What is it about women?

[Who Dares Win]

Men feel disgust toward promiscuous women while women feel disgust toward weak men.

Bigger chances for her to forgive you for cheating than forgiving you for decreasing your spending possibilities.

Anyway it also depends on age, the older women are the less emphatetic and able to keep a bond with you...mother nature made us a great service by making them become uglier and uglier with age so we are not tempted to invest in them.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Plenty of women date bum ass guys.

Alpha seeds, beta provide her needs...

It is like I just mentioned above (https://shorturl.gg/ly5) down to pure biological level on how our DNA is encoded.

We humans are stupid enough to think (and like/favor that idea too), that we are in the driver seat of our own body, but clearly in reality the brain and the DNA encoding really is the driver of the bus. We´re just passengers along for the ride.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Men feel disgust toward promiscuous women while women feel disgust toward weak men.

Exactly.

mother nature made us a great service by making them become uglier and uglier with age so we are not tempted to invest in them.

Which partly protect us men's survival strategy of securing our children is 1.) ours and 2.) is strong and healthy etc..

 

[RickTheToad]

Over the years I've seen many times where women became upset, disappointed, or uninterested when a man became sick, lost his job, injured, etc when it effected them.

It's happened to me with two different women. I get bad migraines that knock me out for a day and cause me to vomit. In one case the chick accused me of drinking too much. I was with a group of her friends and I guess it embarrassed her. I had only one drink, headache started before then.

Another chic assumed that my headache would ruin our plans later that evening,so she got upset.

One other time in my life I quit my job and took a month off before I started my new job and women I would meet were quick to turn me down because of my job situation. Always amazed me.

A man is always expected to be understanding of women and their constant issues (headaches, emotions, periods) yet men are not afforded the same. Why is that? Why do men tolerate so much from women?

If they have issues with your medical stuff, please, show them the door expeditiously. You want a female who will be there for you when you are not at 100%. You are not a computer, you are human. For your migraines, consider checking with a neurologist for Botox injections, Ajovy and Nurtec RXs. All are covered under insurance and help immensely. I too suffer from migraines.

 

[RickTheToad]

I know someone that was burning out at work and had a fiance at the time. He wanted to quit and she basically told him "no" because they had a house together. His mom told him "she doesn't care if you burn out because she knows she can just find a new guy"...

Would had walked from her and the home. What's the point in working to keep a home if you die from a heart attack for the support? Dudes need to put themselves first... Always.

 

[RickTheToad]

This is reality, my friend. The only thing a woman loves unconditionally is her own biological son. (They don’t even love their daughters- see them as competition). Everyone else is conditional love at best.

Doubtful on this. I know many females that would love to have a daughter.. Not sure how it is in the black community, but white and Hispanic, nope.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Doubtful on this. I know many females that would love to have a daughter.. Not sure how it is in the black community, but white and Hispanic, nope.

Thats cap. You never noticed mothers prefer their sons? Never seen mother-daughter jealousy? Never seen single mothers with a manipulative guilt-ridden grip on their daughters?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Doubtful on this. I know many females that would love to have a daughter.. Not sure how it is in the black community, but white and Hispanic, nope.

Women have daughters but highly narcissistic women of all ethnicities can potentially develop a competitive issue with their daughters. If the daughter is going much further than her in life, some have a competitive anxiety gets triggered and the mother goes out to destroy her using all of her resources possible to protect her ego. If you read up on the women's side of thing this story comes up over and over again and women have to cut their mothers off and get them out of their lives. It's not all women, but it's enough women to be concerned about.

 

[RickTheToad]

Thats cap. You never noticed mothers prefer their sons? Never seen mother-daughter jealousy? Never seen single mothers with a manipulative guilt-ridden grip on their daughters?

No, can't say I have. Again, must be a black thing.

 

[RickTheToad]

Women have daughters but highly narcissistic women of all ethnicities can potentially develop a competitive issue with their daughters. If the daughter is going much further than her in life, some have a competitive anxiety gets triggered and the mother goes out to destroy her using all of her resources possible to protect her ego. If you read up on the women's side of thing this story comes up over and over again and women have to cut their mothers off and get them out of their lives. It's not all women, but it's enough women to be concerned about.

