Girls should be the most important thing to you

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He is not underestimating himself, but he is projecting that on everyone else.
It's a recipe for toxic resentment when the self sacrifice isn't reciprocated, he is underestimating himself.

@LucianoM , any man can fuuck a girl, any man can cvm in her guts and make a kid. Any man can be around while the kid grows. Humans are extremely resilient, resourceful, and adaptive. The kid will grow even if you aren't there, as long as he has the most basic necessities fulfilled, which can be provided easily in most countries. Obviously if you're there to inspire him, he'll have a richer childhood, but the fact remains that this is just cream on top, and not exactly necessary.

A man is a force of nature, to impose his will on the world. You are meant to do great things; move mountains, lead nations, progress a field of science or art that you're passionate about, disrupt the status quo. This passion is meant to be your first and true love, always, it's your foundation. It will teach you, and will always be there when you're ready to tackle it. Your chosen passion is a dragon that you go out and relentlessly slay, grinding yourself down doing what you truly love. This process instills the epitome of masculine energy within you, to the point that it starts to ooze out into other faucets of your life.

A woman is your joy, your break from slaying dragons. You spend time with her to bask in the fruits of your labors. Building a family is it's own quirky fun challenge, but it should always feel dwarfed by the challenges from your passions. I don't mean you should neglect your family, I mean that when you go out to slay dragons again, you're pushing yourself to your limits relentlessly. As a result of this independent drive, any family drama will seem like child's play by comparison, and you'll easily be the solid, easy-going rock that a healthy woman enjoys, and that a child is inspired by.

This will also play into finding a compatible woman. If she isn't a joy, if she doesn't understand and respect your relentless drive for your own passions, if she doesn't see that it's the ultimate source of your strength, then she's simply not compatible. A compatible woman will not only see that drive, but provide what she can to help you on your quest. She will help make things effortless, just as you make them for her.

To say you only live for your woman and family may be a fun dramatic plot for a movie, but you're destined for much, much more. Come into your own, and you'll see that a family is something that will come naturally and effortlessly. What you live and grind for is the source of energy that allows you to always come from a place of abundance with women.

If you're going to say that women are your true passion, then I would expect that you at least have an esteemed degree in psychology, publishing ground breaking papers on the subject of family relations, or writing books on the topic, or giving lectures, or otherwise providing a service that challenges you to become the master of your craft. Otherwise what are you doing with yourself?
 

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But as a single man i dont have the motivator of family, all i have are girls. They are the single most important thing in my life. Everything i do is to get more girls, spend more time with them, fvck them, laugh with them, go places with them and just enjoy the overall companionship of a female. They are my only reason to live and the reason i get up every morning and bust my ass at work. The reason i invest, why i just got a new apartment, why i care about my health and fitness, why i brush my teeth 3 yimes a day, why i cut my hair a certain way. My life literally revolves around girls and so should yours. The most miserable times in my life were when i didnt have girls and the happiest times were when i did. Like i do now. Im grateful to be in this position and my biggest fear is being without them someday. So i keep hustling, keep working, keep improving. All to keep attracting females. Its biology, you cant fight this chit or "red pill" your way out of it. If you are unhappy with your life its becuase you dont have women in your life. Focus more on girls, the rest is just noise.
I can identify with the feelings you describe because there have been times in my life I've felt that way.
 

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It's a recipe for toxic resentment when the self sacrifice isn't reciprocated, he is underestimating himself.

@LucianoM , any man can fuuck a girl, any man can cvm in her guts and make a kid. Any man can be around while the kid grows. Humans are extremely resilient, resourceful, and adaptive. The kid will grow even if you aren't there, as long as he has the most basic necessities fulfilled, which can be provided easily in most countries. Obviously if you're there to inspire him, he'll have a richer childhood, but the fact remains that this is just cream on top, and not exactly necessary.

