The different female sexual strategies

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These are just general patterns I have noticed, of course nothing is concrete.

When you are trying to understand female behaviour you need to first consider which group she belongs to:

Hot girls aged 18-24…tend to rely on their femininity to attract men. They act bubbly around the men they like. They are not cynical, so they believe they have what it takes to keep Prince Charming committed. Make no mistake, they are looking for the Complete Package ie a BOYFRIEND. They are looking for the Alpha Male; who has his life together but also has providing potential and the ability to provide Gina tingles. They are naturally feminine (emotionally expressive), because women encourage each other to act feminine from a young age. There is a competitive subtext to femininity - girls will try to out-do each other with nail paint, clothing, childlike mannerism etc
These girls ‘go with the flow’ with men they like. They don’t prolong sex and don’t necessarily force it. They are going with their ‘feelings’ - usually sex will happen within 3 dates (obviously if she’s a virgin this may be longer). They want the challenge/reward of using their feminine charms to win over an aloof and distant Prince Charming. You do best by being distant and aloof with this type of girl and letting her come to you.

Girls who are 18-24 but not hot ie average or below average, are also looking for Prince Charming but are more reserved around him. They fear being used and have lower self esteem. They put up more walls and want to be chased/complimented hard etc. They aren’t looking to win him over, they will only go for him if he validates them outright. This is also the main OLD demographic. They do not get aggressively pursued in real life, so they can edit their pictures/get more attention from higher smv guys on the internet.

At age 25 is when things take a turn. Let’s say 50% of girls have done well for themselves and found someone by that point. They are years into a serious relationship with someone they love, maybe they met him at a college. They become increasingly dependant on him and would not risk messing things up (at least until marriage is secured). These girls are the happiest. The other 50% are now playing a different game.

these girls are aware of their friends doing well in relationships, and now employ different approaches as they haven’t found the guy. They are more cynical after either a) loosing a Prince Charming (alpha widow) b) Being unable to obtain the serious interest of any Prince Charming. They loose trust in their femininity and now think men ‘only care about sex’. So they use sex to gain power/leverage over men.

The hot girls over 25 realise that they need to secure something ASAP because there is a new crop of 18 year olds, so they now resort to finding the best PROVIDER they can find. They are very status conscious and have been told their whole lives that they are pretty. They are therefore very conscious of social expectations to find someone to settle down with. Their feelings are no longer completely involved in dating. Gina tingles are now no longer relevant. They do not hate men however, even if they are cynical about Prince Charming, because they managed to secure a Prince Charming at some point before and have good memories with him, before they broke up. So they will go on Tinder/Hinge/Instagram etc to get attention and gina tingles from the Alphas (or go on ‘girls nights out’ etc). It still makes them feel good when a Prince Charming flirts with them. This is the second main OLD demographic. However they won’t meet up with the guys, just get attention/validation, because they don’t have time to waste. They need this attention because the provider they actually go after doesn’t give them the same validation as Prince Charming. In the past, the girls would get these supplementary tingles from music, movies, novels etc. They are very calculated in their dating - going for either the richest chump or someone who worships her (usually someone they met through social circle as he’s more likely to be sincere). They tend to have more realistic estimations of their smv and will often settle for the ‘good enough guy’ from their social circle. They have nothing to prove, and they don’t hold much resentment against men, and will gladly accept the ‘good enough guy’ because their priorities have changed anyway and they have feelings of warmth/appreciation for him since she hasn’t allowed herself to be ran through.

The less attractive girls over 25 have various strategies. These girls become the most cynical and sometimes end up hating men. Firstly they now have to be more ‘forward’ and proactive to make things happen. What happens is, the ones with very low self esteem will be a little more ‘loose’, might hit the party scene hard, throwing themselves at the ‘bad boy’ types (a faux alpha) in the hopes that ONE will stick around. They feel that by being more forward and overt than the 18 year olds in the club, they can one-up them and win over the cool guys by giving them what they want. They may engage in promiscuous behaviour such as threesomes or join sex apps/sex parties etc to try to ‘one up’ the hotter younger feminine girls.

The other girls over 25 with higher self esteem, that weren’t necessarily hot but maybe a bit above average, will make compromises. These girls also run the risk of being very cynical/hating men, because they have an overinflated SMV value of self. They aren’t competitive enough to get the highest level providers (which the hot girls over 25 got - the best husband material). What happens is, they will ‘give a guy a chance’. They will start dating men they aren’t necessarily High Interest for, but are still sexually attracted to on some level - these are the girls a lot of PUA types get with. The girl is conflicted because although the guy is attractive, he isn’t giving her the same rush she had with Prince Charming (maybe he’s less smooth or aloof), but he also isn’t providing the any sense of security she now desires. They will **** test the guy, flake on dates, do all kinds of things to make themselves feel better about hooking up with him. Basically, they will let him have sex, but only if there is some sense of her having more power than him. They don’t have enough trust in men anymore to rely on femininity/submission. The reason this demographic becomes very cynical, is that even this doesn’t work most of the time. They think they are making compromises by hooking up with the man, yet in reality he is just using her for sex. So the girl lowers her standards a little for the next man, and the same thing happens. It’s because her ‘compromises’ are men that are already higher smv than her. So eventually she gives up completely and settles for a average/below average guy.
 
