Women & manipulation

[Bigpapa]

Oh, there's definitely, lousy sex.
That is when she tells you: " don't do this, don't do that", don't touch here, don't touch there", don't talk like this, don't talk like that."
Vanilla sex in its best.

Close mind girl, primarily due to strict upbringing or past traumas. ( yes, there are cases of pain due to some biological issue, but that is not what I'm talking about)

Or because she thinks is entitled and feels that yoj banging her is enough , so she does not put the effort

 

[member159871]

Ideally I want a 10 who is good in bed.
But if I have to choose between beauty and skills, I'll go with beauty.

Same here, I’d rather sleep with 100 models who are decent in bed than 200 average looking girls who are amazing in bed, though I’d like to sleep with both.

 

[member159871]

What makes someone "amazing" in bed, according to 9 guys

DW, they don't just say "deep throating" over and over.

www.cosmopolitan.com

I've had all of those things. To me personally though, it's just not that relevant to how much I enjoy sex compared to how hot the girl is.

I don't think there's a right or wrong. Personal preference for lots of things varies. I remember the 'post your 10' thread and some guys were posting girls i'd honestly rather not have have sex with lol. This preference carries over in this instance where guys like me and mikedee get more enjoyment from teh girl being hot than from her being 'good' in bed

These kinda girls are my personal 10

https://instagram.com/sam_kiri__?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Gerard pique in terms of everything is at the very very top : very good looking, pro athlete at the very top , very successful , very smart ( has an mba from Harvard ) , very good family , has his own business in media & sports that is very successful

And yet … women try to manipulate him ( even those under his smv )

Gerard pique would be a catch for any woman on the planet , no matter how amazing she is . This is his level

If he is a solid 10 , he girl in question is a 7 maybe an 8 if she puts the effort and with way less pedigree than him in anything … but she still tries to manipulate him and most likely is some sort of a drama queen as well

What I wanted to pinpoint is that women do this kind of sh1t to all men , no matter how amazing they are ( at least on paper )

None of that means he may not be a giant POS. None of that stuff really matters day to day...in the overall picture sure, but if a person is terrible to be around that shine wears off really quickly.

Or else you decide to put up with it until one day it just isn't worth it and you bounce

Same thing with guys with hot chicks.

 

[Bigpapa]

None of that means he may not be a giant POS. None of that stuff really matters day to day...in the overall picture sure, but if a person is terrible to be around that shine wears off really quickly.

Or else you decide to put up with it until one day it just isn't worth it and you bounce

Same thing with guys with hot chicks.

Ywah

The summary of what I was trying to say is that no matter how amazing you are … women would still be women and do what women do

Women trying to bullsh1t you is just a given fact , so guys improving because they think that women will treat them better is a waste of time . Maximum that it will happen is that they will live a better life and they might have access to higher tier women than currently . And that’s about it

Rest is manosphere bullsh1t . “ would she treat you like this if you were brad Pitt ? “ - yeah , she would

Guys just have to accept women for what they are , not trying to change the woman nature . It rarely happens or goes well

And women in their 40s and 50s would still have more options that most men ( young or old )

The wall is just a bullsh1t invented by the manosphere to make losers feel better about themselves . Coping mechanism

“ you might not like me in my 20s , but just wait and see in 30 years from now . Haha “ . And 30 years from now that woman would still have more options at any time than that guy in his 20s waiting for her to hit the wall ever did in his whole life

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Ywah

The summary of what I was trying to say is that no matter how amazing you are … women would still be women and do what women do

Women trying to bullsh1t you is just a given fact , so guys improving because they think that women will treat them better is a waste of time . Maximum that it will happen is that they will live a better life and they might have access to higher tier women than currently . And that’s about it

Rest is manosphere bullsh1t . “ would she treat you like this if you were brad Pitt ? “ - yeah , she would

Guys just have to accept women for what they are , not trying to change the woman nature . It rarely happens or goes well

And women in their 40s and 50s would still have more options that most men ( young or old )

The wall is just a bullsh1t invented by the manosphere to make losers feel better about themselves . Coping mechanism

“ you might not like me in my 20s , but just wait and see in 30 years from now . Haha “ . And 30 years from now that woman would still have more options at any time than that guy in his 20s waiting for her to hit the wall ever did in his whole life

Options do not equal good options tho. I could have lots of low quality ground beef but if I want a high quality T-bone steak none of that helps.

