Women & manipulation

[Bigpapa]

Clara Chia Marti “Hooked Up” With Another Guy to Manipulate Gerard Pique After He Tried to Get Back Together With Shakira

This is one of the headlines lately

Things happen even if you are a very good looking guy and successful . This sh1t here were people expect women to be submissive or whatever … never really happens in real life , especially if she is above average in looks

Apparently now they plan to have a child together lol

 

[Bokanovsky]

Who?

 

[Bigpapa]

Who?

Gerard Piqué - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

He is the former husband of shakira

 

[Dr.Suave]

I believe there are submissive girls out there, but its less than 1%

 

[Bigpapa]

Gerard pique in terms of everything is at the very very top : very good looking, pro athlete at the very top , very successful , very smart ( has an mba from Harvard ) , very good family , has his own business in media & sports that is very successful

And yet … women try to manipulate him ( even those under his smv )

Gerard pique would be a catch for any woman on the planet , no matter how amazing she is . This is his level

If he is a solid 10 , he girl in question is a 7 maybe an 8 if she puts the effort and with way less pedigree than him in anything … but she still tries to manipulate him and most likely is some sort of a drama queen as well

What I wanted to pinpoint is that women do this kind of sh1t to all men , no matter how amazing they are ( at least on paper )

 

[Bigpapa]

I believe there are submissive girls out there, but its less than 1%

I just do not think that there are really submissive women all the time

I think that they know very well how to play the game , and mainly are submissive when it suits them to be like that

 

[logicallefty]

I agree with @Bigpapa and @Dr.Suave. I think there are a small percentage of submissive women but they are extremely hard to find. Even some of them that are acting submissive are only doing it because they get something out of it.

Back in the “50s” when women were more submissive, even then, I don’t think a lot of them were doing it because they wanted to. I think they were doing it because they had no other choice. The men back then would not tolerate anything else. If the women wanted to eat and have a roof over her head she had to submit to a man.

Nowadays they have other options so their true colors are coming out. That is, until their SMV currency expires in their late 30s and 40s. Then they may go back to being submissive somewhat, but not as women in rhe 1950s were. But just barely enough to hook a man who is willing to tolerate them. Because they have no other choice. They can’t get free stuff from men anymore because of their looks. They realize that they suck at managing money and working three gas station jobs is no fun. Life has kicked them in the t\/\/at enough that they realize that they are not as independent as they once bragged that they were. They realize that as the world falls apart men are pretty good to have at their side because they are too weak to go at it alone.

 

[Robert28]

The problem is famous people like this guy aren’t dating everyday plane Janes, they’re always dating and marrying famous people like themselves. Those types of women are NEVER going to submit because their social status is the same.

 

[Bigpapa]

The problem is famous people like this guy aren’t dating everyday plane Janes, they’re always dating and marrying famous people like themselves. Those types of women are NEVER going to submit because their social status is the same.

This girl is normal from this point of view

Just a normal woman that is above average in looks

 

[Bigpapa]

I agree with @Bigpapa and @Dr.Suave. I think there are a small percentage of submissive women but they are extremely hard to find. Even some of them that are acting submissive are only doing it because they get something out of it.

Back in the “50s” when women were more submissive, even then, I don’t think a lot of them were doing it because they wanted to. I think they were doing it because they had no other choice. The men back then would not tolerate anything else. If the women wanted to eat and have a roof over her head she had to submit to a man.

Nowadays they have other options so their true colors are coming out. That is, until their SMV currency expires in their late 30s and 40s. Then they may go back to being submissive somewhat, but not as women in rhe 1950s were. But just barely enough to hook a man who is willing to tolerate them. Because they have no other choice. They can’t get free stuff from men anymore because of their looks. They realize that they suck at managing money and working three gas station jobs is no fun. Life has kicked them in the t\/\/at enough that they realize that they are not as independent as they once bragged that they were. They realize that as the world falls apart men are pretty good to have at their side because they are too weak to go at it alone.

I do not think that it has to do with what men would accept or not in the 50s or earlier

It was more or less about the punishment associated with this kind of behavior

But adultery and stuff like that happened all the time . Read all the 1800s French writers . Most of it is about adultery and stuff

But most likely this happened mainly because
French culture was relaxed towards this , compared to other cultures who were not

Sexual liberation firstly happened in France in the 1800s

 

[BadBoy89]

Back in the “50s” when women were more submissive, even then, I don’t think a lot of them were doing it because they wanted to. I think they were doing it because they had no other choice. The men back then would not tolerate anything else. If the women wanted to eat and have a roof over her head she had to submit to a man.

Good points. That and the laws.

Women have always been the same. Their biology and thinking doesn’t change because of the time period. It’s the laws and customs of that time period that dictates how they behave.

