WTF is going on with the world and this non-binary crap??

[EyeBRollin]

When media, government, and educational institutions are trying to control the way one refers to them by shaming those that don't refer to them as their "proper pronouns" I'd say that's trying to model society around them.

Here in lies the problem. This perception is rather extreme because it there is no tangible evidence of this. Modeling society around trans folks would be conferring some sort of legal benefits or public policy to “promote” being trans - such as trans tax breaks (vs. child tax credit, married tax filing status, etc etc). Instead, this is literally complaining about pronoun semantics.

 

[joesbigship]

There's a local cafe where this is a "thing" (in more ways than one), post 80.

The cashier was a thing. Not male, not female, just 'it.' Dense, wiry arms and back. and hairy arms like a man. But super lean and long hair like a woman. Huge face mask so couldn't tell one way or the other. Aggressive like a karen.

The male staff are doughy, gyno boobed, low test.

Lots of 20 something relatively good looking patrons, but high freak factor here too.

Am I the only one noticing the decline of American white women

You and that other guy can go to hell You nerds Are comfortable behind your screens This would be an excellent time for a mod to intervene ...

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[EyeBRollin]

It could also be punishing based on "hate crimes".

That’s a given… basic human rights.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Not calling someone their preferred pronoun is not a hate crime or a given human right.

Why would that would fall under hate crime?

To be clear my human rights comment refers to the legal definition of hate crime- which means violence due to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Mental illness. In a war/ manly society, those types of people and thinking would be stamped out.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Well, I don't know why you're focusing on homosexuality then. No one is talking about that. The conversation is about Transgenderism. I don't think gays need therapy, but trannies most certainly do. And if therapy can't correct it, how about we don't model society based on a mental illness outlier of humans.

Both, homosexuality and transgenderism are acquired behaviours. No one is born gay or transgender. Scientists have spent decades trying to find the"gay gene", without success. The same is true of transgenderism. There is no genetic basis for it (with the exception of a very small number of individuals who are actually born with both, male and female physical traits but we are not talking about them here).

IMO, if an adult want to change his or her sex, I am fine with that. It's a form of self-mutilation that should be discouraged but ultimately I believe in individual autonomy. However, the same does not apply to children. Anyone who brainwashes/encourages a child to change their sex deserves capital punishment.

 

[derby1]

Emily Ratajkowski the model,has recently had a baby, and gone down this route.

Theyre complete lunatics,

Also if you google "how many genders are there"

the first 2 pages of results are owned by agenda websites and each result goes against science. even more concerning.

someone is also funding them, you dont just get on google page 1, for 50 pounds.

Theres something sinister at play here.

 

[Billtx49]

Both, homosexuality and transgenderism are acquired behaviours. No one is born gay or transgender. Scientists have spent decades trying to find the"gay gene", without success. The same is true of transgenderism. There is no genetic basis for it (with the exception of a very small number of individuals who are actually born with both, male and female physical traits but we are not talking about them here).

IMO, if an adult want to change his or her sex, I am fine with that. It's a form of self-mutilation that should be discouraged but ultimately I believe in individual autonomy. However, the same doe snot apply to children. Anyone who brainwashes/encourages a child to change their sex deserves capital punishment.

Well, if it’s not due to heredity then it has to be due to environment. My first guess as a prime source of such is a boy raised in the growing quantity of single never married mom households. A dad obviously wants to teach his son to be a man, take him fishing or hunting, encourage him to join sports like football, etc., but he’s not there.
What does a mom head of household think to do to raise her kid as a male?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Well, if it’s not due to heredity then it has to be due to environment. My first guess as a prime source of such is a boy raised in the growing quantity of single never married mom households. A dad obviously wants to teach his son to be a man, take him fishing or hunting, encourage him to join sports like football, etc., but he’s not there.
What does a mom alone do to raise her kid as a male?

