I want to contact her again cuz that statement doesn't match what I witnessed with her actions at all and I want us to give it one more try.

My question is, it's already been a week, how do I initiate it again?
 
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She has said she ain't interested. You only lower her attraction level for you by making any kind of contact. Move on.
 

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A friend of mine without an approved account is looking for advice (@Moti_Zayn_Bagadol)

I went on three dates with a girl I met on tinder, everything went really well, I broke the physical barrier by escalating on the first date. She doesn't speak much english, we communicate mostly with google translate and I speak her language to an extent.

Second date everything went very well we went bowling we were both very physically comfortable and touchy and making out, I suggested we go to mine she said it’s too early I respected it and everything went very fine.

She tried to break it off with me when we got home tho, texted me “everything is really good except the language barrier and she doesn't want a relationship based only on physical attraction”, I responded with only “I like you and want to see where this goes” she said actually ok let’s do that.

Third date I wanted to cool things down a bit, took her to a cafe and as always we did really well that she also kept complimenting me. Out of nowhere I asked her if I could walk her home wasn't even expecting anything her eyes sparked and she asked if I was sure I said yeah.

We walk home we make out in front if her door, she invites in; we make out for 4-5 hours and she keeps telling me she needs time to be able to get to next steps, I respected it but still teased her.

She finally unbuckled my jeans and I do her’s too, I started fingering her and she was really into it until she came. Then she held my wrist and told me to stop. We cuddled for a 15 mins then she tells me she’s getting sleepy and if it’s ok if I leave soonish.

I left and didn't think much of it, till she texted me telling me “she’s sorry this is not working and she doesn't feel it physically enough even tho she feels really good next to me” to which I responded with ok.

Now I want to contact her again cuz that statement doesn't match what I witnessed with her actions at all and I want us to give it one more try.

My question is, it's already been a week, how do I initiate it again?
Some girls do this to get off on the cheap, they're everywhere, the free loaders lol. This is why you don't make them cuum before you fuuck.

If you want to try again it has to be on your terms. Either she comes over to yours or you're not seeing her again.

Don't tell her that directly, but make it obvious with your actions. Tease her and only agree to plans at yours. If she's not sweet and playful quit chatting with her and focus on other women.

When she comes back around don't change the offer. That's it, that's the best use of your time if you're just trying to lay her without compromising your dignity.
 

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She´s a tease. She wouldn´t pull that stunt on Leo Dicaprio.
 

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Why did you use your fingers man? I know why, you wanted to make her finish taking care of her needs first instead of yours, you put emphasis on her pleasure only, leaving yours to last.
Nah...easiest way to get a woman from "we aren't fvcking" to "I want you inside me NOW!" if done right.

That's always been my go to move whenever I get LMR which isn't too frequently, but my fingers are undefeated so far.

OPs finger game needs work probably also.
 

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An update on this case:

On her birthday a few days ago I just wished her happy birthday and she continued the conversation.
I asked her out for lunch at my place and she accepted, right off the bat before she took her jacket off we started making out.
she then right away opened up and said she thought I’d never talk to her anymore and that she was getting over her breakup at the time and she cant easily replace ppl sexually.
then things easily escalated to sex!
idk what all this means but it means you miss all the shots you dont take and there’s also really not much logic involved with them, sometimesthey’re just not in the right place mentally.
 

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I went on three dates with a girl I met on tinder, everything went really well, I broke the physical barrier by escalating on the first date.
1. Three dates without sex is a lost cause.

Second date everything went very well we went bowling we were both very physically comfortable and touchy and making out, I suggested we go to mine she said it’s too early I respected it and everything went very fine.

She tried to break it off with me when we got home tho, texted me “everything is really good except the language barrier and she doesn't want a relationship based only on physical attraction”, I responded with only “I like you and want to see where this goes” she said actually ok let’s do that.
2. Her saying "too early" was sh~t test. And you failed it.

Third date I wanted to cool things down a bit, took her to a cafe and as always we did really well that she also kept complimenting me. Out of nowhere I asked her if I could walk her home wasn't even expecting anything her eyes sparked and she asked if I was sure I said yeah.

