Dating a social butterfly

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Sorry for confusion. Different handles. Same guy/situation. Will stick with this one to avoid further confusion.

Yeah I've received the nail photos too as well as photos of her after her various beauty treatments and jewellery she is trying on. I'm basically receiving an instagram feed of her daily activities which is quite strange. For example woke up today to find a text from her saying she'd just left for her road trip with a friend accompanied by a photo of her car with a few coffees in the drinks holders.

But yeah does feel like she is stringing me on and that may be why she is suggesting all these future activities together to make me think there is potential and likely to stick around for as long as wants.

I have tried flirting a bit and she is very good at flirting back a bit before quickly defusing the conversation and then changing the subject or saying she has to go off and do something. Ditto with any mild sexual innuendo etc. I've dated a few Russian girls in the past and they are masters at doing exactly the same thing.

She is a lawyer so conversation/words are her strong point. So agree with you guys better to get her out and escalate and if she doesn't reciprocate withdraw so she realizes I'm not interested in platonic friendship. Will let you know how goes.
Have you even slept with her yet? Is she even hot enough for you to ignore this many red flags?

This is how wog chicks are, don't be surprised if she is also sending the exact same message to a dozen other guys. It's very easy to copy and paste a message or image to send to multiple people. This is why these chicks love snapchat as well.

It sounds like you have major oneitis over this girl, I know you have no intention of leaving but I think you meed to learn the hard way.
 

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This woman is in masculine energy, if you were to stare her in the eyes for a longer than normal period of time, things would take on a confrontational undertone as opposed to intimate tone... This is the ultimate test, it never fails and I mean, regardless, you can bang her either way, but you need to identify where she is at so you know what strategies to use and pursuing masculine women is a total waste of time.
 

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She has studied in the UK for a year or two in her mid 20s (she is 32 now) where she had a Germany boyfriend from her course. But I think most of her boyfriends have been Turkish including a 3 year marriage which ended in divorce a year ago and I don't think she is fully-Westernized. We were discussing the differences in the cultures in terms of dating etc and she was saying I need training if I want a Turkish girlfriend. I thought she was joking but then went to list three or four men that had married Turkish women she knew in London she thought could be suitable. But from what I try to understand she expects pampering and is high maintenance.

We've been texting recently because she's on holiday in Turkey. The fourth date which broke the pattern and didn't go so well was squeezed in just before her trip and was something she suggested as she said she wanted to see me before she left. She seemed a bit irritable from the very start of the date so maybe I just caught her when she was stressed about her travel and feeling rushed. The previous date she was hanging off my arm and hugging me and smothering me with kisses.

We are texting because she is on holiday so obviously cannot meet. I never really know what to do in that situation-when they go on holiday so early on in the dating process. She was texting me from the airport with photos of her luggage and photos of some baby that was crawling over her feet at the airport. And since then it has felt like an instagram feed as she sends me photos most days from her trip e.g. her stuck in traffic, her shopping for jewellery, her after her beauty treatments. It is all very strange and confusing. I've let her initiate most of the texts and on days I don't text her she's always dropped me a text mid afternoon with some kind of conversation starter (often a photo).

But yeah I think a lot of it is attention seeking and ideally want to find a way to wean her off the constant texting.

Obviously not going to pick her up from the airport if she asks. But when she is back will probably leave it a week or so before asking her out again and seeing if she suggests something beforehand and then escalate.
She says you need training? How about she gets training, since she's the one that has moved to the UK and is dating a local? It seems quite an arrogant attitude to think that everyone else has to adapt to her ways wherever she goes. Normally when people travel they adjust to their environment rather than expect everyone else to adapt to accommodate them.

I understand that she's on holiday now but she was giving you the "busy" line when she was in London and she was also blocking escalation, so that's not good. Any time that things are not moving forward, that means she's blocking. Also, notice how she brought up the topic of marriage. That's not a coincidence by any means.