My speculation-
How can it be environment if we are describing an extreme minority of the population? No amount of “gay lifestyle” or “pro-trans” stuff turns a straight man into that.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

When someone is proclaiming a 13 year old child to be gay then there must be something wrong with that person/parent. At that age you almost don't even know your own name and certainly not your sexuality. Things like that can piss me off. What gives adults the right to destroy kids future?

 

[EyeBRollin]

It's been observed in nature, that when a species becomes overpopulated in it's given environment, there is a higher occurrence of homosexuality.

Be skeptical of that observation. In humans, rural-urban trends are due to self-sorting.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Emily Ratajkowski the model,has recently had a baby, and gone down this route.

Theyre complete lunatics,

Also if you google "how many genders are there"

the first 2 pages of results are owned by agenda websites and each result goes against science. even more concerning.

someone is also funding them, you dont just get on google page 1, for 50 pounds.

Theres something sinister at play here.

Because Google is a leftist organisation and thus they promote it through their search algorithm to show and promote these crappy shyt results.

BTW: Use duck,com instead go get real organic results instead.

 

[rjc149]

Both, homosexuality and transgenderism are acquired behaviours. No one is born gay or transgender. Scientists have spent decades trying to find the"gay gene", without success. The same is true of transgenderism. There is no genetic basis for it (with the exception of a very small number of individuals who are actually born with both, male and female physical traits but we are not talking about them here).

IMO, if an adult want to change his or her sex, I am fine with that. It's a form of self-mutilation that should be discouraged but ultimately I believe in individual autonomy. However, the same does not apply to children. Anyone who brainwashes/encourages a child to change their sex deserves capital punishment.

Like nearly all human conditions, homosexuality results from a combination of nature and nurture. In other words, genetics loads the gun, environment/upbringing pulls the trigger.

Homosexuality is scientifically correlated with low natural testosterone levels, so it's partially genetic.

Environmental factors also play into it. Many gay men I've known were raised in matriarchal households.

Where we draw the line between homosexuality and transgenderism is clear to me. Both are age-old human conditions. Men living as women, and women living as men, is a tale as old as time. Transgenderism is just as much of an aspect of human society as homosexuality.

Biology does not determine your sexual orientation, but it does determine your gender, so sexual orientation and gender are not analagous. You don't come into this world as gay or straight, but you do come into this world as a male or female. Gender identity may be fluid and subjective, but gender is not.

The silent majority knows that challenging the scientific absolutism of gender and attacking those who state that truth is woke horsesh!t. Where I don't think people should remain silent is drawing that line at bodily mutilation and chemical alteration of hormonal production -- the surgical and irreversible -- transformation of one's body, from which minors should be prohibited.

That's not transphobia, that's simple social conscience.

 

[Billtx49]

It's been observed in nature, that when a species becomes overpopulated in it's given environment, there is a higher occurrence of homosexuality.

All I know for a fact is that a young person's personality/behavior is shaped by their heredity And/Or their environment during their formative years…

 

[Bokanovsky]

Homosexuality is scientifically correlated with low natural testosterone levels, so it's partially genetic.

If testosterone levels determined sexual orientation, gays could become straight by taking steroids. Yet, it doesn't work like that. The fact of the matter is that there is no solid proof of genetic causes of homosexuality, despite enormous amounts of time and money being spent trying to find it. All we have is vague studies of questionable reliability suggesting weak correlations.

Homosexuality is a fluid concept. Men in jail and in the military engage in homosexual acts and then "revert" back to heterosexuality. In some ancient societies, such as Greece and Rome, homosexuality and bisexuality were entirely normalized. In Sparta, they actually encouraged soldiers to be in homosexual relationships with each other (the theory was that a soldier would fight harder if someone they cared about was fighting side-by-side). Even in some modern societies, such as Afghanistan, homosexual relations with children and teenagers are considered more or less normal.

The fact that homosexuals comprise a growing percentage of the overall population is no coincidence and is certainly not a result of people coming out the closet. This is acquired behaviour, encouraged by society (or, more accurately, the people who control our society).

