In Group Female Promiscuity is natural

[Pandora]

Dude. Of course women enjoy sex. But only with men they are attracted to (which isn't many) and usually on an exclusive basis.

Women who love getting fvcked by anybody are rare, and they are almost never hot.

I'm not saying they fukk anyone. I am saying that in small group dynamics...like the ones we come from....they tend to be more promiscuous than we think. They fuc many of the men in the group. Again the term homie hopper is a thing. It's not called alpha hopper.

Also people have key parties and swinger parties fairly routinely. You telling me that every guy there is an alpha?

I assume you went to college right? Did you know how many girls in the dorm were passed around like joints?? These guys were certainly not alphas. You ever heard of a fire house slut? I used to volunteer for a fire house..trust me it's real. We get so stuck on this alpha nonsense. Newsflash guys women don't just smash alphas.

I am also saying that men in pre agricultural society's then to be non possessive about female sexuality.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I've often asked why more red pill men don't move to Saudi Arabia or other such countries because of this. Nobody seems to want to despite them living in the "good old days" so many dudes here get hard-ons for.

It's a bit like asking "why don't people who enjoy winter sports move to Antarctica"?

 

[Pandora]

I was trying to think back to see if this happened, and it's true...there were girls in the social circle that at least hopped from one guy to another, but more in a longish-term thing (for college). Like one girl fukked a friend of mine for a bit, then started fukking and dating another mutual friend, they were buddies and didn't care as far as I could tell. Just a couple of dopey stoners having fun. Happened with a few girls/guys. Everybody got theirs. Obviously in high school it happens because you're in a bubble. The older you get the more segmented your circles become. Of course there were always other chicks from outside the social circle as well.

Personally I steered clear and fukked more outside my circle, not sure why.

Exactly this is what I am saying. These days it's alot less common because of Tinder etc. Women can fuc outside of their social group now.

But naturally women will smash multiple dudes in their social circle. None of them alpha lol. This is completely normal. This is the way we did it for thousands of years! This is why there is that common joke of your kid " looking like your best friend". The best friend smashed your girl is such a common storyline. I promise you that you would be surprised with how many times your girl thought about smashing your friends. They are not the angels we think they are.

And like you said most dudes don't care if it's within a social group. We get conditioned to care by society pedestalizing the female. If we lived in a group of 150 people that chick that smashed everyone would just be another female member of the clan. We would protect her etc.

 

[Bokanovsky]

You can ski in Colorado. Everyone bytches about the feminism etc. and the West, but there are at least a couple of dozen countries that offer pretty serious patriarchy. Virgin brides. Strong religious values. Heavy handed laws. Most men would rather bytch than go.

Yeah but not everything in life revolves around women. Other factors play a role in choosing where you want to live, wouldn't you agree? And I can give you a hundred reasons (entirely unrelated to women) as to why living in Saudi Arabia would be suboptimal.

 

[Pandora]

Dude I missed this. Great comment. This goes to the heart of the issue.

I never mention this because people invariably think I'm crazy.

Most of what we think we know, including stories of our history, are TOTAL fabrications. It's insane and scary to think about how history is constantly re-written to serve agenda and power systems today.

They will attempted to tell us that neanderthal man lived in transgender gay societies soon. I promise you.

How is it fabrication when you can go study these populations and people do? Please explain.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Our dna suggests we had more female ancestors then male because men had multiple wives, so women were mostly monogamous while men had multiple wives.

Only a pathetic Cuck would want to share his wife

 

[Bokanovsky]

Agreed. I guess my point is we can't have it both ways. You need a pretty harsh church/state apparatus with penalty of death or torture to get people in line with sexual repression.

Not really. You just need the kind of society that existed in Western Europe and North America prior to the 1960's. No penalty of death or torture was necessary to maintain a functional, family-oriented society.

 

[Pandora]

Very very easy to manipulate these things.

Unless you were there yourself, you have no idea what was observed or recorded.

As a guy who knows Game, and who knows how to lie to women to get laid. You should know this.

Bruh so every anthropologist that studies these people is lying? They have written dozens of books on these types of people from various organizations. Many of these organizations don't even like each other but they still all agree that tribal people are non monogamous. You can see these people ON VIDEO explaining their sexual habits. How much more evidence do I need. Just say you don't want to believe that pre agricultural man is non monogamous lol. You desperately want it to be true that tribal people ( where we evolved from) are monogamous.

