Chasing sex is still chasing women. (Long vent)

[Hamurabimbi]

I'm kinda tired of PUA's ranting about the "don't chase women" schtick, clearly they don't live by it and are mostly unattractive dudes speaking on the fact.

PUA’s should be unattractive.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm kinda tired of PUA's ranting about the "don't chase women" schtick, clearly they don't live by it and are mostly unattractive dudes speaking on the fact. If you chase sex, you chase women. If you're unattractive, women won't initiate anything, you have to make the first and last moves to even get her to clock you, and she can easily lose interest and bail and find someone that's checks most of her boxes in this women privileged dating environment. The tactics of "don't chase" don't work in a dating environment where everything is so fast, women have bottomless pitt of options, and will ghost you over saying one thing slightly wrong.

You stop texting her, someone else will text her.
You stop initating dates, someone else will initiate dates.
You stop f*cking her , someone else will give her the d*ck.

A woman can be highly attracted to you and still do these things because of pride. They all have too much pride (and options) . Ignoring her for several days and calling it "not chasing", doesn't make guys different from the rest of the men she's talking too, women will lose interest and forget your name in a second. I had a woman I met at a smoothie shop a year ago who insisted on giving me her number after striking up a conversation about a infamous painter we both liked, I thought me texting her a week later and keeping it brief would give me more mystique (idiot of me) and she completely forgot my name, where we met, what we were talking about, and I think she got scared and blocked me.

Everything is more nuanced than PUA'S claim, Men and women aren't one dimensional. They are investing in women, or getting escorts and braggin about that . Its misleading.

It's not that. They ALL have one or two guys they would break their neck trying to get to. Be one of those guys, not one of her "fluffers" or azz kissers or one of the rest.

 

[mattinzane]

A woman can be highly attracted to you and still do these things because of pride. They all have too much pride (and options) . Ignoring her for several days and calling it "not chasing", doesn't make guys different from the rest of the men she's talking too, women will lose interest and forget your name in a second. I had a woman I met at a smoothie shop a year ago who insisted on giving me her number after striking up a conversation about a infamous painter we both liked, I thought me texting her a week later and keeping it brief would give me more mystique (idiot of me) and she completely forgot my name, where we met, what we were talking about, and I think she got scared and blocked me.

I don't think it's a good idea to wait more than 1 day to text/call and try and schedule a meet up. The way I see it is the idea of waiting several days and being busy is for after you met up with her and had a good time. If she won't meet up with you then she isn't really interested in you and just wants your attention for her own ego, so next her. Here's one of the best videos I have seen on the subject......https://youtu.be/bTmchdITGHw

 

[Barrister]

I have had women before who will NEVER reach out unless I reach out first. And these are high interest women I end up getting sex from. I used to be one of the guys that firmly believed that a woman will always pursue if she is high interest and would write them off quickly if I didn't see some of this pursuit from them. I have since reversed course on this due to experience. (Granted - I do think MOST women will show some pursuit if they are high interest - but it is certainly not a hard and fast rule).

Some women, no matter how high interest, will expect the man to reach out and won't do so. So this "waiting X days after the date" to text is just playing mind games with YOURSELF. Don't go down the path of getting too enamored with rules or bright line tests for gauging interest.

 

[Velasco]

I have had women before who will NEVER reach out unless I reach out first. And these are high interest women I end up getting sex from. I used to be one of the guys that firmly believed that a woman will always pursue if she is high interest and would write them off quickly if I didn't see some of this pursuit from them. I have since reversed course on this due to experience

Good. This is what I'm talking about.

Experience > what guru X says.

 

[Barrister]

Good. This is what I'm talking about.

Experience > what guru X says.

I have literally never listened to a single "guru" out there - outside of a single read of RM by Rolo. My RP journey has been solely experienced here on SS.

I will say that the rules do help guys with less experience understand women - because usually they do hold water when it comes to female behavior. But they also can cause you to overthink certain situations - and some women will fall outside of their application.

 

[Velasco]

But these days, from the time you meet the girl, it's pretty much tonight, tomorrow, or never.

