Why is it so much harder to get matches on bumble or tinder

[FlexpertHamilton]

The first pic what is up with her hips? They seem awfully wide compared to her torso. When she hits 30 shes going to be pretty hefty around the waist with that type of build.

??? Are you gay? That's what a real woman's body looks like.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

You're probably shadow banned for signing up for a new account too quickly. A couple years ago Tinder started shawdow banning if you delete your account and sign up within 30 days with the same cell number.

You either have to wait at least 30 days or get a different cell number. This has been posted on here and in many articles.

I do notice the swipe apps they give you less swipes before you have to pay for the upgrade versions of them.

I know that. I made an account in bluestacks with a VPN. It always starts out good then the matches become really inconsistent.

 

[Epimanes]

First two profiles I see on Tinder when I opened the app: (note the second one is verified)

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Of course it's nearly impossible to march with girls that hot, but at least they're there so you can try if you want.

Meanwhile in my experience on Hinge or POF a HB7 is top 5% but it's easier to get matches and conversations.

Bumble is the same as Tinder for me. OKC is like those two but to a lesser extent, it's like right under them.

First two profiles I see on Tinder when I opened the app: (note the second one is verified)

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Of course it's nearly impossible to march with girls that hot, but at least they're there so you can try if you want.

Meanwhile in my experience on Hinge or POF a HB7 is top 5% but it's easier to get matches and conversations.

Bumble is the same as Tinder for me. OKC is like those two but to a lesser extent, it's like right under them.

Fake profiles..... 100%

 

[biggoal]

I know that. I made an account in bluestacks with a VPN. It always starts out good then the matches become really inconsistent.

Did you try the photo verified option? After about 48 hours it lets you get the blue checkmark.

 

[DonJuanjr]

100% accurate. I would like to add that even if he were doing in-person approaching, that mug isn't doing him any favors. That mug + autistic tendencies + bad demographics = no vagina

You got the equation wrong... Its That mug + autistic tendencies + bad demographics + ego/pride = no vagina

He could get pusssy if he lowered his standards, but he's one of those guys that only dates 10s, but gets no pusssy. Look at his negative reaction to the bikini pic, dude put up on the fist page.

 

[Black Widow Void]

I’ve seen you post your pic here before and I don’t think anyone here has the heart to tell you. It’s always going to be difficult for you online with that mug of yours.

I’ve seen dudes of his appearance actually pull women in. We all have. Your above comment sure sounds like a scorned/catty woman to me.

If Biggoal can rattle him like this… can you imagine his composure with an actual female?

Women getting under our skin, I get it. But Biggoal getting under your skin to the point is venting? This seems kind of weird to me.

You just come across as odd and obsessive.

I’d wager that we’d rather read about a man’s obsessiveness over a female, than your obsessiveness over a male forum member known as Biggoal.

 

[DonJuanjr]

potentially even other men just signing up with female accounts and banning men.

Genius! @Zimbabwe start reporting dudes left and right.

 

[Black Widow Void]

Biggoal has been sending me long, rambly private messages for months asking my advice on the most bizarre things I've ever seen in my life. It came outta nowhere. I had to stop replying to him. But the messages kept coming.

The dude has powerful autism. But it can be used for good, like navigating swipe app bans and stuff. Guy is a classic internet terrorist. I know a few guys like this and they usually make great computer hackers.

Is the ignore function not working? Or would that eliminate your obsession with biggoal?

 

[biggoal]

Dude, this is the data you should be contributing to the forum. How to bypass swipe app bans. We are all suffering from this. I personally get banned on a 3-monthly cycle and I'm positive now that it's a combination of fat women c0ck blocking me, and potentially even other men just signing up with female accounts and banning men.

The reason I suspect this is because I know a few guys who absolutely spam the apps, but they never get banned. I think there are only 2 types of guys who get banned on apps - extremely disagreeable, combative guys, and extremely desirable guys. Normal guys don't get banned (and I suspect this is because they are supporting the simp economy).

Your app-ban data is actually useful. Would you care to give a breakdown, or make a new thread, on your best method for easily overcoming the app bans?

Match LLC now owns Tinder. When they bought it a few years ago that's when they started this shadow banning stuff, needing to upgrade to get more swipes etc. They also took features away features on Match and POF as well.

Match and most OLD sites are a paying business. They're in the business of making money so hence they're trying to figure ways out to get men to shell out more cash.

Notice match for example they try to sell you stuff like for an extra 9.99 a month you can message anyone on the site, meaning if they have a free account they can still get your message.

I'm sure there are guys who are spending $300 a month on dating apps, boosts and other silly add ons.

 

[devilkingx2]

Absolutely. Have you tried that Black Premium account on Tinder? I have.

You're getting absolutely mugged if you're not paying for the apps now. Your profile isn't getting shown to anyone. Algorithms etc. You know how it goes.

Yeah most of these apps are barely even worth using without their BS subscription. Thankfully the Tinder one isn't ridiculously priced like the ones that are $30-35 a month. (Hinge, Bumble, etc.)

Some of the features are cool, interesting or useful though.

 

[biggoal]

Absolutely. Have you tried that Black Premium account on Tinder? I have.

You're getting absolutely mugged if you're not paying for the apps now. Your profile isn't getting shown to anyone. Algorithms etc. You know how it goes.

