Should you hide being rich?

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Damn, you guys must be pretty poor in the UK if an "AMG Mercedes" gets you demi-god treatment.

I used to work in the auto finance industry. Poor people aren’t driving 70k plus cars unless they are in between jobs or suffering an unfortunate situation.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Although its an expensive car, I think its more to do with the fact, we sub consciously note the person can afford to put petrol in it.

Petrol & things are so expensive in the UK, drug addicts rob big blocks of cheese to sell on, theres literally a market for stolen cheese.

dude mine cost 50 plus to fill in fvcking Texas right now

 

[SW15]

No, you should not hide your wealth if you have it. Wealth indicates status, and status is sexually attractive to women.

Yes. Plenty of men have used BMWs, Porsches, yachts, and other things in order to get laid. Often times, these men have based their game around these wealth indicating items. Game is a combination of looks, money, status, and persona. Some men might use the money and status items more heavily in order to seduce.

The fear of gold diggers is irrational for 95% of men.

All women are attracted to men with resources. The ability to provide appeals to a woman's emotional nesting urges. This doesn't make her a gold digger. This doesn't make her shallow any more than desiring a young, pretty girl makes you shallow. This is simply how human attraction works.

And if you are in the top 5% of the socioeconomic pecking order (income > $500K/year, net worth > $3M), you only have to worry about gold diggers if you're stupid and beta enough to actually marry one. They really are not hard to spot -- especially if you're in an LTR with one.

I agree with this point. So long as you don’t put a ring on it or cohabit with her, you’ll probably be ok. Don’t make any other silly promises either.

$500K per year is in the top 1% of USA earners. Top 5% would be closer to $150K.

There are plenty of men who make $120k-$150k who get treated like shiit by women. They experience a lot of “one date, no sex, no second date” type dates. Their salary doesn’t get them much more than a guy making $55k-75k. In certain metro areas, a lot of white women with a BA/BS degree or higher, white collar job, and age 28-39 tend to expect men age 30+ to make $100k+. They don’t tend to give any special treatment to men until they make at least $200-$250k. This mainly applies to men meeting women via swipe apps and social media DMs, but can apply to a lesser extent in approaching strangers.

Being able to provide a comfortable upper-middle class lifestyle isn't going to attract attention from trophy wives. Don't worry. Instaho's aren't getting wet by your Banana Republic chinos and well-kept Acura.

I remember reading somewhere that when women see men in chinos/khakis, they think white collar beta male and not hot, sexy guy I want to fucck. I stopped wearing khakis at that time years ago. Acuras are just upscale Honda. Honda/Acura makes a good product, but it’s not the kind of car that gets women wet.

I have some assets and I really loved this girl and wanted to marry her. Unfortunately, my female lawyer told me I had to disclose what I had beforehand for a prenup.

I basically told the girl "I'll give you my entire salary and take care of you the best I can. I'll buy you a new car every 6 months. Only one caveat: you cannot touch any assets. In other words, while we are married if I pick a stock and it goes up, or if I bet on the hockey game and win, 90% of the money is yours. But you cannot touch any income-producing assets or income-producing stock I had beforehand.

The girl didn't go for it. Either I wasn't sexy enough, or she didn't trust my ability to pick Super Bowl winners.

Good call on not marrying her.

 

[rjc149]

I remember reading somewhere that seeing when women see men in chinos/khakis, they think white collar beta male and not hot, sexy guy I want to fucck. I stopped wearing khakis at that time years ago. Acuras are just upscale Honda. Honda/Acura makes a good product, but it’s not the kind of car that gets women wet.

This really depends on the woman’s social sphere and preselection criteria. There’s a prevalent stereotype of the “hot sexy guy” in attraction circles of a muscled, tatted up “bad boy” who wears leather jackets and rides a motorcycle etc. In most of the social spheres I run in, these guys are usually seen as under-employed Peter Pan losers — especially if they’re in their 30’s. Tommy Tats or some 33 Secrets PUA isn’t going to a lounge in the Hamptons and swiping a banker’s girlfriend, no matter how beta he is. Just ain’t gonna happen.

Ultimately, women are attracted to status. There are plenty of social circles where the skinny guy wearing J Crew is the preselected, sought-after alpha male, because he has high social/financial status. He would of course be seen as a white collar goody goody by a lot of other women (usually younger, immature women— but there were a lot of preppy shiny-shoe frat boys at my college who had exclusive access to the hottest sorority girls). There is no universal “hot guy” archetype— only stereotypes.