Nowadays they have other options so their true colors are coming out. That is, until their SMV currency expires in their late 30s and 40s. Then they may go back to being submissive somewhat, but not as women in rhe 1950s were.

Another good point.

 

[Bigpapa]

The problem with women getting old is not as bad as we like to think

They will still find a guy in their 40s who is 60 or 70that would happily date them

A guy who is 40 , unless he is high value , will not find almost anyone willing to date him

 

[Bigpapa]

If I were him, I would date better women, super models or girls like Anna Zak for example. Shakira is a 7 max.

Based on how she dances , I am quite sure that she is amazing in bed

Very likely bad sex with a 10 , or amazing sex with a 6-7 ?

Tough call man

Good sex with a woman is not easy , amazing sex is even more difficult to find

But for sure what it was between Shakira and pique was love . She was already a star when they started dating and he was just a promising footballer . Most likely even now she has more money than him

Shakiira for sure had a positive impact in his life from angles

 

[Bigpapa]

Bad sex with a 10, no brainer man.
I had my best orgasms with the girls I was the most attracted to, not the ones that were "good" in bed.
Sex is something that happens between your ears, now down there.

Dunno man , for me is a very tough call

 

[member159871]

He may be a 10, but he has married Shakira. If I were him, I would date better women, super models or girls like Anna Zak for example. Shakira is a 7 max.

But yeah, I wish I were him.. life is not fair ehhh.

Anna Zak lol, you just revealed my high school flashback. Used to have a big celeb crush on Anna Zak

 

[characternote]

Bad sex with a 10, no brainer man.
I had my best orgasms with the girls I was the most attracted to, not the ones that were "good" in bed.
Sex is something that happens between your ears, now down there.

i'm personally with you here, although I accept lots of guys will have a very different opinion. Personal preferences i guess

Even with my semi decent laycount now, i'm not even sure I can really tell a girl who is 'good' in bed vs one who is average. Maybe it needs quantifying more lol. (I guess we're saying a girl is 'bad' in bed if she just lies there though?)

But yes, I like sex the best when it's with a girl who is just way out of my league. Her 'skills' are kind of irrelevant. The first time this happened (quite a while ago now, but actually when I was new to game) it was with some super hot teenager way younger than me who i considered completely and utterly out of my league. I enjoyed the sex a tonne, although i'm guessing guys would say she wasn't 'good' (again, i'm not entirely sure how we're defining this. Good at bl0wjobs? dirty talk? In terms of riding d1ck and stuff, not only do most girls seem similar, it (her technique) is almost negligable in terms of how much I actually enjoy it!)

 

[Bigpapa]

I enjoyed the sex a tonne, although i'm guessing guys would say she wasn't 'good' (again, i'm not entirely sure how we're defining this. Good at bl0wjobs? dirty talk? In terms of riding d1ck and stuff, not only do most girls seem similar, it (her technique) is almost negligable in terms of how much I actually enjoy it!)

It means that you never experienced it

Trust me , when you will experience it , you will know

 

[Bigpapa]

There is no such thing as "bad sex", unless it's physically painful or you can't come for whatever reason.

Bad sex is when you are the only putting the effort

Dunno about you , but to me the idea to put a lot of physical effort to bang a woman is not that appealing . I would rather do something else with the energy most of the time … unless I am horny or for some reason I want to bang that particular girl a lot ( rarely happens these days though )

There are girls that just hypnotize while in bed with them , and time just flies and next thing you know 2 days passed

P8ssy is p8ssy man , once you fulfill your fantasies ( in your cases beautiful women ) you will not find just p8ssy that interesting anymore

Same thing with money . Once you have them , you are not that willing to do anything to get them

 

[characternote]

What makes someone "amazing" in bed, according to 9 guys

DW, they don't just say "deep throating" over and over.

www.cosmopolitan.com

I've had all of those things. To me personally though, it's just not that relevant to how much I enjoy sex compared to how hot the girl is.

I don't think there's a right or wrong. Personal preference for lots of things varies. I remember the 'post your 10' thread and some guys were posting girls i'd honestly rather not have have sex with lol. This preference carries over in this instance where guys like me and mikedee get more enjoyment from teh girl being hot than from her being 'good' in bed

 

[The Diver]

There is no such thing as "bad sex", unless it's physically painful or you can't come for whatever reason.

Oh, there's definitely, lousy sex.
That is when she tells you: " don't do this, don't do that", don't touch here, don't touch there", don't talk like this, don't talk like that."
Vanilla sex in its best.

Close mind girl, primarily due to strict upbringing or past traumas. ( yes, there are cases of pain due to some biological issue, but that is not what I'm talking about)