 

[PRW63]

WTF is going on with the world and this non-binary crap??

IT is called Society Self-Destruction.

 

[rjc149]

If testosterone levels determined sexual orientation, gays could become straight by taking steroids. Yet, it doesn't work like that. The fact of the matter is that there is no solid proof of genetic causes of homosexuality, despite enormous amounts of time and money being spent trying to find it. All we have is vague studies of questionable reliability suggesting weak correlations.

Homosexuality is a fluid concept. Men in jail and in the military engage in homosexual acts and then "revert" back to heterosexuality. In some ancient societies, such as Greece and Rome, homosexuality and bisexuality were entirely normalized. In Sparta, they actually encouraged soldiers to be in homosexual relationships with each other (the theory was that a soldier would fight harder if someone they cared about was fighting side-by-side). Even in some modern societies, such as Afghanistan, homosexual relations with children and teenagers are considered more or less normal.

The fact that homosexuals comprise a growing percentage of the overall population is no coincidence and is certainly not a result of people coming out the closet. This is acquired behaviour, encouraged by society (or, more accurately, the people who control our society).

Testosterone levels do not cause sexual orientation, it's correlative. Studies seem to support the anecdotal observations we have of very effeminate men -- they tend to be gay. Of course, high-T men can be gay, and low-T men can be straight. It's not causal.

Again, it's a combination of nature and nurture. There is a genetic predisposition to homosexuality, caused by low natural T levels. Environmental factors bring the predisposition to fruition. So while I'm not agreeing with you that homosexuality is on the rise as compared with other human societies past and present (because I've seen no scientific or demographic research to indicate there are more gays around) I'm not disagreeing that environment and micro society plays an influential factor in determining whether one either engages in homosexual acts, or identifies as a homosexual.

My theory is that there are less closeted gays than before, because it's becoming more normalized. It's important to distinguish that in the examples you gave of ancient Greece and Rome, and in samurai society as well, there was no such distinct "gay" or "straight" as an identity. Men in those societies who sucked d!ck were also expected to bang women and spread their seed.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Testosterone levels do not cause sexual orientation, it's correlative. Studies seem to support the anecdotal observations we have of very effeminate men -- they tend to be gay. Of course, high-T men can be gay, and low-T men can be straight. It's not causal.

The problem is that this is all very vague. "Studies seem to support anecdotal observations..."

Personally, I've met straight men who seemed rather effeminate and gays who were not effeminate at all. I will agree that, on average, gays have more effeminate mannerisms. But mannerisms are acquired traits. We know this because we constantly complain about modern women becoming less feminine. So if women can become less feminine as a result of cultural changes, why can't gay men become more feminine because they believe that this is how homosexuals are supposed to act?

And for that matter, why is it so difficult to accept that homosexuality may be entirely a result of environmental factors? Why does there have to be an underlying genetic reason?

 

[PRW63]

So while I'm not agreeing with you that homosexuality is on the rise as compared with other human societies past and present (because I've seen no scientific or demographic research to indicate there are more gays around)

It is on the rise now. They are "made" not "born". Committing a homosexual act doesn't make one homosexual, such as in the example of prisoners. With prisoners it is mostly about dominance and humiliation,...and that isn't the same as choosing the effeminate lifestyle.

It peaked areound 2000BC then declined to almost nothing.

It peaked during the Roman Empire (following the rise of feminism), then declined to almost nothing.

It peaked again during the Renascence, then declined to almost nothing.

It is in the midst of peaking in the modern western societies (following the rise of feminism) and bleeding over into non-western societies as they becomed more "westernized"

Not sure if it was proceeded by feminism in 2000BC or in the Renascence period.

It comes in the declining stages of the societies experiencing it. Sometimes the societies survive, sometimes they don't.

 

[joesbigship]

I doubt gay sex is anywhere near as prevalent in prisons or the military as the media makes it out to be.

More fake and gay propaganda...