I believe us older guys should stop bullsh1tting the younger ones

[zekko]

I don’t know about that bro. I had way more girls in my 20s too. I had no idea what game or anything was back then, and girls would stick their tongue down my throat no problem,

As I said before, maybe this isn't true for guys who peaked when they were younger. Meaning, for guys who were very successful when they were younger, maybe they don't have room to improve in that area (with women). But for guys who struggled early on, maybe they were late bloomers or it took them longer to "get it" or whatever.

I had girlfriends when I was younger, but I knew I wasn't a top guy. I had friends who girls pursued, and I didn't get the reaction they did. I was too skinny for one thing. And then I found weight lifting, but it took me a few years to build my body up. I was able to turn my life around in other ways also, so where I was originally behind I started having successes. By the time I got into my 30s, things were starting to pay off for me. So for some of us it takes longer, I guess.

 

[Plinco]

I approach 30 this year and have gotten better every single year in my twenties. The reason most older guys I have witnessed struggle with women, especially younger women, is because they are unrelatable. Some dude in a red pill circle who thinks that society is screwed, hates mainstream music, hates partying, looks down on whatever is cool with social media, feels that we should go back to the old days, and sees younger people as a part of a spoiled generation is not going to pull a hot sorority girl that is bubbly, parties hard, loves mainstream music and is into social media.

Problem is that older doesn't usually mean wiser, it means bitter for most men. Most older guys get into this stage where they are bitter, easily moodly, egotistical, entitled, and not willing to adapt. There is the "Hollywood" older which is a fit celeb who looks cool and then there is the typical older which is your suburban dad looking out of place. If you go to any big city, you will see older guys up to their 40s pulling but most of the times? They fit seamlessly in with the younger crowd.

A big part of this is also vibes. Most older guys get bitter as shown by this thread and so they project that outwards to the world. Most women rather be broke and get with some dude making way less than having to deal with that. Good luck convincing these guys of that though.

This is an interesting observation. I always said the key is self-respect. Not being bitter is kind of on the other side of that.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I approach 30 this year and have gotten better every single year in my twenties. The reason most older guys I have witnessed struggle with women, especially younger women, is because they are unrelatable. Some dude in a red pill circle who thinks that society is screwed, hates mainstream music, hates partying, looks down on whatever is cool with social media, feels that we should go back to the old days, and sees younger people as a part of a spoiled generation is not going to pull a hot sorority girl that is bubbly, parties hard, loves mainstream music and is into social media.

Problem is that older doesn't usually mean wiser, it means bitter for most men. Most older guys get into this stage where they are bitter, easily moodly, egotistical, entitled, and not willing to adapt. There is the "Hollywood" older which is a fit celeb who looks cool and then there is the typical older which is your suburban dad looking out of place. If you go to any big city, you will see older guys up to their 40s pulling but most of the times? They fit seamlessly in with the younger crowd.

This is 100% true...

A big part of this is also vibes. Most older guys get bitter as shown by this thread and so they project that outwards to the world. Most women rather be broke and get with some dude making way less than having to deal with that. Good luck convincing these guys of that though.

That's where the "red pill" junk is a fail... "red pill" should only be a temporary place until you figure out how things really go and adapt your own style to have better outcomes.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I approach 30 this year and have gotten better every single year in my twenties. The reason most older guys I have witnessed struggle with women, especially younger women, is because they are unrelatable. Some dude in a red pill circle who thinks that society is screwed, hates mainstream music, hates partying, looks down on whatever is cool with social media, feels that we should go back to the old days, and sees younger people as a part of a spoiled generation is not going to pull a hot sorority girl that is bubbly, parties hard, loves mainstream music and is into social media.

Problem is that older doesn't usually mean wiser, it means bitter for most men. Most older guys get into this stage where they are bitter, easily moodly, egotistical, entitled, and not willing to adapt. There is the "Hollywood" older which is a fit celeb who looks cool and then there is the typical older which is your suburban dad looking out of place. If you go to any big city, you will see older guys up to their 40s pulling but most of the times? They fit seamlessly in with the younger crowd.

A big part of this is also vibes. Most older guys get bitter as shown by this thread and so they project that outwards to the world. Most women rather be broke and get with some dude making way less than having to deal with that. Good luck convincing these guys of that though.

