Cute chick vendor at the fleamarket by my store

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She had an iPhone 8 cause she bought a case from me the other day. Old phone so they might not have a lot of money.
LOL. I have an iphone 7plus and wear supermarket clothes. I also have a six figure balance in my savings account, decent
income, a mortgage free house, no debt whatsoever and a variety of fully owned motor vehicles to use. The image I
project is that of a guy just getting by month to month, people would assume I'm paying a mortgage or maybe rent and
a loan repayment/lease deal for my 3 year old car, then managing to survive on what's left after my bills are paid.
I live WELL within my means and keep quietly stacking those chips in the background.
 

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Found out she's married. That's what I mean the hot ones get married young a lot of times and taken. By my age you're fighting for damaged goods!
 

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So I have a business at the market. Anyway, there is this cute girl and her and her mom set up a business a couple spots down from me.

The main issue is they don't speak a lot of English. I think they're light skinned Cuban or Mexican bit not fluent in English.

The girl is really quiet though. Other issue she looks about 19 at the most, I'm 38.

So what's the best way to talk to her if English isn't her primary language?

Dont want to be creepy and get thrown out because this is my full time job my business.
I'd be interested to learn some Spanish from her and you can teach her some English.

GTranslate "can you teach me <insert her language>?"

Win win.
 

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I know. I see guys on here mid 30s and such complaining they can't get 20 year olds. I recall Johnny Depp flirted with a young girl and people went nuts over it despite him being famous and high smv and called him a creep.
80 years ago the age thing wouldn't be a big deal! Why is there a stigma these days about guys liking younger women??
It’s a whole new world than that which existed decades ago. Today, young elm
Found out she's married. That's what I mean the hot ones get married young a lot of times and taken. By my age you're fighting for damaged goods!
That’s why I value widow game. Low mileage in terms of variety (usually they’ve only been with their husband) and quality personality. Usually quite subservient and eager to please. These are the QUALITY women who married early and have been widowed for a few years. They’re only going to go for men who are socially calibrated though. Money is usually not their primary concern.
 

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It’s a whole new world than that which existed decades ago. Today, young elm


That’s why I value widow game. Low mileage in terms of variety (usually they’ve only been with their husband) and quality personality. Usually quite subservient and eager to please. These are the QUALITY women who married early and have been widowed for a few years. They’re only going to go for men who are socially calibrated though. Money is usually not their primary concern.
But you're also 64 lol. You'd love it here in SWFL! You would do just fine, espeically at your age if you have money. Women gold dig down here!

I've been on dates with women divorced and one husband. They were from OLD and all of them I can totally see why they were divorced. They were mental! Especially this HB9 I went on a date with. She was married for a year and said her husband was tired of marriage. More like he was tired of her.
 

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That’s why I value widow game. Low mileage in terms of variety (usually they’ve only been with their husband) and quality personality. Usually quite subservient and eager to please. These are the QUALITY women who married early and have been widowed for a few years. They’re only going to go for men who are socially calibrated though. Money is usually not their primary concern.
I see your point. The board doesn't always talk about a lot of issues that are specific to the 50+ audience. I'm not that age yet but I have seen people 50+ close to me deal with dating issues.

20 years ago, widow game was probably easier than today. If we think about a 60-70 year old widow now, she was in her 20s during the 1970s-80s, which is when the Sexual Revolution was becoming mainstream. A woman who was 25 in 1985 was likely more promiscuous than a woman who was 25 in 1955. However, a woman who was 25 in 1985 was likely to have been less promiscuous during the 1980s than the current crop of 25-34 year olds.

Social calibration is important whether you're interested in 20, 30, or 60 year olds.

A woman who married early and has been widowed as a 60-65 year old is likely a better catch with a lower notch count than a 60-65 year old who has been divorced.

One of the easier things about dating in the 50+ set is that children under 18 are rarely an issue. Women 50+ either never had children or their children are over 18. There are issues surrounding adult children though. Adult children often do not take kindly to a parent's new relationship. Additionally, adult children tend to dislike interacting with other adult children at holidays when there was no relationship during the formative years. Another issue with adult children is that many adult children still live at home. Since the early 2000s, it has become more commonplace for those 18-30 years old to live at home for a period of time.

The retirement communities of the Sun Belt states in the USA are good places for pickup of 55+ women. @biggoal is near some of these 55+ communities. You could definitely do grocery store approaching as a 65 year old single man in these communities. Additionally, some of these 55+ communities have activities that are good for meeting people. It's like the college campus extracurricular activities, but for senior citizens.

I'm glad I'm in my 30s though and am interacting with 20s-30s women.
 