I've never seen this. I've seen many mother's care a great deal about their daughter's in the clinics. When I've had the unfortunate responsibility to tell the parents they're daughter hasn't made it; the mother, not the father is the one who's balling out crying profusely.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No, can't say I have. Again, must be a black thing.

……. This is biological software. Race has nothing to do with it. Mothers view their own daughters as competition.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I've never seen this. I've seen many mother's care a great deal about their daughter's in the clinics. When I've had the unfortunate responsibility to tell the parents they're daughter hasn't made it; the mother, not the father is the one who's balling out crying profusely.

The story pops up over and over again. A very successful kind and positive woman whose doing well shared her story with me and it was similar. Her mom was a narcissist. And as she developed into a woman her negative and better mom tried to destroy her. It broke her heart but she had to separate herself. Her life flourished once she was able to get away from her. I have another female contact similar story. Her mom was of the beauty and popularity style of narc. As this young girl started growing into a young woman, she was very pretty and had tons of admirers. It was causing her mom pain to know it, and it got so bad they could no longer live in the same space. It's a lot of weird sh1t on this earth. Also one of my exes similar story. Mom tried to kill her more than once and plenty of abuse.

 

[DonJuanjr]

The story pops up over and over again. A very successful kind and positive woman whose doing well shared her story with me and it was similar. Her mom was a narcissist. And as she developed into a woman her negative and better mom tried to destroy her. It broke her heart but she had to separate herself. Her life flourished once she was able to get away from her. I have another female contact similar story. Her mom was of the beauty and popularity style of narc. As this young girl started growing into a young woman, she was very pretty and had tons of admirers. It was causing her mom pain to know it, and it got so bad they could no longer live in the same space. It's a lot of weird sh1t on this earth. Also one of my exes similar story. Mom tried to kill her more than once and plenty of abuse.

You'd think they'd be happy seeing their biological imperative being fulfilled with optimal genes in their offspring...

 

[RickTheToad]

……. This is biological software. Race has nothing to do with it. Mothers view their own daughters as competition.

The story pops up over and over again. A very successful kind and positive woman whose doing well shared her story with me and it was similar. Her mom was a narcissist. And as she developed into a woman her negative and better mom tried to destroy her. It broke her heart but she had to separate herself. Her life flourished once she was able to get away from her. I have another female contact similar story. Her mom was of the beauty and popularity style of narc. As this young girl started growing into a young woman, she was very pretty and had tons of admirers. It was causing her mom pain to know it, and it got so bad they could no longer live in the same space. It's a lot of weird sh1t on this earth. Also one of my exes similar story. Mom tried to kill her more than once and plenty of abuse.

Nothing would surprise me these days..

 

[The Duke]

Women have little tolerance these days for any sort of emotional discomfort.

A man who loses a white collar job and has a girlfriend is likely to lose his girlfriend as well prior to him finding a new job. A typical white collar job search takes 3-10 months post layoff. No woman at the girlfriend stage is going to stick around for a white collar man for 3-10 months during a job search unless his net worth is minimum $500,000, but more likely $1 million+. The girlfriend of a guy who is a tattooed dirtbag and works some blue collar/manual labor type job is more likely to stick around through a layoff, and those laborer/non-white collar job searches also take less time. The tattooed dirtbag type is more likely to give the woman some vaginal tingles than the typical white collar guy, who is more likely to base his game off of his employment. Additionally, the type of woman who dates a tattooed dirtbag laborer guy is somewhat different than the woman who dates a white collar male.

A wife will stick around longer than a girlfriend during periods of unemployment but not that much longer. Plenty of married men have been served divorced papers after a layoff.

As for sickness, the simple answer is "it depends". Depends on the condition and recovery. Women don't want to be inconvenienced for more than 2-4 weeks in the girlfriend stage.

