Attraction & Wealth

[SmoothSmooth]

don't forget the pool boy

the pool boy Chad thing doesn’t really happen in the real world…go and ask any pool boys if they’ve actually got laid through their job
Now ask a doctor or pilot if they’ve got laid through their job

if a woman cheats on a rich man with a broke man, it’s always the rich man’s fault (ie he became needy, was beta af, a simp, she wanted revenge, he became weak etc)….what woman wants a social downgrade?!

broke men do not consistently get laid with attractive women…unless they are beta providers offering marriage/security…or unless the broke guy is exceptional in some way (ie very handsome, ripped, with very good social skills etc…) but this is less than 5% of men so it’s negligible…don’t focus on extremes…or people who are obviously genetically blessed
Plus the genetically blessed Chad would still get 10x more girls if he was rich which proves my point…plenty broke Chads are banging 5’s and 6’s to prevent dry spells

there is a reason broke men envy rich men…much more than ugly men envy handsome men…
There is a reason men don’t care about plastic surgery or makeup…
There is a reason men risk their life in crimes…
There is a reason why men care about investing, crypto etc more than women
There is a reason why upscale clubs are 90% filled with hot women…and ghetto clubs are 90% filled with ugly women…
Money, real money ($500,000+), is the greatest social asset for men…u need to flaunt the money indirectly by flexing the lifestyle

 

[zekko]

the pool boy Chad thing doesn’t really happen in the real world…go and ask any pool boys if they’ve actually got laid through their job. Now ask a doctor or pilot if they’ve got laid through their job

It did happen with Hulk Hogan's first wife. But I agree with your point.
And by they way, I've always said I'd prefer money over women. It's far more useful.

 

[metalwater]

the pool boy Chad thing doesn’t really happen in the real world…go and ask any pool boys if they’ve actually got laid through their job
Now ask a doctor or pilot if they’ve got laid through their job

if a woman cheats on a rich man with a broke man, it’s always the rich man’s fault (ie he became needy, was beta af, a simp, she wanted revenge, he became weak etc)….what woman wants a social downgrade?!

broke men do not consistently get laid with attractive women…unless they are beta providers offering marriage/security…or unless the broke guy is exceptional in some way (ie very handsome, ripped, with very good social skills etc…) but this is less than 5% of men so it’s negligible…don’t focus on extremes…or people who are obviously genetically blessed
Plus the genetically blessed Chad would still get 10x more girls if he was rich which proves my point…plenty broke Chads are banging 5’s and 6’s to prevent dry spells

there is a reason broke men envy rich men…much more than ugly men envy handsome men…
There is a reason men don’t care about plastic surgery or makeup…
There is a reason men risk their life in crimes…
There is a reason why men care about investing, crypto etc more than women
There is a reason why upscale clubs are 90% filled with hot women…and ghetto clubs are 90% filled with ugly women…
Money, real money ($500,000+), is the greatest social asset for men…u need to flaunt the money indirectly by flexing the lifestyle

I do talk to different pool boys occasionally.

money is for sure a thing. putting a number on it is location-based and thinking inside the box. .01% is different based on location. to further support your point, I know for sure that usually men with 10m or more do not geomax but are already doing that same thing in the location they start in. they will pull the type of women they like already if they are in the .01%. 10m is very different in different locations. and yes that is what is behind the jbw thing, perceived wealth due to that idea being ingrained into the culture.

women don't care much about money, they do care about the status that can be purchased or assumed due to money. money is the tool, status is the currency. status can be achieved other than money, for example, social circle. status can also be achieved by getting anything that others are impressed by, that is directly what status is and why money can equal status.

pool boys often have a social circle and if they play dominant or charismatic do very well. pool boy category includes (tutors, coaches, teachers, guards, drivers, and so on..).

You're also right, if a wealthy man gets snaked, it is because he allowed it regardless of if it is ignorance or being lazy. I always tell men to protect their assets and to deal directly with offenders. never be shamed into submission.

 

[SW15]

Most attractive women care about what you spend, not what you make. Tell her about trips, parties and luxury items. Not about saving, investments or career development.

if you’ve got confidence/flair, good convo and style you’ll be a sex symbol. If you’re middle class/doing well and want to consistently bang hotties, the solution isn’t game, the solution is becoming upper class/rich or at least appearing like you have the potential for it. Middle class isn’t sexy. It’s about lifestyle above all else. Conveying a rich lifestyle - playing tennis on a Wednesday afternoon, taking fancy trips etc. women are wired to think long term when having sex, so a man with money is a great long term prospect (the jackpot)…groupies were throwing themselves at Rollo when he was in a band because those women believed he could one day become a superstar millionaire…

Lifestyle will help a man get laid. You won't need as much pure seduction skill to get the bang but there is a baseline level of game needed.