 

[Bigpapa]

Options do not equal good options tho. I could have lots of low quality ground beef but if I want a high quality T-bone steak none of that helps.

For sure more better options than most guys

 

[TheGambino]

Gerard pique in terms of everything is at the very very top : very good looking, pro athlete at the very top , very successful , very smart ( has an mba from Harvard ) , very good family , has his own business in media & sports that is very successful

And yet … women try to manipulate him ( even those under his smv )

Gerard pique would be a catch for any woman on the planet , no matter how amazing she is . This is his level

If he is a solid 10 , he girl in question is a 7 maybe an 8 if she puts the effort and with way less pedigree than him in anything … but she still tries to manipulate him and most likely is some sort of a drama queen as well

What I wanted to pinpoint is that women do this kind of sh1t to all men , no matter how amazing they are ( at least on paper )

Why do you think Chris Brown, Usher, Ray J. Top tier RnB singers with, rock solid 10s have whole albums with emotional songs about women and being all lovey dovey, afc songs about their exs. Once a woman loses respect for her man, she complies and becomes masculine and bitchy but hot women that date these singers have 10000000 options so they also next and manipulate these top 10 guys. So also Chad and Chris Brown get rejected/manipulated all the time by hot women that they showed weakness too.

Because they date women with high smvs also.

 

[Bigpapa]

Why do you think Chris Brown, Usher, Ray J. Top tier RnB singers with, rock solid 10s have whole albums with emotional songs about women and being all lovey dovey, afc songs about their exs. Once a woman loses respect for her man, she complies and becomes masculine and bitchy but hot women that date these singers have 10000000 options so they also next and manipulate these top 10 guys. So also Chad and Chris Brown get rejected/manipulated all the time by hot women that they showed weakness too.

Because they date women with high smvs also.

Prince Harry and Meghan markle another great example

He might not be a 10 like pique , but for sure he is above average in terms of looks and his status is just at the very top

He started dating a tier 3-4 actress that is not even that good looking . She is like a 6 , maybe a 7 if she is nicely dressed and with good makeup . But overall , she is not more than a 6 ( not great face , not great body - she just does not have anything about her that is great in terms of looks )

Same thing

Meghan Markle 'More Dominant Than Prince Harry'

"He looks like a guy that almost can't believe his luck."

www.google.com

I do not agree that it is a matter of the woman smv necessarily , it is a matter that all women regardless of age or looks tend to behave and think the same

 

[TheGambino]

Prince Harry and Meghan markle another great example

He might not be a 10 like pique , but for sure he is above average in terms of looks and his status is just at the very top

He started dating a tier 3-4 actress that is not even that good looking . She is like a 6 , maybe a 7 if she is nicely dressed and with good makeup . But overall , she is not more than a 6 ( not great face , not great body - she just does not have anything about her that is great in terms of looks )

Same thing

Meghan Markle 'More Dominant Than Prince Harry'

"He looks like a guy that almost can't believe his luck."

www.google.com

I do not agree that it is a matter of the woman smv necessarily , it is a matter that all women regardless of age or looks tend to behave and think the same

They are always looking for the best deal in smv.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

For sure more better options than most guys

Realistically maybe, but in their mind most don't think so. In fact some women get so frustrated with dating they just quit for several months or a year or more.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

They are always looking for the best deal in smv.

Honestly I think most women are just looking for a guy who isn't a loser these days because that's the majority of the guys out there.

 

[Bigpapa]

Realistically maybe, but in their mind most don't think so. In fact some women get so frustrated with dating they just quit for several months or a year or more.

They never take time off from dating because they are always approached one way or the other

“I am not looking to date right now “ is just a polite way to say “ I am not interested “ or “ just try harder stupid “

 

[BackInTheGame78]

They never take time off from dating because they are always approached one way or the other

“I am not looking to date right now “ is just a polite way to say “ I am not interested “ or “ just try harder stupid “

Nah, not always. There are legit women who stop dating.

 

[Bigpapa]

I don't think they stop dating on purpose, they take a break because there are no "good" options available.

But even then man … it never happened to sleep with a girl only because she is bored and anything better is not around ?