We walk home we make out in front if her door, she invites in; we make out for 4-5 hours and she keeps telling me she needs time to be able to get to next steps, I respected it but still teased her.
3. Wow, so she invited you into her place, yet no sex happened? At this point her IL in you dropped like a rapper's mic at the end of the beat.

She finally unbuckled my jeans and I do her’s too, I started fingering her and she was really into it until she came. Then she held my wrist and told me to stop. We cuddled for a 15 mins then she tells me she’s getting sleepy and if it’s ok if I leave soonish.
4. Jesus Christ! So you didn't penetrate her?

My question is, it's already been a week, how do I initiate it again?
5. Suggest she came over so you'll cook something together. If she follows through, then it's good. If she doesn't, stop contacting her.
 

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1. Three dates without sex is a lost cause.

2. Her saying "too early" was sh~t test. And you failed it.



3. Wow, so she invited you into her place, yet no sex happened? At this point her IL in you dropped like a rapper's mic at the end of the beat.


4. Jesus Christ! So you didn't penetrate her?

5. Suggest she came over so you'll cook something together. If she follows through, then it's good. If she doesn't, stop contacting her.
1) *Another stupid "rule" that needs to stop being bandied about on the forum.*

3) *Pretty much Getting to a certain point without going further is far worse than nothing at all happening many times. It becomes "awkward" after that for many reasons. No woman wants a guy that doesn't know how to close the deal. It's quite possibly the worst mistake men make. Thinking if you get them to take their clothes off without sex that it will just happen "next time". It's far more likely that you never see her again in reality.*

5) *Equivalent of throwing up a Hail Mary with not much chance of completing it but nothing wrong with a last ditch try*
 
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1. Three dates without sex is a lost cause.



2. Her saying "too early" was sh~t test. And you failed it.



3. Wow, so she invited you into her place, yet no sex happened? At this point her IL in you dropped like a rapper's mic at the end of the beat.



4. Jesus Christ! So you didn't penetrate her?



5. Suggest she came over so you'll cook something together. If she follows through, then it's good. If she doesn't, stop contacting her.
Did you even read the update?
 

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An update on this case:

On her birthday a few days ago I just wished her happy birthday and she continued the conversation.
I asked her out for lunch at my place and she accepted, right off the bat before she took her jacket off we started making out.
she then right away opened up and said she thought I’d never talk to her anymore and that she was getting over her breakup at the time and she cant easily replace ppl sexually.
then things easily escalated to sex!
idk what all this means but it means you miss all the shots you dont take and there’s also really not much logic involved with them, sometimesthey’re just not in the right place mentally.
It means you struck when the iron was hot.
 

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This **** is funny and a good example of why abundance is so important.. You settled for a girl who told you basically shes getting over her ex, basically telling you that you're only going to be a rebound/... at first she used her better judgement and thought about it like damn iam i really jus gonna use this guy to get over my ex.. maybe thast not healthy.. but u egged it on and she gave u some *****.. now ur probably gonna be all into her, but as soon as that ex comes back into her life, you're dropped like you never existed. and even if her ex doesnt come back, she'll use u to get over him and toss u out.. because no one wants to remember the guy who they f-ed to get over their ex lol

P.s when girls pick rebounds they purposely pick guys they know they wont have feelings for (sorry to break it to ya lil bro). doesn't mean you're ugly or anything just means that she needs to be able to erase the memory after she tosses u out and not develop feelings so she picked u instead of some guy who might actually win her heart
 

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I mean if he doesnt care, its free pu.ssy for however long it lasts. The sad reality is, alot of women who arent just single or into casual sex usually only look at Tinder when they need to rebound anyways. Though some of the other stuff mentioned made it seem like shes still with her "ex" and they might just be going through something right now.
 

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Nothing worse than 304s going to Tinder for "healing".
right on. most non 304's at least have the healthy conscientious to know that using a guy for "healing" or to rebound is not right.
 
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