1. Playing tennis at a high level.

Both @Stoic and @SmoothSmooth mention tennis in this. I am a tennis player. I have been playing since childhood, before puberty and before I was thinking about seduction. Tennis is not a great way to meet younger women for relationships and sex.

First off, despite tennis being a more female friendly sport, there are more male players than female players. The male players in general are far more talented than the female players. A lot of times, you will see 20s-30s women playing tennis with their husbands or boyfriends. It is rarer to see 2 women in the 20s-30s age range playing a singles match against each other. This is more true at public courts than private facilities.

At private facilities, there are sort of a doughnut hole in membership. The doughnut hole is 22-35 year old women. You'll see children, high schoolers, and maybe some college aged women whose parents are paying for the country/racquet club membership. Seeing 22-35 year old post college, childless women at a country/racquet club is rare. The most viable way to pick up a woman via tennis is if you're a 40 something man picking up a 40 something divorcee at a country/racquet club.

your smv as a man peaks in 30s-40s PROVIDED you are ACTUALLY high value.
Women like older men, because older men are rich. Yes, your wealth is a major key in what drives women to sleep with you.
and, before everyone screams ‘beta!’… it’s not betabuxx if she’s sleeping with you within 3 dates , you haven’t spent more than an average man would on the dates , and she’s being all sexy and feminine for you, and you’re tapping that azz without her asking to commit…

Most 30s-40s men don't experience this. Most 30s-40s men are beta males who are pusssy beggars for women close to their own ages. These men are lucky if the women are childless. Due to the Millennials, the ranks of childless 30 something women have been growing but that's still not that easy of a demographic to find and get their attention. A lot of single men in their 30s are fairly lonely because they are on the outside of social circles dominated by couples and are either struggling with swipe app dating or finding enough viable approaches.

A wealthy, childless 30s-40s man can do quite well. Even a wealthy single father in his 30s-40s could even snag a childless woman in that age range.

Like there’s actual studies out there showing how educated STEM women find it impossible to date (because they are hard wired to be attracted to men richer than them and the pool of bachelors earning more than them is so small). Game can’t override basic biology.

It's not just STEM women. Female lawyers and female business/executive managers have similar issues dating. These female lawyers and business managers are making good money and few men make more than they do. Additionally, high powered career women often don't have enough time to devote to developing a romantic relationship as career demands get in the way. A lot of men find this element of dating high powered career women to be frustrating. Many men would rather a woman with a less demanding career so that she can spend free time with him.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

money, hobbies and personal accomplishments is way better than dating I agree.
Dating is cool too, once or twice a week
But money brings respect, options and security

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Lifestyle will help a man get laid. You won't need as much pure seduction skill to get the bang but there is a baseline level of game needed.



Both @Stoic and @SmoothSmooth mention tennis in this. I am a tennis player. I have been playing since childhood, before puberty and before I was thinking about seduction. Tennis is not a great way to meet younger women for relationships and sex.

First off, despite tennis being a more female friendly sport, there are more male players than female players. The male players in general are far more talented than the female players. A lot of times, you will see 20s-30s women playing tennis with their husbands or boyfriends. It is rarer to see 2 women in the 20s-30s age range playing a singles match against each other. This is more true at public courts than private facilities.

At private facilities, there are sort of a doughnut hole in membership. The doughnut hole is 22-35 year old women. You'll see children, high schoolers, and maybe some college aged women whose parents are paying for the country/racquet club membership. Seeing 22-35 year old post college, childless women at a country/racquet club is rare. The most viable way to pick up a woman via tennis is if you're a 40 something man picking up a 40 something divorcee at a country/racquet club.



Most 30s-40s men don't experience this. Most 30s-40s men are beta males who are pusssy beggars for women close to their own ages. These men are lucky if the women are childless. Due to the Millennials, the ranks of childless 30 something women have been growing but that's still not that easy of a demographic to find and get their attention. A lot of single men in their 30s are fairly lonely because they are on the outside of social circles dominated by couples and are either struggling with swipe app dating or finding enough viable approaches.

A wealthy, childless 30s-40s man can do quite well. Even a wealthy single father in his 30s-40s could even snag a childless woman in that age range.



It's not just STEM women. Female lawyers and female business/executive managers have similar issues dating. These female lawyers and business managers are making good money and few men make more than they do. Additionally, high powered career women often don't have enough time to devote to developing a romantic relationship as career demands get in the way. A lot of men find this element of dating high powered career women to be frustrating. Many men would rather a woman with a less demanding career so that she can spend free time with him.