A man is a force of nature, to impose his will on the world. You are meant to do great things; move mountains, lead nations, progress a field of science or art that you're passionate about, disrupt the status quo. This passion is meant to be your first and true love, always, it's your foundation. It will teach you, and will always be there when you're ready to tackle it. Your chosen passion is a dragon that you go out and relentlessly slay, grinding yourself down doing what you truly love. This process instills the epitome of masculine energy within you, to the point that it starts to ooze out into other faucets of your life.

A woman is your joy, your break from slaying dragons. You spend time with her to bask in the fruits of your labors. Building a family is it's own quirky fun challenge, but it should always feel dwarfed by the challenges from your passions. I don't mean you should neglect your family, I mean that when you go out to slay dragons again, you're pushing yourself to your limits relentlessly. As a result of this independent drive, any family drama will seem like child's play by comparison, and you'll easily be the solid, easy-going rock that a healthy woman enjoys, and that a child is inspired by.

This will also play into finding a compatible woman. If she isn't a joy, if she doesn't understand and respect your relentless drive for your own passions, if she doesn't see that it's the ultimate source of your strength, then she's simply not compatible. A compatible woman will not only see that drive, but provide what she can to help you on your quest. She will help make things effortless, just as you make them for her.

To say you only live for your woman and family may be a fun dramatic plot for a movie, but you're destined for much, much more. Come into your own, and you'll see that a family is something that will come naturally and effortlessly. What you live and grind for is the source of energy that allows you to always come from a place of abundance with women.

If you're going to say that women are your true passion, then I would expect that you at least have an esteemed degree in psychology, publishing ground breaking papers on the subject of family relations, or writing books on the topic, or giving lectures, or otherwise providing a service that challenges you to become the master of your craft. Otherwise what are you doing with yourself?
You bring up an excellent point, however what is the reason for men doing all this? The reason men climb mountains and slay dragons is for access to the best quality women. Looking at our biology, sex with women is what drives us.

Let's say hypothetically women outnumbered men, we all had easy access to as many beautiful women as we want.

What reason would you have for self improvement? Why would you need to climb a mountain? Why would you need to find the cure to all cancers?

I'm genuinely curious what your main mode of motivation would be if it were not for women?
 

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Well... if the OP didn't do the best he can to be attractive to women, didn't have a job and salary sufficient enough to date women, or had a good life.... well.... he wouldn't have women.

So if the attainment of these things are required to get women... then how can women be the most important?

Women take a back seat to earning money, your family, your health, and your well being, because without these things you don't have women. Now if the Op is saying that women give him the motivation to be successful... okay... I guess I can buy that. That was true for me in my early years, but as you get older, you realize that having a successful life is more important.

If someone told me I could have all the women I want, but the trade off would be that I will be broke, and when I'm old... would be in a horrible retirement home... well... I could do with out women.
 

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You bring up an excellent point, however what is the reason for men doing all this? The reason men climb mountains and slay dragons is for access to the best quality women. Looking at our biology, sex with women is what drives us.

Let's say hypothetically women outnumbered men, we all had easy access to as many beautiful women as we want.

What reason would you have for self improvement? Why would you need to climb a mountain? Why would you need to find the cure to all cancers?

I'm genuinely curious what your main mode of motivation would be if it were not for women?
This is fascinating, are women truly your only motivation in life? Wouldn't that mean that you revolve around them? What does that say about your self worth?

I do these challenging things I'm passionate about because I understand that I grow from them, and become a better person for everyone, especially myself.

It doesn't matter whether beautiful women outnumber men, or if I marry a hot woman, or if there's only one ugly woman left on the entire planet, or if I die alone, or if the planet is all men and reproduction occurs with mechanical surrogates, the grind is relentless and manifests self validation, self discipline, true fulfillment, and all the virtues that make a man a better steward of life and growth. To expect this true fulfillment to come from a woman is nonsense, and puts immense pressure on the woman. You don't come to a woman out of lack, seeking validation, you come to a woman fulfilled and share that abundance with her. The former is dysfunctional, yet can survive in a toxic self consuming state. The latter is the ideal and healthiest possible outcome, what argument is there against growth and coming from abundance?