How are you able to "hang" with the younger crowd without diminishing yourself? How are you able to do it without being the "old guy in the club"? Your fashion choices must be on par and your vibe somewhat what they were doing.

I will say something about the millineals and younger. They actually evaluate advise from their elders and will use it and take the advantage vs some later generations who were more hard headed.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

How are you able to "hang" with the younger crowd without diminishing yourself? How are you able to do it without being the "old guy in the club"? Your fashion choices must be on par and your vibe somewhat what they were doing.

I will say something about the millineals and younger. They actually evaluate advise from their elders and will use it and take the advantage vs some later generations who were more hard headed.

1. Look good
2. Look stylish
3. Don't be bitter
4. Be in touch with their music and scene

 

[BadBoy89]

I approach 30 this year and have gotten better every single year in my twenties. The reason most older guys I have witnessed struggle with women, especially younger women, is because they are unrelatable. Some dude in a red pill circle who thinks that society is screwed, hates mainstream music, hates partying, looks down on whatever is cool with social media, feels that we should go back to the old days, and sees younger people as a part of a spoiled generation is not going to pull a hot sorority girl that is bubbly, parties hard, loves mainstream music and is into social media.

Problem is that older doesn't usually mean wiser, it means bitter for most men. Most older guys get into this stage where they are bitter, easily moodly, egotistical, entitled, and not willing to adapt. There is the "Hollywood" older which is a fit celeb who looks cool and then there is the typical older which is your suburban dad looking out of place. If you go to any big city, you will see older guys up to their 40s pulling but most of the times? They fit seamlessly in with the younger crowd.

A big part of this is also vibes. Most older guys get bitter as shown by this thread and so they project that outwards to the world. Most women rather be broke and get with some dude making way less than having to deal with that. Good luck convincing these guys of that though.

I would say most younger guys are bitter and angry, The guys in their teens and 20s, if they are not alpha men, they usually don’t get the hot women. But the time the get mature and rich and want them, the hot women have been used up by the genetically blessed men. Society encourages women to do it too and thats where they get their anger from.

For older guys, if they have any money or look, they should be able to sleep with a girl in 45 minutes of meeting them, Any time spent with a girl more than that, let’s the man gets bored.

When a man is younger, he values and values and values the hot girls, as trained by society. When he is older, he doesn’t care at all at all.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I would say most younger guys are bitter and angry, The guys in their teens and 20s, if they are not alpha men, they usually don’t get the hot women. But the time the get mature and rich and want them, the hot women have been used up by the genetically blessed men. Society encourages women to do it too and thats where they get their anger from.

For older guys, if they have any money or look, they should be able to sleep with a girl in 45 minutes of meeting them, Any time spent with a girl more than that, let’s the man gets bored.

When a man is younger, he values and values and values the hot girls, as trained by society. When he is older, he doesn’t care at all at all.

It is a different kind of bitterness though. I'd say younger men are more frustrated than bitter, it's more short-term and goes away after a wank or talking to a girl. Older men are genuinely bitter and hopeless about life itself.

 

[SexManiac]

No. This is simping for women. It's like getting breast implants.

Jack your mind first.

Getting jacked should be for personal health reasons and self defence. Not for women.

I don't agree.
What you are outside is what you are inside
If I give you 1 billion of dollars, your mind will change in a second, the way you feel will change, your cognitive pattern will change because the environment and the context define us, society of 21st century define us, you weren't the same if you were born in 1492, either the same in 1300 AC. Don't change your ****ing mind, change the outside. Change the way people perceives you not the way you perceive yourself. There is nothing to change inside the mind
Increase Your SMV and approach girls and when you start getting laid then your mind will change automatically.

Remember this phrase:
""We don't change our minds, the environment changes us"",
Sex Maniac

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

I dunno about this original post. I totally disagree that you can't build attraction. Women literally respond to how good looking you think u r. Negs work on attractive women based on how attractive they think they are.

Studies have shown women pay more attention to survival qualities and personality than looks.

If you want to believe you are good looking then everyday list all the things that you think are attractive in your head. The bad things you should reframe with the positive silver lining. I started doing this like 2 weeks ago and I'm already getting good results and my body language has changed. I know this because ice heard multiple women at my work talk about the way I walk in the last 2 weeks.

I have horrible posture, wear a mask, and am short fat and bald and I think I'm an 11. Try it