Good. Another one talking from experience. However I am not sure about "never" these days if you are not able to meet up with her the day after you tried to fvck her. Due to the sexual unavailable principle. She may not have been down that night and the following night she is not down either. So you go a couple days without texting. Maybe couple weeks. Then you hit her up with "what u doing tonight?" And see what's up. Maybe her sexual availability situation has changed. But you won't know if you just delete her number, write her off as "low interest", when she can't meet up with you the day after the first encounter.

I've had too many girls swerve and then suddenly be DTF the next time I hit them up

Yup. I scrolled further down yeah. Correct.

no one's consistently bagging hot <22 y/o girls without dealing with a lot of flakiness

They just write them off as low interest.

unless they're pulling them for SNLs, which is usually the way to go if logistics allow

Yup. But there is still stigma around high SMV/quality/whatever girls don't sleep with guys the same night they met them. You'll have to go on multiple dates with them.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I'm starting to think this site is useless. There's so much opinion that the only way to figure shjt out is to just do it.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Maybe couple weeks. Then you hit her up with "what u doing tonight?"

And if she still doesn't show interest that night, do you try again, or write her off?

 

[Velasco]

And if she still doesn't show interest that night, do you try again, or write her off?

If she's not down that night? Keep it brief. Another week or two of no contact. When I get home later I'll write up an example

 

[Bigpapa]

If she's not down that night? Keep it brief. Another week or two of no contact. When I get home later I'll write up an example

also the girls that like you a lot are also the girls that it is the most difficult to sleep with , as they put you to work for it and also to get to know you better in the process

have you ever seen how girls for example go through profiles on old ? If they like what they see , then They start reading all your bio , and only then they swipe right

 

[Don Dark Horse]

Still angry bc I’ve been calling out your annoying incel ****. I’ve been in two relationships lasting less than a year. I’m 24, I still have plenty of learning to do and time to go. I pray to the lord, I don’t become as angry, bitter, and as lonely as you’re to the point where I spend all of my life on this forum and cat fishing as women on tinder like a f*g then bragging about it. Lame f*g. I still pity you.

guy be calling Z an incel smh..

how can you expect to hold frame with a girl when you cannot do so on an anon forum?

 

[Don Dark Horse]

I'm starting to think this site is useless. There's so much opinion that the only way to figure shjt out is to just do it.

When you are scared to do something is exactly when you should do it. Not wait until your brain makes up a logical reason not to.

 

[Velasco]

When I get home later I'll write up an example

here

 

[Striker_93]

also the girls that like you a lot are also the girls that it is the most difficult to sleep with

I disagree, the easiest pvssy you will ever get will be from a girl who likes you.

 

[Bigpapa]

I disagree, the easiest pvssy you will ever get will be from a girl who likes you.

it is somehow straightforward , but overall takes more time than with girls that are somehow interested

this happens because the more a girl likes you , the more she wants you to be invested in her too

 

[Striker_93]

it is somehow straightforward , but overall takes more time than with girls that are somehow interested

Well based on my personal experience, there generally pretty easy, almost too easy lol.

The ones who make you "work" for it are the ones with low interest, women that like you don't make it hard for you, thats the truth.

But we can agree to disagree

 

[darksprezzatura]

Many women I know are fickle.

Their feelings, actions or thoughts towards us change at the drop of a hat.

Even if you're an ultra good looking super wealthy guy, this behaviour is consistent.

Match interest levels (and less) and let the chips fall as they may.

 

[fastlife]

She may not have been down that night and the following night she is not down either. So you go a couple days without texting. Maybe couple weeks. Then you hit her up with "what u doing tonight?" And see what's up.

Lol we're running the same playbook

 

[Konada]

Typical feminine behavior is to receive. The male penetrates and the female receives. A relationship can only function properly if the male leads and the female follows, at least that is what I've found in my experience.

The problem is western influence has masculinized females too much they forget their true nature. A woman initiating a date is not normal behavior, they may give you signals, but they won't take the reigns.

Its almost effortless and natural that a relationship functions properly if you follow this rule.

Your job as a man is to initiate and allow her to follow. Don't be a b!tch when she refuses to follow, it just means she does not respect you enough and she is not fit for your world.