If you don't sense an internal duty to break barriers and grow to become the best at your craft, then you're simply squandering the marvelous biological machinery we've all been blessed with, and you have my pity.

Look at Tesla, supposedly died a virgin and yet he revolutionized the world like no other. He was so obsessed with his craft to the point that he didn't even bother with family. If faced with the fate of dying alone or not having another woman for the rest of your life, are you going to cower in fear when challenges arise? Are you going to give up exploring the universe and pushing out of your comfort bubble? Do you really have no curiosities? No interests other than to seek validation from a woman?

A family is a means to perpetuate the race, it's the bare minimum required of us to simply exist and is extremely easy to do. How can you possibly think that's all you're good for? Have some dignity.
 

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It's a recipe for toxic resentment when the self sacrifice isn't reciprocated, he is underestimating himself.

@LucianoM , any man can fuuck a girl, any man can cvm in her guts and make a kid. Any man can be around while the kid grows. Humans are extremely resilient, resourceful, and adaptive. The kid will grow even if you aren't there, as long as he has the most basic necessities fulfilled, which can be provided easily in most countries. Obviously if you're there to inspire him, he'll have a richer childhood, but the fact remains that this is just cream on top, and not exactly necessary.

A man is a force of nature, to impose his will on the world. You are meant to do great things; move mountains, lead nations, progress a field of science or art that you're passionate about, disrupt the status quo. This passion is meant to be your first and true love, always, it's your foundation. It will teach you, and will always be there when you're ready to tackle it. Your chosen passion is a dragon that you go out and relentlessly slay, grinding yourself down doing what you truly love. This process instills the epitome of masculine energy within you, to the point that it starts to ooze out into other faucets of your life.

A woman is your joy, your break from slaying dragons. You spend time with her to bask in the fruits of your labors. Building a family is it's own quirky fun challenge, but it should always feel dwarfed by the challenges from your passions. I don't mean you should neglect your family, I mean that when you go out to slay dragons again, you're pushing yourself to your limits relentlessly. As a result of this independent drive, any family drama will seem like child's play by comparison, and you'll easily be the solid, easy-going rock that a healthy woman enjoys, and that a child is inspired by.

This will also play into finding a compatible woman. If she isn't a joy, if she doesn't understand and respect your relentless drive for your own passions, if she doesn't see that it's the ultimate source of your strength, then she's simply not compatible. A compatible woman will not only see that drive, but provide what she can to help you on your quest. She will help make things effortless, just as you make them for her.

To say you only live for your woman and family may be a fun dramatic plot for a movie, but you're destined for much, much more. Come into your own, and you'll see that a family is something that will come naturally and effortlessly. What you live and grind for is the source of energy that allows you to always come from a place of abundance with women.

If you're going to say that women are your true passion, then I would expect that you at least have an esteemed degree in psychology, publishing ground breaking papers on the subject of family relations, or writing books on the topic, or giving lectures, or otherwise providing a service that challenges you to become the master of your craft. Otherwise what are you doing with yourself?
He has a vacestomy so 90% of your post, esp involving family does not apply with him. Here its only about sex and companionship which was expanded into a feature lenght essay explaining you need women more than air.
The fact you assumed a family means you think this guy is normal. Good luck reasoning with the likes of him.
 

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Its paraphrasing what you and other people like the OP are saying.
it's not what I said, so your ability to paraphrase can be improved still. also, my clarity of writing can be improved if you think that is even close to what I said.

what we are looking at is the root reasons that drive us to be great men. some tell that it is for greatness alone and that is enough. others tell that we have a reason to desire to be great. I am in a camp that believes in the cause and effect of all things. ultimately much can be tied back to a few events and actions. I am not sure we have this right yet in this thread, but for sure your paraphrase is not in sync.

sometimes humility is needed to perceive truth.

for example, going into isolation completely and learning to become the greatest musician ever. no one will ever hear you, only you will hear you. this example does not appeal to me, yet others teach that it should because my mission should be self-driven and self-validated. just a dose of perspective.
 