@Howiestern -- Why were women giving you shiit about taking a month off in between jobs? That's utterly insane. You had a new job secured and could fund your lifestyle for that month. You weren't actually unemployed.

I think because many women have been told all sorts of stories about why Guy X had no job that they just assume the worst to protect their personal interests. I was lumped in that same category with out much thought.....simple minds. They all seek providers on some level.

 

[Barrister]

Good post, OP.

Another interesting thing I have found is that despite this being the truth about women, women who I have been in a relationship with have wanted, even begged me before to share my problems with work, other family members and friends, etc. with them. They have wanted me to “be open” with them because “they want me to rely on them” or “let them into my life in every way.”

What I have found that is that generally as soon as I tell them about that problem at work I am having or the fact that I am losing touch with a friend and it is bothering me, they almost always become more distant after. It’s like clockwork. I have simply stopped ever talking to my women about my problems. I always handle it on my own, never speak about it except in very passing terms if it’s unavoidable, and leave it at that. There is some innate biological switch that gets flipped in women as soon as you mention your problems and it’s never a good thing.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Good post, OP.

Another interesting thing I have found is that despite this being the truth about women, women who I have been in a relationship with have wanted, even begged me before to share my problems with work, other family members and friends, etc. with them. They have wanted me to “be open” with them because “they want me to rely on them” or “let them into my life in every way.”

What I have found that is that generally as soon as I tell them about that problem at work I am having or the fact that I am losing touch with a friend and it is bothering me, they almost always become more distant after. It’s like clockwork. I have simply stopped ever talking to my women about my problems. I always handle it on my own, never speak about it except in very passing terms if it’s unavoidable, and leave it at that. There is some innate biological switch that gets flipped in women as soon as you mention your problems and it’s never a good thing.

Yep; from that on they start seeing you as weak/weaker and not that solid rock of security and stability which they once believed in prior to that talk. women love to express and talk about their feelings, then only issue with that is that they are not really interested in hearing about men's issues as that removes their image and feelings of that her man is that strong man that she can rely on.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Good post, OP.

Another interesting thing I have found is that despite this being the truth about women, women who I have been in a relationship with have wanted, even begged me before to share my problems with work, other family members and friends, etc. with them. They have wanted me to “be open” with them because “they want me to rely on them” or “let them into my life in every way.”

What I have found that is that generally as soon as I tell them about that problem at work I am having or the fact that I am losing touch with a friend and it is bothering me, they almost always become more distant after. It’s like clockwork. I have simply stopped ever talking to my women about my problems. I always handle it on my own, never speak about it except in very passing terms if it’s unavoidable, and leave it at that. There is some innate biological switch that gets flipped in women as soon as you mention your problems and it’s never a good thing.

There is nuance to this. It is fine to show some struggle with your adversity as long as it is related to your purpose. They also like if you give them instructions on how to help you to with that struggle. Women like being your secretary, your help, your first officer, etc.

What turns them off is struggles with interpersonal stuff. Those are feminine problems. She doesn’t want to hear about your family drama, other girls hurting you, or anything that paints you as a loser in the eyes of others (such as male friends or coworkers).

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Only their sons. Single mothers manipulate, hate, and ultimately destroy their own daughters (due to competition and resentment).

I have seen this play out with every woman I have ever dated, including the girl I am seeing now. It is plainly obvious that they have a lot of resentment and they often try to guilt and shame them for living their lives. The worst ones try to guilt, sabotage, and control them any way they can. Most of the women I have dated have even readily admit to this and literally said to me, "Mothers have strange relationships with their daughters due to jealousy and resentment." They usually don't say "competition" but that is obviously what it is.

On the other hand, the few women I have dated who have male sons literally live and die for them. The more psychologically unhealthy the woman is, the more she tries to mold her son into her vision of her ideal romantic partner, and the more she tries to pull affection and attention out of the child to meet her own black-hole void of emotional neediness. No man can fill that void so she hopes he can mold her son until the person that will. I'm not suggesting she wants to sleep with her son - she does separate out the sexual part of romance from her relationship with him, but all the other parts are there. When this happens, you can see how aloof the sons become to their mothers - mothers are supposed to give love to their children, not take it from them.

