Stoic Warrior
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Is it better to use simpler language and a more informal style?
I think it applies in general.What types of women? A high power white collar or upper level management would also like less than perfect language?
Continuing the marketing analogy, this is a target market thing. Speaking well will not intimidate a white collar woman with an upper middle class or higher background. A lower middle class or lower class background women could have issues with a well spoken guy.What types of women? A high power white collar or upper level management would also like less than perfect language?
Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
What about an intellectual woman? What about a by the book driven achiever?I don't see how speaking clearly would hurt. However focusing on things like syntax, consistency, logic, etc is huge mistake, since women don't care about those things, they only care about the moment to moment emotions you are causing them to experience.
I don't know because I've never met any. Recently I met girl who claimed to be into Stoicism like me, but later found out she only read one book by some millenial clown named Ryan Holiday. As soon as I mentioned the ancient Greek/Roman Stoic philosophers who I loved, she lost interest and the conversation fizzled out.What about an intellectual woman? What about a by the book driven achiever?
Your last statement resonates. For most of them if they sense high intelligence in you they will revert to a devaluation mode for you. So one needs to be able to speak more "common", and hide their intelligence.I don't know because I've never met any. Recently I met girl who claimed to be into Stoicism like me, but and later found out she only read one book by some millenial clown named Ryan Holiday. As soon as I mentioned the ancient Greek/Roman Stoic philosophers who I loved, she lost interest and the conversation fizzled out.
Finding a woman who is genuinely intellectual and reads not to impress people but out of interest and necessity is a rarity. It's hard to say if it would help build attraction...good conversation and chemistry is definitely great to have but intellectu al conversation isn't very sexy. Seems better to save it for a later stage in the relationship.
True... women care more about what your body language is saying rather than what is coming out of your mouth. Talking doesn't really help you, but can hurt you. Conversations with women you are trying to impress is more about not making mistakes than saying something that will help you.I don't see how speaking clearly would hurt. However focusing on things like syntax, consistency, logic, etc is huge mistake, since women don't care about those things, they only care about the moment to moment emotions you are causing them to experience.
The intellectual woman is still a woman, meaning she is more concerned about what she is saying and how you respond to her than what you have to say. She is going to more concerned if you are listening than what you are saying. All you really need to learn to say is "I never thought of it that way before." and "tell me more". Just let her talk, wait for her to ask what you think about something, then respond with honesty without being a d1ck.What about an intellectual woman? What about a by the book driven achiever?
It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.
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The intellectual woman is one of the more annoying types of woman.The intellectual woman is still a woman
Those rules should promote a man encouraging her to do all the talking.Speaking -> formal. What a man says, he has to assume she is recording him and it will be shown to 12 jurors who are feminists and hate men.
Writing -> very formal. What a man writes, he has to assume it is being shown to 12 jurors who are feminists and hate men, and a judge who wished all men were dead.
Actions -> within reason, do whatever you want. Actions can be interpreted in many ways. Even if she is recording you. There are a lot of ways to interpret actions to the judge.
I understand the distinction between a market issue and a product issue, but in this case I think it's related to both. It's like the way of dressing, it should be adapted to the market but in general it's better to go too informal than too elegant to be more attractive.I'd say so. I'm well spoken. I write well. It's been a battle with women over 20+ years. Speaking well and expressing myself correctly has been a lesser problem. My biggest problem over time has been using websites/swipe apps and cold approaching to meet women as compared to having a social circle. In marketing terms, this is more a Place (distribution channels) problem than a Product problem. Speaking well and expressing yourself correctly would be a product problem.
I have simplified my writing as compared to my early 20s. I still use proper grammar and don't swear.
Continuing the marketing analogy, this is a target market thing. Speaking well will not intimidate a white collar woman with an upper middle class or higher background. A lower middle class or lower class background women could have issues with a well spoken guy.
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.