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I read in some incel forum once that someone improved on their job performance when they started escortcelling. Some guys are motivated by that. But to push this as a one size fits all does not make sense. Of course there will be other motivators for greatness aside from women or escortcelling, etc... This works for the OP and his world. I doubt anyone here is going to push someone getting a woman,at any cost, to the point of even using prostitutes, like the example here and say that leads to greatness.
 

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This is fascinating, are women truly your only motivation in life? Wouldn't that mean that you revolve around them? What does that say about your self worth?

I do these challenging things I'm passionate about because I understand that I grow from them, and become a better person for everyone, especially myself.

It doesn't matter whether beautiful women outnumber men, or if I marry a hot woman, or if there's only one ugly woman left on the entire planet, or if I die alone, or if the planet is all men and reproduction occurs with mechanical surrogates, the grind is relentless and manifests self validation, self discipline, true fulfillment, and all the virtues that make a man a better steward of life and growth. To expect this true fulfillment to come from a woman is nonsense, and puts immense pressure on the woman. You don't come to a woman out of lack, seeking validation, you come to a woman fulfilled and share that abundance with her. The former is dysfunctional, yet can survive in a toxic self consuming state. The latter is the ideal and healthiest possible outcome, what argument is there against growth and coming from abundance?

If you don't sense an internal duty to break barriers and grow to become the best at your craft, then you're simply squandering the marvelous biological machinery we've all been blessed with, and you have my pity.

Look at Tesla, supposedly died a virgin and yet he revolutionized the world like no other. He was so obsessed with his craft to the point that he didn't even bother with family. If faced with the fate of dying alone or not having another woman for the rest of your life, are you going to cower in fear when challenges arise? Are you going to give up exploring the universe and pushing out of your comfort bubble? Do you really have no curiosities? No interests other than to seek validation from a woman?

A family is a means to perpetuate the race, it's the bare minimum required of us to simply exist and is extremely easy to do. How can you possibly think that's all you're good for? Have some dignity.
I wouldn't say it's my raison d'être, but it is my primary motivator for self improvement. I started eating healthy and going to the gym to improve my smv and get more women.

I studied hard and spent a lot of time searching for a good job to increase my income and get more women

I dress nice and work on my confidence/charisma to attract more women.

If you can do all that simply for yourslef then i commend you, for me I live the thrill of the chase. The whole process from meeting a new woman ans getting to know them more and more until i finally conquer them by having sex.
 

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I actually posted a few text messages but you apparently didn't bother reading them in the last thread you where whining in.

It doesn't make any difference to me what you believe if I am being honest, I lose no sleep over it.
Only in the world of a liar is somebody who is simply asking for receipts a whiner.

Maybe if you make another alt and upload a picture in a thread that'll throw me off your trail
 

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Op made a good post because it makes everyone question the beliefs being held.

Especially on a forum like this.
I got a few questions.

Would you avoid doing things you enjoy to get more girls?

Would you change your personal desires and passions to get more girls?

Would you change your field of work to get more girls?

Would you change your behaviour and put on a facade to get more girls?

Would you want to lead the species if you could if you knew it wouldn't get you girls or just focus on getting more girls?