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The problem is you are making broad generalisations based on your own experiences

I'm not saying that the strategies you theorise aren't being used i just don't think they are cemented into every single female because they are so emotionally unstable they can change attitudes like the weather

I have never experienced anything as baffling as a female going from red hot to ice cold over nothing it will have happened to every man on the planet in every age group and nobody ever really understands why , it truly is one of life's greatest mystery's

What i can say for certain is that interacting with ANY woman of ANY age on a swipe app / social media is completely different to interacting with them in real life

This is something that took me a long time to fully understand
 

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The problem is you are making broad generalisations based on your own experiences

I'm not saying that the strategies you theorise aren't being used i just don't think they are cemented into every single female because they are so emotionally unstable they can change attitudes like the weather

I have never experienced anything as baffling as a female going from red hot to ice cold over nothing it will have happened to every man on the planet in every age group and nobody ever really understands why , it truly is one of life's greatest mystery's

What i can say for certain is that interacting with ANY woman of ANY age on a swipe app / social media is completely different to interacting with them in real life

This is something that took me a long time to fully understand
I think that it has to do more with how many partners a woman had , rather than how old she is

the older she gets , the most likely it is that She experienced a lot of bad things ,by putting herself in the position or not .

and yeah , real life is also super different than online . Usually in online yoh have on average worse quality than in real life
 

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in addition,
Any guy or dating coach claiming to have techniques for one night stands/first date sex/tinder hookups with the first demographic - 18-24 in her prime and feminine…is lying. These girls are going for the ultimate prize - a high value boyfriend. Those things can happen as an anomaly, due to unusual circumstances (eg you already have massive social proof and she was very drunk), but it is not the norm and not something she will feel good about after.

those casual encounters are usually occurring with the other demographics listed
 

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It's really not this complicated. All women tend to behave the same way no matter how old they are. How attractive they are and how much attention they get based on this attractiveness. Everything is based on the level of male attention she gets. I know very good looking 45 year olds that act like they are still in their 20s... they behave that way because they can.

Women are emotional butterflies, and what blows them around is male attention, the more male attention (wind) she gets, the more erratic her behavior.
 
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Women only have strategies for simps and beta males they find attractive. For Chads, all of that shvt gets thrown out the door.
 

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Her preference is based on the demographics above.


Why do you think even the best looking and richest men get rejected all the time? It’s down to her not him. A 28 year old girl is more likely going to care more about ‘beta’ traits than a blue tick on Instagram

the problem is too many people think it comes down to the man when a lot of it comes down to the girl and her desires. Women are the sexual selectors.
 

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Her preference for Chad is based on the demographics above.
If she’s 18-24 and hot (8/10+), yes, she most likely wants Chad - but with the goal of securing him as a boyfriend AND if he’s able to engage her feelings (if a 10/10 man just came up to her and said ‘hey want sum fuk’) she’d call the cops

Why do you think even the best looking and richest men get rejected all the time? It’s down to her not him. A 28 year old girl is more likely going to care more about ‘beta’ traits
It's all about peaks and valleys. Get her hooked with the Alpha dawg bad boy she can't get enough, then do something pretty Beta with her, then back to Alpha.....

Always keep her on her toes, unsure of what 'you' she's gonna see next.
 

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Older women do tend to become "Provider Hunters" but not as fast in life as has been in the fast. 35 year old women today who are out on swipe apps receive more male attention than a 20 year old in 1990.
 

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Older women do tend to become "Provider Hunters" but not as fast in life as has been in the fast. 35 year old women today who are out on swipe apps receive more male attention than a 20 year old in 1990.
Bro, I wish people would stop talking about swipe apps. Women had POF and match 10 years ago and never took men on those sites seriously. Apps are no different, they’re just easier to set up accounts on and on the phone so more women use them. The hot ones just use it for validation. When dating sites were a thing, making a profile meant you had to put in more effort and sit at a laptop all day, so they were less popular. Apps take seconds to create an account, girls don’t even need a bio.
Nobody worth a gain of salt uses these things seriously, now or back then, objectively hot women have never desired men that resort to the internet to get something as trivial as vagina. The guys I know doing ‘well’ on OLD (6 figs, 6ft) are getting girls way below their smv.