I think you may be overestimating how westernized she is. A lot of Turkish women appear westernised because they wear revealing cloths, smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, but even those ones stay virgins until marriage and have to marry someone that their mother, father and neighbours approve of. Very few of them go against what their family expects of them and their family watches over them constantly because what they do is considered a matter of "honour" for the family. Those that live abroad might have a bit more freedom, but their family is still watching from afar and word gets back to them.

For your own sanity, I'd advise not to respond much and not to get into a lot of conversations with her whilst she is away. If she asks, tell her that you're busy and that you'll see her when she gets back.
 

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As part of her holiday she drove down with a girlfriend to a beach resort. I asked her if she was having a good time getting a nice tan and she sent me a video of herself in a swimsuit standing at the edge of the water paddling a little. Sexy as hell. But I guess she is baiting me and making sure I am nice and hot for her when she arrives back in London on Monday. Definitely starting to feel now for sure I am being manipulated but no idea quite what her agenda is.
 

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As part of her holiday she drove down with a girlfriend to a beach resort. I asked her if she was having a good time getting a nice tan and she sent me a video of herself in a swimsuit standing at the edge of the water paddling a little. Sexy as hell. But I guess she is baiting me and making sure I am nice and hot for her when she arrives back in London on Monday. Definitely starting to feel now for sure I am being manipulated but no idea quite what her agenda is.
The problem is that she´s not explicitly saying anything, so you can interpret it any way you want. Who knows how many guys she sends these videos to. If she comes back and starts tell you she´s "busy" then you just wasted a lot of time dealing with her and thinking about her. It would be better to just arrange to meet up and keep the communication to a minimum until then.
 

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This woman is in masculine energy, if you were to stare her in the eyes for a longer than normal period of time, things would take on a confrontational undertone as opposed to intimate tone... This is the ultimate test, it never fails and I mean, regardless, you can bang her either way, but you need to identify where she is at so you know what strategies to use and pursuing masculine women is a total waste of time.
I'm sure they drink in masculine energy and increase their own masculine space by getting men out of their masculine space.
 

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Spoke to a more Westernized Turkish female friend of mine who said that it all sounded very typical and because their families are very protective and spoil them and they typically live at home before marriage they are still kids so her age may be 32 but really she is 22 in a UK sense.
And reckons her ego is on a mission and she is trying to pin someone down and she can't handle being single and that is why she was inappropriately clingy on our early dates and putting so much effort into stringing me along when she should be enjoying her holiday visiting friends and family.

And yeah you guys are right it is attention whoring and I shouldn't be encouraging it. I ignored the bikini photos and disappeared for the evening. Got a text from her later that night asking how my evening was going so I said I was out catching up with a friend for dinner and drinks. Bit of chit chat about how she misses London. Then it was like "Babe I'm going to bed. Hugs and kisses xxx Then emoji of her blowing a kiss". So yeah I feel like I am talking to a 20 year old. And clearly very manipulative with the change in tack towards being lovey dovey after I didn't really react to the bikini photos she sent earlier in the day.

She's back on Monday. So I will keep text replies to a min and ask her out for a drink when she is back and escalate and if she is busy or doesnt let me escalate on the date will move on. From everything you guys and my Turkish female friends have told me she'd be a nightmare to date
 

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Dude, please stop. Now, this is pissing me off.

WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER, MY GUY. YOU ARE NOW THE PROBLEM HERE BY CONTINUING TO FALL FOR OBVIOUS BULLSH1T.

It's obvious as day as to what's going on here. Drop her and chase another woman. If she returns, put it in her mouth. If she doesn't return, put it in another woman's mouth.

SoSuave has god knows how many posts describing this exact behavior as attention-wh0ring and orbiting. You've been here since 2003??? What the **** have you been doing this entire time?????????

Don't worry about what her "agenda" is. Tell her to **** off - quite frankly, that will probably produce better results than this pansy-ass **** you're typing here.

It's all love from me bro, but please get it together.
The OP seems really adamant on continuing with this girl, he obviously is not someone who has options.

He continues to ignore everyone else in this thread telling him to leave, at this point he deserves to get played.
 