That's all
 

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A married mans biggest motivatior in life is his wife and kids. Thats why he gets up every morning, thats why he busts his ass for a promotion, to support his family and give his kids a better future. A married man will gladly put his wants and needs aside for his family and thats a noble and just reason.
But as a single man i dont have the motivator of family, all i have are girls. They are the single most important thing in my life. Everything i do is to get more girls, spend more time with them, fvck them, laugh with them, go places with them and just enjoy the overall companionship of a female. They are my only reason to live and the reason i get up every morning and bust my ass at work. The reason i invest, why i just got a new apartment, why i care about my health and fitness, why i brush my teeth 3 yimes a day, why i cut my hair a certain way. My life literally revolves around girls and so should yours. The most miserable times in my life were when i didnt have girls and the happiest times were when i did. Like i do now. Im grateful to be in this position and my biggest fear is being without them someday. So i keep hustling, keep working, keep improving. All to keep attracting females. Its biology, you cant fight this chit or "red pill" your way out of it. If you are unhappy with your life its becuase you dont have women in your life. Focus more on girls, the rest is just noise.
Only in the world of a liar is somebody who is simply asking for receipts a whiner.

Maybe if you make another alt and upload a picture in a thread that'll throw me off your trail
 

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I started eating healthy and going to the gym to improve my smv and get more women.

I studied hard and spent a lot of time searching for a good job to increase my income and get more women

I dress nice and work on my confidence/charisma to attract more women.

If you can do all that simply for yourslef then i commend you,
I started all the above to respect myself and get the attention of women… In that order.

I love being the one that rejects them now.
I love being the one that friend zones them now.
“I got my troll cannon charged up”

Each day at least 5 minutes of time is invested in counting my blessings and being thankful to God for every good thing in my life. Guess what? Women is not one of them and the 5 minutes are usually filled up.
I’m a Believer myself and in my daily prayer I’m thankful for all the blessings He has given me. I’m yet to be thankful for a women He has taken from my rib and placed by my side to protect, preside, and prosper with.

Would you avoid doing things you enjoy to get more girls?

Would you change your personal desires and passions to get more girls?

Would you change your field of work to get more girls?

Would you change your behaviour and put on a facade to get more girls?

Would you want to lead the species if you could if you knew it wouldn't get you girls or just focus on getting more girls?
- no
- no
- no
- no
- sick, good question
 

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I’m a Believer myself and in my daily prayer I’m thankful for all the blessings He has given me. I’m yet to be thankful for a women He has taken from my rib and placed by my side to protect, preside, and prosper with.
That's good. Look forward to hearing your contributions on here.
 

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58 replies and close to 900 views and this guy posted this thread last night. Got to hand it to that guy, he knows what he is doing.
 

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58 replies and close to 900 views and this guy posted this thread last night. Got to hand it to that guy, he knows what he is doing.
Nobody on this forum realizes that he creates threads about non-sensical stuff, then sits back and watches everyone fall all over themselves to seriously respond.
 

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You bring up an excellent point, however what is the reason for men doing all this? The reason men climb mountains and slay dragons is for access to the best quality women. Looking at our biology, sex with women is what drives us.

Let's say hypothetically women outnumbered men, we all had easy access to as many beautiful women as we want.

What reason would you have for self improvement? Why would you need to climb a mountain? Why would you need to find the cure to all cancers?

I'm genuinely curious what your main mode of motivation would be if it were not for women?
J Dilla, one of the greatest hiphop producers, was diagnosed with Lupus at the height of his career.
During the last days of his life, would make beats from his hospital bed.
Do you think his motivation was getting *****?

When Michael Jordan came back to basketball from retirement, already rich and living a playboy life filled with ***** and fun, do you think he came back to those 6am workouts because he wasn’t getting enough *****?
 

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J Dilla, one of the greatest hiphop producers, was diagnosed with Lupus at the height of his career.
During the last days of his life, would make beats from his hospital bed.
Do you think his motivation was getting *****?

When Michael Jordan came back to basketball from retirement, already rich and living a playboy life filled with ***** and fun, do you think he came back to those 6am workouts because he wasn’t getting enough *****?
If someone told jordan that he had to choose between never playing basketball again or never getting pvssy again, which do you think he would choose?

Exaclty.

Pvssy over everything.
 
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