Another interesting thing I have found is that despite this being the truth about women, women who I have been in a relationship with have wanted, even begged me before to share my problems with work, other family members and friends, etc. with them. They have wanted me to “be open” with them because “they want me to rely on them” or “let them into my life in every way.”

What I have found that is that generally as soon as I tell them about that problem at work I am having or the fact that I am losing touch with a friend and it is bothering me, they almost always become more distant after. It’s like clockwork. I have simply stopped ever talking to my women about my problems. I always handle it on my own, never speak about it except in very passing terms if it’s unavoidable, and leave it at that. There is some innate biological switch that gets flipped in women as soon as you mention your problems and it’s never a good thing.

100% accurate. I have learned this the hard way, and David Deida actually writes about this a lot. Women want men for their strength. If we show we are struggling with anything, we immediately lose value in her eyes and she feels she cannot depend on us anymore. I have seen this in my relationships and have learned that we are on our own here. Your woman is the LAST person to turn to for support in your struggles. I have lost women in the past over this and learned my lesson. You will get accused of "not letting me in" or "not being vulnerable" but trust me, that minor frustration she directs at you pales in comparison to what will happen if you give her what she is asking for. Yet another example of where women don't know what they want. Part of RP is knowing what women want better than they do, and this covers many areas.

There is nuance to this. It is fine to show some struggle with your adversity as long as it is related to your purpose. They also like if you give them instructions on how to help you to with that struggle. Women like being your secretary, your help, your first officer, etc.

What turns them off is struggles with interpersonal stuff. Those are feminine problems. She doesn’t want to hear about your family drama, other girls hurting you, or anything that paints you as a loser in the eyes of others (such as male friends or coworkers).

Agree here too - though I will say only the really good women want you to give them instructions on how to help you, but you are completely right in that it's usually task-related things - like "what can I take off your plate to help you so you can focus on solving this problem."

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

In general I agree with the consensus that stoicism is the default 99% of the time around even good women worth the long haul. In these cases you can show “weakness” twice a year - like every 6 months. I quoted “weakness” because what you show is for THEIR benefit not yours - everyone has heard about maintaining a ratio of beta to alpha traits I believe it’s like 1:9 or even smaller but that’s me. The reason you do this is so that she can feel you’re being “genuine” with her - she can brag to her friends how “sensitive but masculine and strong” you are.

My take is never use a genuine weakness - make one up - make it easy and chick friendly and simple, something easily “recovered from”. She gets her warm and fuzzies and gets her validation that you’re really a great guy. That helps relationships with women, sad but true.

I’ve known men who were in top shape, mid forties - animals, good earning, smart, fun good looking that had hot gf’s in ltrs that had a setback like a torn rotator cuff and the chick dumps him. And don’t let it ever be anything like prostrate benign or not - don’t tell them you’re on SSRIs or SNRI’s, bp meds, diabetic - NOTHING.

A woman’s brain stem overrides their logic and personal experience and 1000 years ago when the man showed weakness he stood a high chance of dying and exposing her to mayhem, this is genetic memory, again this is real guys.

You have to wear a mask in a relationship if you want it to last. I thought once that I could let my guard down with “the one that got away”, I’d held frame for years and let things bleed through because she was THE ONE, of course she’d get it! I paid for that eventually. ONE MOMENT OF WEAKNESS (job related ****). It’s all it takes brothers.

I hope that if even one of you takes this information and succeeds where I failed this post was worth it.

There is nuance to this. It is fine to show some struggle with your adversity as long as it is related to your purpose. They also like if you give them instructions on how to help you to with that struggle. Women like being your secretary, your help, your first officer, etc.

What turns them off is struggles with interpersonal stuff. Those are feminine problems. She doesn’t want to hear about your family drama, other girls hurting you, or anything that paints you as a loser in the eyes of others (such as male friends or coworkers).