Lover/Provider is a spectrum and high smv women want BOTH. People who say it’s all about game or the ‘lover’ stuff are trying to sell you a course. All women care about money and resources, no matter their age. Even young girls will care about designer bags and shoes way before the boys even comprehend these things, because it is a strategy to disqualify poor men from approaching/appear more affluent. If you take a natural Chad and put the same guy in a Benz with designer clothes, he becomes way more attractive to way more women, his own personal standards would also increase to match his new value.
 
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I have never experienced anything as baffling as a female going from red hot to ice cold over nothing it will have happened to every man on the planet in every age group and nobody ever really understands why , it truly is one of life's greatest mystery's
Ive literally had girls pursue me 3 dates in, call me every-morning like were together, and have a total aura change in the afternoon. All whils Ive been at work......

It kind of puts me off the whole thing If im honest....
 

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Yellowstone comes on tonight. Pretty stoked about that.

And about all this stuff you boys are rambling on about..... who cares?
 

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They want the challenge/reward of using their feminine charms to win over an aloof and distant Prince Charming. You do best by being distant and aloof with this type of girl and letting her come to you.
They have nothing to prove, and they don’t hold much resentment against men, and will gladly accept the ‘good enough guy’ because their priorities have changed anyway and they have feelings of warmth/appreciation for him since she hasn’t allowed herself to be ran through.
These both describe my gf.
they are looking for the Complete Package ie a BOYFRIEND. They are looking for the Alpha Male; who has his life together but also has providing potential and the ability to provide Gina tingles
Keyword here is "potential". But yeah I've talked about the importance of sending potential boyfriend vibes to compliment your player vibes here before.
 

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Ive literally had girls pursue me 3 dates in, call me every-morning like were together, and have a total aura change in the afternoon. All whils Ive been at work......

It kind of puts me off the whole thing If im honest....
It's fvcking mental but like i said you aren't alone every guy will have experienced this usually many times , some won't admit it but they have

IMO Women do not get called out anywhere near enough on this bizarre indecisive behaviour ..... men are very quick to be called players , fvck boys and womanisers in mainstream culture

But when women pull these stunts !?! it's almost laughed off like haha she blew him off or she just got the "ICK"

Baffling
 

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It's fvcking mental but like i said you aren't alone every guy will have experienced this usually many times , some won't admit it but they have

IMO Women do not get called out anywhere near enough on this bizarre indecisive behaviour ..... men are very quick to be called players , fvck boys and womanisers in mainstream culture

But when women pull these stunts !?! it's almost laughed off like haha she blew him off or she just got the "ICK"

Baffling
At a certain point, men need to accept this.

Women are the way they are. Men are the way they are. There's no changing one another. We need to accept the opposite sex for the way they are, the things they do, etc.

Many guys, for example, don't have the stones to walk away from a chick. They'll talk a good game, post about it on a message board...but when push comes to shove, our minds - for some fvcked up reason - keep trying to find a way to "make it work" with her.
 

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At a certain point, men need to accept this.

Women are the way they are. Men are the way they are. There's no changing one another. We need to accept the opposite sex for the way they are, the things they do, etc.

Many guys, for example, don't have the stones to walk away from a chick. They'll talk a good game, post about it on a message board...but when push comes to shove, our minds - for some fvcked up reason - keep trying to find a way to "make it work" with her.
No women are not any certain way that is the entire crux of this thread

Men generally tend to follow normal logical behaviour patterns , its very rare e a guy will flake on date with a girl he's interested in , he will be there come hell or high water

Similarly with his interest level its not going to wildly fluctuate from one hour to the next based on some tv show he's watched or something his mate has told him or how hungry he is

Its fine saying ah yea just next her or walk away ..... great but it doesn't really answer anything and the female as usual gets away scott free ready to pull the same stunt on the next guy depending on how her mood is

Men put up with a lot of nonsense in todays dating world that is a fact ..... this is partly because women are hardly ever held accountable for shoddy behaviour patterns infact they are almost encouraged
 

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Men put up with a lot of nonsense in todays dating world that is a fact .
THIS is why the hard NEXT is a non-negotiable. I've been back and forth on this, but have realized this is the way it has to be.

We can't worry what the b!tch is gonna do with the next guy. All we need to worry about is ourselves.

Men will never wrap their heads around this fact, I fear. We become addicted to the wet hole she has between her legs, and as a result, we NEVER walk away. What happens is, she dumps us one day out of the blue (even though the writing was on the wall for months and we never saw it), then we create a SoSuave account and starting b!tching about female nature.
 

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You fail to realise unless the behaviour changes on a societal level eventually you will be that "next guy"
That's, again, why the hard NEXT is non-negotiable.

I'm gonna bow out of this conversation now. I've said my piece. I have a feeling you want to take this down into the weeds and get super pseudo-intellectual with this.

This sh!t is simple, and not worth having deep, thoughtful conversations about.
 
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