What is black premium? I haven't paid for Tinder since before Covid. It seems the business model is pay for premium so you can see likes.

But then you still gotta pay to get boosted on these OLD sites which is additional money on top.

it could be they're desperate for cash.

Remember not long ago the US government filed suit against Match LLC. Hence they're probably looking for any means possible to bring in more revenue because of it.

 

[biggoal]

It's like the highest level of membership with Tinder. You are literally pig-in-sh1t at this level if you're like me. I mean, dude, you should even look into it - I can at least show you how to meet women off the apps. That's the most important first step. Actually getting the meet-up. But I need a good ban solution. I'm a lazy bastard and every time I get banned I get lazier about starting a new profile. I need an easy and quick solution. And I need someone who understands the apps from a deep perspective (someone like you and I'll pay in either cash or dating advice).

Look at it this way, you're saving money on dates. The speed-to-sex of apps is so efficient that I'd happily pay 1 thousand dollars + per month in exchange for full access and no bans. If any of you dudes want to make some money and build me a ban-proof app system then PM me. I'm looking at you @biggoal

This is my only issue, and it only started happening in the past 2 years. The frequent bannings. And I know the banning is dodgy because I am actually very polite on the apps. Whereas 2+ years ago I was way more experimental and used to troll people for fun, and never got banned.

If you're paying over 1 grand a month wouldn't it be better to just use a higher end escort that's better looking that most of the stuff on Tinder? No swiping and you get to the point "sex" and saves time.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Location apps you have to use judiciously. Only swipe when you change location. I only used bumble and tinder to great affect while traveling. They work fantastically.

In your home location the app will get stale in a couple days.

 

[biggoal]

Just to clarify man. You don't pay 1K a month for Tinder Black. What I said is that I would happily pay 1K per month for full access on all the apps - that's how efficient it is for me. It's hypothetical. I think tinder black is around 50 per month? I've been off Tinder about 3 months so I'll have to see.

With the Tinder black do you think they still bump you down lower in the deck after awhile?

I also wonder, if you delete Tinder, sign up with a new number, and then reconnect your paid membership do they trace that to the old number and also shadowban you that way?

last time I paid for Tinder you could delete your profile, make a new one and still get your paid features.

 

[EyeBRollin]

With the Tinder black do you think they still bump you down lower in the deck after awhile?

I also wonder, if you delete Tinder, sign up with a new number, and then reconnect your paid membership do they trace that to the old number and also shadowban you that way?

last time I paid for Tinder you could delete your profile, make a new one and still get your paid features.

Tinder doesn’t work because you live near fatties and grannies

 

[biggoal]

Tinder doesn’t work because you live near fatties and grannies

What age do you consider grannie? I went on a OLD date with a 49 yr old who looked good.

 

[biggoal]

Black does not protect you at all from bannings. In fact, a horrible situation you may find yourself in is paying for a black membership, and then banned the next day. It does happen.

The solution I've found that works, but is a pain in the a$s is - new photos, new number, new apple ID, new phone (unsure, but to be safe), new credit card (apparently tinder tracks your payment details), reset your wifi IP address.

You can see why I've been off tinder for 3 months.

That seems like wasted money and a lot of trouble to go through.

I don't understand this shadow ban stuff. As long as you're paying for the membership they should let you delete and make new accounts as often as you like.

All these sites are just money grubs.

 

[biggoal]

I believe the apps have fortress-like perma banning for 1 simple reason.

If you are good at the apps, you literally potentially have access to every woman in the world. This is extremely dangerous for the Top Men who don't want unapproved outsider men getting laid. Women typically sign up to apps, stay a few days, and then leave. You have tiny windows with most of them.

I suspect that they are tying to build a world where dating and meeting women is only possible via apps, and once they have us on lockdown then they will just completely ban people permanently who they don't want having access to the dating market.

The reason we are still allowed to access women on apps now is that the elite men are still in the process of normalizing internet dating. Remember 10 years ago? Internet dating was taboo.

We are entering a very dangerous new phase of dating. I suspect we will be banned by law from approaching women in real life. You will only be able to do it via apps. To get the app you must have had 12 boosters. Seem feasible?

I can guarantee you it's coming.

What would explain why the last 2 years the quality of women are way down on the apps? I work at a grocery store. Even here in FL which has older demographics the women I see at teh grocery store or when I'm out to eat look far better than the stuff on Tinder.

I work with a lot of 17-23 year old girls. None of them are on the dating sites.

 

[biggoal]

It could be your location. I’m in Sydney and absolutely surrounded by beauties. I can go from a stroll down Bondi beach and see literally 100’s of 10s.

What I’ve noticed has dramatically changed is access. It’s both harder to access hot women. And if you can access them it’s much harder to seduce them.

It’s all down to thirst, man. Combined with top men running interference and making it hard. Women are getting fatter too because of body positivity - but these are usually women that are lower status anyway. There are still a lot of women who take care of themselves out there.

Most places in the world are not Bondi Beach though. That's why you see 100s of hotties, plus I'm sure a major tourist attraction helps too.

 

[biggoal]

That’s why I live here.

Sharks congregate at river mouths for the same reason ;-)

I went to the beach for lunch 2 weeks ago. The water was still cold being FL and late Feb, but the air temp was about 80 at the beach. No one in the water but it was packed. However, only saw two hotties. Most were retired age folks and the usual whales mixed in.