I mention tennis on Wednesday as an analogy for not working a standard 9-5. If you’re approaching women on a Wednesday afternoon in a nice car and nice watch, she’s gonna instantly know you’re high status, because you can afford to skip work on a weekday

I have just hit 30 and have more women and hotter women than I have had before. I date ages 19-25. It definitely gets better with age..if u play ur cards right
I have male friends who are wrecked or out the game by age 30…
In a kingdom, a woman wants to bang the king…not the prince or pool boy…
every man needs to have his own personal kingdom and carry himself as such

why would a girl in her prime years bang a 24 year old that still bites his nails and lives at home… when she can bang a 34 year that drives a Mercedes and has a 2 bedroom apartment ?

 

[BadBoy89]

I’ve been experiencing some kind of weird phenomenon lately.

Yes I’m well off. You could say financially successful etc.

Now only reason why I’m bringing this up is because once this side of my life starts revealing to certain woman I barely know they seem to loose a bit of interest and start acting very distant. As if being cautious. Why? Does anyone have this happened to them?

“Hi Jair, I had a great time last time night. Maybe we can intimate next time.”
“Hi Sharon, me too, I would love to be intimate with you. Oh, just so you know I’m worth $157,000,000.”
‘’Go to hell Jair123, I don’t ever want to see you again.”

 

[Stoic]

You're also right, if a wealthy man gets snaked, it is because he allowed it regardless of if it is ignorance or being lazy. I always tell men to protect their assets and to deal directly with offenders. never be shamed into submission.

I agree with this.

A lot of people on this forum seem to think having wealth is a challenge with women because you will automatically be put in provider label. But, you can have wealth, be street smart and shrewd, have a backbone and women will respect you because of it. And of course, you don't lead with it, don't need to talk about it, it's just a part of the lifestyle you bring.

 

[SW15]

If you have money and not much else going for you, it will be possible to get pusssy. It's best if you offer something else in the mating environment besides money but money alone (if enough of it) will get a man laid.

 

[metalwater]

I agree with this.

A lot of people on this forum seem to think having wealth is a challenge with women because you will automatically be put in provider label. But, you can have wealth, be street smart and shrewd, have a backbone and women will respect you because of it. And of course, you don't lead with it, don't need to talk about it, it's just a part of the lifestyle you bring.

having money is a form of status. women do like it.

clothes and wheels are definitely a financial statement and very visible. usually, those are the things we lead with, others see those two things usually before anything else and already make a judgment. my best hobby is farming. as result, I have some clothes that are used for that and some wheels also for it. if I go to a place that does not know me and have no introduction and look like a farmer I get a very different impression than if I arrive dressed as a landowner with better wheels. I am very fit and well-spoken, it is all about the illusion of wealth or not.

if I am trolling for women; arriving as a landowner is much better than as a farmer. we always lead with our money based on our presentation., that's why everyone tells us that shoes matter.

it takes a lot of money to trump other types of status with women; if ever. it is the status (prestige and perhaps dominance) that goes with money that they like.

we are talking about desire, not gold digging.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I’ve noticed that If I mention work my money or investments most women lose interest. I believe it’s because it gives beta provider vibes and these particular women are not
Looking for that

No, it's probably the way you bring it up. If you actually have money it will be obvious without you having to explicitly say it.

 

[Bokanovsky]

It did happen with Hulk Hogan's first wife. But I agree with your point.
And by they way, I've always said I'd prefer money over women. It's far more useful.

Money can get you women but women won't get you money...unless you're a pimp, that is

 

[Bokanovsky]

why would a girl in her prime years bang a 24 year old that still bites his nails and lives at home… when she can bang a 34 year that drives a Mercedes and has a 2 bedroom apartment ?

Because of the shaming associated with dating a guy who is significantly older. Her finds find out that her BF is 1.5 times her age? "Ewww, he's sooo old". This happens more often then you'd think.

 

[SargeMaximus]

No, it's probably the way you bring it up. If you actually have money it will be obvious without you having to explicitly say it.

It’s usually brought up online since I only do OLD

 

[Bokanovsky]

It’s usually brought up online since I only do OLD

They think you are bragging and/or faking.

 

[SargeMaximus]

They think you are bragging and/or faking.

Yes I know that now

 

[metalwater]

Money can get you women but women won't get you money...unless you're a pimp, that is

some women will voluntarily submit all to the man. that doesn't mean they will not have other issues, but some will increase your money.