I can give you at least 5 books from different decades all agreeing that tribal people's are non monogamous but yet you will still argue lol. Wow

 

[Plinco]

Not really. You just need the kind of society that existed in Western Europe and North America prior to the 1960's. No penalty of death or torture was necessary to maintain a functional, family-oriented society.

The expression of human nature changes over time. From roughly 1780 to 1960 people were very 'civilized'

Here's a video about that:

 

[Pandora]

Here's a little experiment. Go to your wife, if you have one, and tell her you've been fcking other women. And then explain to her it's okay because we used to do it in tribes and apparently monkeys also do it.

I don't understand the point of what to you are saying.

Here is my little experiment on monogamy...it's called the mess we are in now. How is that monogamy working out for us? It's working out really well right with 60% divorce rate. Women cheating at 50% rate and initiating divorce at 80%. How about that little experiment.

 

[Bokanovsky]

How is it fabrication when you can go study these populations and people do? Please explain.

Did you personally go out to study "these populations"? Or are you relying on some book or journal article written by someone you know nothing about? I mean, all sorts of nonsense gets published these days.

 

[Pandora]

Our dna suggests we had more female ancestors then male because men had multiple wives, so women were mostly monogamous while men had multiple wives.

Only a pathetic Cuck would want to share his wife

There were no wives ( not in the Western sense of the word) back then bro. You could fuk who you wanted. She could also fuc who she wanted. Research sexuality in Native American tribes

 

[Pandora]

Correct.

Here's what happens I think. Guys who can't get laid fantasies about a world where all women are receptive to them. Hence, promiscuous slvtty female nature has HUGE appeal to betas. Another reason why simps are destroying the world.

Guys who have seen the freakiest side of females know that they ain't chaste. It's the guys who can't get laid that still have illusions of them being good girls.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I've often asked why more red pill men don't move to Saudi Arabia or other such countries because of this. Nobody seems to want to despite them living in the "good old days" so many dudes here get hard-ons for.

Can't speak for others, but personal defense is paramount. I refuse to live in a society where I can't have an even playing field in regards to defending myself. Criminals have firearms, so I will have firearms.

 

[Pandora]

There are many, many anthropologists who have been cancelled. Your wikipedia-approved anthropologists are as credible as Greta Thunberg is.

Yet you still have not listed one anthropologist that agreed with you. This is because you never really researched the topic. You are just speaking from your personal opinion. Have you even ever read a book on pre agricultural sexual practices?

Now you are going to go Google anthropologist that agree with you lol. Up until now you never even read one book on the topic. Yet you are arguing so vehemently lol. Come on man.

 

[Plinco]

Yet you still have not listed one anthropologist that agreed with you. This is because you never really researched the topic. You are just speaking from your personal opinion. Have you even ever read a book on pre agricultural sexual practices?

Now you are going to go Google anthropologist that agree with you lol. Up until now you never even read one book on the topic. Yet you are arguing so vehemently lol. Come on man.

I will say this, promiscuous societies are either not advanced or do not stay advanced historically speaking.

 

[Plinco]

Pandora is Indian.

In that case he should know if he studied history; India has gone through the whole civilization cycle a long time ago

 

[Pandora]

In that case he should know if he studied history; India has gone through the whole civilization cycle a long time ago

Yeh im black. I will research India though. Thanks

 

[Pandora]

I will say this, promiscuous societies are either not advanced or do not stay advanced historically speaking.

I agree. I'm not arguing if they advanced or not. I am saying this is what we are fundamentally. We spent most of our time as this. We come from small tribal units that were very laid back on sexual regulation. This is why we are having such a hard time with monogamy and civilization.

Now you are 100% right that they are not " advanced" technologically. But i am of the school of thought that we were more happy as hunter gatherers than we are now. There is alot of evidence for this.

 

[Pandora]

Check out robert sepehr - he's a somewhat mainstream but unorthodox anthropologist. There's plenty more but he's a gateway.

He can be your introduction into the world of anthropology actually being a hotly debated and contested topic. Not at all agreed upon with consensus.

You know how you're lied to about Santa? Yeah, same thing.

Haha i bet you just looked him up. No way I'm buying that you ever looked up Pre agricultural sexual practices before this thread or you would have referenced his studies earlier. Nice try though. I will however check him out.