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Spoke to a more Westernized Turkish female friend of mine who said that it all sounded very typical and because their families are very protective and spoil them and they typically live at home before marriage they are still kids so her age may be 32 but really she is 22 in a UK sense.
And reckons her ego is on a mission and she is trying to pin someone down and she can't handle being single and that is why she was inappropriately clingy on our early dates and putting so much effort into stringing me along when she should be enjoying her holiday visiting friends and family.

And yeah you guys are right it is attention whoring and I shouldn't be encouraging it. I ignored the bikini photos and disappeared for the evening. Got a text from her later that night asking how my evening was going so I said I was out catching up with a friend for dinner and drinks. Bit of chit chat about how she misses London. Then it was like "Babe I'm going to bed. Hugs and kisses xxx Then emoji of her blowing a kiss". So yeah I feel like I am talking to a 20 year old. And clearly very manipulative with the change in tack towards being lovey dovey after I didn't really react to the bikini photos she sent earlier in the day.

She's back on Monday. So I will keep text replies to a min and ask her out for a drink when she is back and escalate and if she is busy or doesnt let me escalate on the date will move on. From everything you guys and my Turkish female friends have told me she'd be a nightmare to date
Yeah, I knew a Turkish girl exactly like this. Wanting to talk all day by message, calling me "babe" and sending photos etc. Then when it came to escalating, nothing. The she was claiming to be "busy" but still wanted to continue messaging all day long. So I wouldn't waste my time on the chit chat. If she wants to meet, then meet and escalate. If not, forget her.
 

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This chick is a wanderlust, she will never be satisfied with just one man. She wants to roam the earth, these chicks are always on to the next best thing
 

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Dude, please stop. Now, this is pissing me off.

WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER, MY GUY. YOU ARE NOW THE PROBLEM HERE BY CONTINUING TO FALL FOR OBVIOUS BULLSH1T.

It's obvious as day as to what's going on here. Drop her and chase another woman. If she returns, put it in her mouth. If she doesn't return, put it in another woman's mouth.

SoSuave has god knows how many posts describing this exact behavior as attention-wh0ring and orbiting. You've been here since 2003??? What the **** have you been doing this entire time?????????

Don't worry about what her "agenda" is. Tell her to **** off - quite frankly, that will probably produce better results than this pansy-ass **** you're typing here.

It's all love from me bro, but please get it together.
Well,this is more brutal than i would have worded it,but,nonetheless,this :up:
 

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Yeah I've received the nail photos too as well as photos of her after her various beauty treatments and jewellery she is trying on. I'm basically receiving an instagram feed of her daily activities which is quite strange. For example woke up today to find a text from her saying she'd just left for her road trip with a friend accompanied by a photo of her car with a few coffees in the drinks holders.

But yeah does feel like she is stringing me on and that may be why she is suggesting all these future activities together to make me think there is potential and likely to stick around for as long as wants.

I have tried flirting a bit and she is very good at flirting back a bit before quickly defusing the conversation and then changing the subject or saying she has to go off and do something.
It almost feels like its the same girl that I knew. I got the pictures of her painted nails and if I flirted or said anything sexual she'd change the subject.

That last one is a huge red flag. She's not cooperating. She's kokblocking you when you try to escalate verbally whilst distracting you with something else so that you don't notice the kokblock. That's an advanced manipulation tactic right there - very subtle, but very effective. She probably learnt that from years of practice leading guys on.

If she called you out on what you said, then you would lose interest. She doesn't want that. She wants you to stay interested and keep giving her attention. But if she went along with it, you'd escalate further and she'd be complicit. Plus you'd be emboldened to touch her when you see her next. She doesn't want that either. So she changes the subject.

The photos are just simp bait. Totally worthless. Any man can go online and see much better photos of anything he wants for free. I don't need to see photos. It's just a way of getting attention, whilst not doing what needs to be done which is being present physically and shutting the fek up.

Sometimes guys on here think they want a girl from a traditional background. But when you deal with women from a traditional background this is exactly what you get - a bunch of manipulation, lots of lies and a huge mountain of BS. And no sex. Huge waste of time.
 
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