 

[BeExcellent]

And why purchase a $200 bottle when a $20 bottle is fine?

Aside from the obvious insecurity that comes through when men supplicate and try to impress women, and that no woman feels attracted to a man who thinks he needs buy her, any bottle of wine over $40 is a waste of money. Especially considering that a $200 bottle of wine at a restaurant costs $25 at the liquor store.

Exactly. Mark up on wine is typically 2x cost sometimes more. So you can get a $75 to $100 bottle of wine for $200 or thereabouts in a restaurant. You pay for the experience. Which in a good venue can be worth it but that is a personal choice.

My point is simply that for some people $200 might as well be $40, because it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. I don’t perceive a big difference between $10 and $20 for example. But for someone who struggles to make $20? It’s a big difference.

We percieve money differently relative to how much we have. Women read this just as plenty of men do. Agree completely with @Barrister on his point. I’m only dating men at or above my own financial status. I pick up those cues. I also appreciate frugality. My BF and I both earn six figure incomes. He drives a reliable clean used car that I could buy with a week’s wages. I drive an expensive exotic. It’s still a car. I just happen to like that bit of luxury in my life so that is reflected in my choices. He sees cars more pragmaticly. That is reflected in his choices.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

why?

Not looking for an LTR from tinder just a short time or plate...

Not really much different than seeking or escorts. The goal is a nut and maybe some attention.


I get being anonymous, thats good. So exact job and university would be not shared, but general ability and affluence are ok. Being humble doesn't flag tingles.

How the mind of a woman works is just insane to most of us and hidden.

Don't lead with "i am rich", but letting it be known is ok. Make sure we know what equals rich in any environment, lots of silly men think they are rich because they have never seen the face of the rich circles or even the upper-middle class but only the middle class and lower.

Often rich don't really know how much they have, they only know it's more than they need and never worry about it. I often see the wealthy will keep children close while the poor will get rid of them or let them wander.

I had ended a LTR & didn’t want anything serious.

Of course, I forgot, she gets a vote too. But that’s a topic for another thread.

 

[Velasco]

they only know it's more than they need

From the couple rich people I know, this is why I don't want to be rich. It's like getting the cheat codes to a video game you used to like playing. There's nothing left to do anymore. You've unlocked all the characters. All that's left I guess is to try to make even more money which comes with increased stress/expectations of you.

 

[Bigpapa]

From the couple rich people I know, this is why I don't want to be rich. It's like getting the cheat codes to a video game you used to like playing. There's nothing left to do anymore. You've unlocked all the characters. All that's left I guess is to try to make even more money which comes with increased stress/expectations of you.

i am not a rich dude , but I am living a premium life and basically came out of the sewer .

looking Back , the actual cool part is the journey ( one with a lot of obstacles that by luck and some brains managed to overcome ) .

Sure , living now a comfortable is better than living one that it is not , but what actually I think is the cool part is the story

money without spending them ( in a non vulgar way ) is mental illness from my point of view

 

[derby1]

dude mine cost 50 plus to fill in fvcking Texas right now

Ive just done a quick currency exchange, and we pay the equivalent of 2 dollars a litre here,

 

[EyeBRollin]

dude mine cost 50 plus to fill in fvcking Texas right now

Gas was $5/gal back in 2007/2008. How quickly we forget…

 

[metalwater]

From the couple rich people I know, this is why I don't want to be rich. It's like getting the cheat codes to a video game you used to like playing. There's nothing left to do anymore. You've unlocked all the characters. All that's left I guess is to try to make even more money which comes with increased stress/expectations of you.

nope. but i can see your point.

freedom. you can choose what you do every time and what you want to change. just the start.

 

[metalwater]

i am not a rich dude , but I am living a premium life and basically came out of the sewer .

looking Back , the actual cool part is the journey ( one with a lot of obstacles that by luck and some brains managed to overcome ) .

Sure , living now a comfortable is better than living one that it is not , but what actually I think is the cool part is the story

money without spending them ( in a non vulgar way ) is mental illness from my point of view

That's cool I also had a bunk in the sewer.

for me money is freedom. being free and poor is not free (for me).