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Just because there's a goalkeeper, it doesn't mean you can't score a goal.
Yes, plenty of married women are open to additional sexual partners. They will often say that for plausible deniability. Using boyfriend destroyer lines can reveal how open she is to a new partner. If you keep pushing forward and ask for her number or a get together, you'll find how open she is.

Always push back when a woman mentions a boyfriend or husband.
 

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Yes, plenty of married women are open to additional sexual partners. They will often say that for plausible deniability. Using boyfriend destroyer lines can reveal how open she is to a new partner. If you keep pushing forward and ask for her number or a get together, you'll find how open she is.

Always push back when a woman mentions a boyfriend or husband.
I've been with married women. Some are ready to take any opportunity they can get. But on the other hand this girl is young, her mother is watching, you work nearby and you could ruin your reputation just by trying. Plus her husband could be a gang banger.
 

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Just because there's a goalkeeper, it doesn't mean you can't score a goal.
You are telling someone with the social skill of a tee-ball player to lay down a drag bunt to do a sacrifice squeeze....

He has a hard enough time getting the ball tee'ed up and I don't think he's ever been on base....Cmon....
 

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The girl is really quiet though. Other issue she looks about 19 at the most, I'm 38.
Dont want to be creepy and get thrown out because this is my full time job my business.
She is 19 with her mother. You are 38 and probably her mom's age. You are already creepy and you will get thrown out for bothering 19yo kids when they are with their mother.

They probably know enough English to yell Stalker or Police.
 

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She is 19 with her mother. You are 38 and probably her mom's age. You are already creepy and you will get thrown out for bothering 19yo kids when they are with their mother.

They probably know enough English to yell Stalker or Police.
Mother looked early 50s lol. And what's wrong with younger women. She's probably about 22. That's not that big of an age gap.
 

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I see your point. The board doesn't always talk about a lot of issues that are specific to the 50+ audience. I'm not that age yet but I have seen people 50+ close to me deal with dating issues.

20 years ago, widow game was probably easier than today. If we think about a 60-70 year old widow now, she was in her 20s during the 1970s-80s, which is when the Sexual Revolution was becoming mainstream. A woman who was 25 in 1985 was likely more promiscuous than a woman who was 25 in 1955. However, a woman who was 25 in 1985 was likely to have been less promiscuous during the 1980s than the current crop of 25-34 year olds.

Social calibration is important whether you're interested in 20, 30, or 60 year olds.

A woman who married early and has been widowed as a 60-65 year old is likely a better catch with a lower notch count than a 60-65 year old who has been divorced.

One of the easier things about dating in the 50+ set is that children under 18 are rarely an issue. Women 50+ either never had children or their children are over 18. There are issues surrounding adult children though. Adult children often do not take kindly to a parent's new relationship. Additionally, adult children tend to dislike interacting with other adult children at holidays when there was no relationship during the formative years. Another issue with adult children is that many adult children still live at home. Since the early 2000s, it has become more commonplace for those 18-30 years old to live at home for a period of time.

The retirement communities of the Sun Belt states in the USA are good places for pickup of 55+ women. @biggoal is near some of these 55+ communities. You could definitely do grocery store approaching as a 65 year old single man in these communities. Additionally, some of these 55+ communities have activities that are good for meeting people. It's like the college campus extracurricular activities, but for senior citizens.

I'm glad I'm in my 30s though and am interacting with 20s-30s women.
Correct. My aunt died a year ago. They lived in one of those retirement communities in the Tampa area. The manufactured home time 55 and over only. A number are seasonal residents though. But yea, a lot of activities, pool, etc. My uncle is in his 80 and when she died, women came to bring food to him and that. The funeral home director said that too lol ladies when they see a guy widowed will come around. They have activities literally daily. Swimming, pool, cards, shuffleboard, Karaoke, etc. Us post college guys don't have this stuff where it's easily to interact with daily activities.

I guess those communities would be like a college campus equiv for a 21 year old.
 

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She is 19 with her mother. You are 38 and probably her mom's age. You are already creepy and
Mother looked early 50s lol. And what's wrong with younger women. She's probably about 22. That's not that big of an age gap.
19..., now 22. They grow up so fast! :oops:

It isn't about if you think it is too big a gap, it is about if they do. It isn't about "What's wrong with younger women?" (although there is plenty),...it is about what they think of a guy nearly 20 years older than her sniffing around.
 

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You are telling someone with the social skill of a tee-ball player to lay down a drag bunt to do a sacrifice squeeze....

He has a hard enough time getting the ball tee'ed up and I don't think he's ever been on base....Cmon....
That's a bit harsh but I agree with you that in this case it's not worth the risk. It's worth it only if the woman is clearly totally up for it and the husband is living on another continent or something like that.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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