When a woman talks about one specific ex every date

[AttackFormation]

Lol he just texted me to say that she told him over the phone today that she will move the earth for anyone that she loves and she loves him. And she wants him to book a vacation anywhere in the country for the end of September so they can go off on an "escape" together.

So this is his way of saying see i told you so. Haha. Poor guy.

He said see how much she really likes me now? I replied and said her words mean nothing and that i would not take her anywhere if i were him but good luck man.

She means she wants him to pay for it, right?

 

[zinc4]

She means she wants him to pay for it, right?

Yeah. She knows he has money. But to be fair to him and her she buys him stuff from time to time and cooks for him when he is at her place. She seems to have a somewhat how paying job and lives in a decent house that she paid for from what he says. So it's not all terrible. Those red flags though. Geez.

 

[AttackFormation]

Those red flags though. Geez.

Well whatever, wish em well. It's their lives, you can only help those who want to help themselves. Personally, i would not concern myself anymore with what he does or what happens with him after ive verified that he thinks he knows best.

 

[zinc4]

Well whatever, wish em well. It's their lives, you can only help those who want to help themselves. Personally, i would not concern myself anymore with what he does or what happens with him after ive verified that he thinks he knows best.

Yeah i wont. I get why he is letting his emotions control him. Have seen her and she is definitely a smokin hot milf. Looks much younger than her age and very nice figure. I would guess she is 15 to 20 years younger than her actual age if i didnt know.

It's so easy to let these hot women play you if you arent dialed in on it. I guess on the flip side that is how women feel about "chads" lol. They will do anything for a man if their vagina tingles enough. Same thing for most men if the girl is hot enough.

 

[CBear]

You contributed to sealing his fate. Your job is to help him get back up when he crashes. Your self interest put you before him. That’s not service. His whole job is to now make you wrong. You know what that does? It cuts him off from the fruits of observation. Go fix this.

And stop telling him that it’s for his own good. Especially since it’s not.

To that point, I remember when Rollo Tomassi once said that he was red pilled towards women but he wasn't red pilled towards guys which has gotten him in positions where he was resented by guys that he was trying to help. Food for thought.

 

[derby1]

Nailed it. And this is one of several reasons why you should never talk about your exes to your current girl - because women don't understand:

My response to every question about my dating/relationship history is, "I never kiss and tell" with a smirk.



But Zinc4, she said she'd move the earth!

I literally laughed out loud at this. She loves him so much that she's demanding he blow money taking her on a trip! That's love! I learned long ago not to offer advice to people who don't ask for it. It's hard when you see someone walking with their eyes closed to the edge of a cliff but you have to let them live their life and make the mistakes that may end up being the ONLY thing that will open their mind to the truth. Hell, I even find that when people do come to me asking for dating advice and I try to instill some knowledge on them, their blue pill brain just can't accept it and they try to argue with me using the same blue pill logic I was previously brainwashed to believe (my favorite one is when they reply to me by saying, "healthy women don't do that / want that / think like that / respond to that" etc). I do get through to some of them but in the end, after they get into another LTR (by following my RP advice), they always act like the things I told them had nothing to do with the successful seduction.

hilarious, I will never advise another man in struggles again, Ive found they will literally kill for their poorly behaved maiden. its quite pathetic.

Ive also noticed they go full on misogynist years later instead of red pill, and never came to me to say " you were right Derby1" if anything they unfriended me on social media or turned on me lol

 

[bat soup]

Got into a minor altercation with my guy friend last night over this topic that he is currently dealing with.

He has been seeing a new woman for the past 2 months and opened up to me last night after a few shots of how he is falling for this chick but there is one thing really bothers him. Prior to last night he has not really talked much about this girl to me because he knows how red pilled my thinking is and we often views things differently about women.

Anyways, the thing that is getting to him is the fact that she can't stop talking about her ex husband and how much she hates him.

This chick has 2 kids it turns out... one with a man who passed away already from sepsis and another from her most recent ex husband who she always talks about to him because she "hates" him because he left her and the daughter that they had together after she had begged him not to. He also left her at a crucial moment when her first daughter who she had with the now deceased ex passed away from a blood clot during surgery.

My friend says she always has to mention this key event of him leaving her right after her first daughter passed.

The red flags here are just too many to literally count.

So i told him well you probably know what i think already...i would never consider a single mom for a relationship in the first place, period. They just have too much baggage.

My friend always gets very defensive easily so he says yeah that's why i don't really talk about her much to you because i know how biased you are about women. So i said biased? It's not being biased it's really just common sense.

To make matters worse, this woman still has to text her ex and stay in communication with him because her children go stay with him every other weekend.

So after a few more drinks he is visibly very upset and tells me that she drove him to her house this on Saturday when going to starbucks together because she had mentioned that after he left her he kept the house and sold it for himself. So this woman has the nerve to actually take my friend to that very house for whatever reason to show him it.

I kind of went off on him at that point and told him to evacuate now and told him about a girl i literally just had to next this weekend myself because of BS drama and redflags.

After hearing me telling him to stop seeing her, he tells me, "see you always jump to harsh conclusions too soon. She made it a point to tell me after seeing the house that they shared together that the reason she talks so much about him is because she hates him not because she cant get over him."

I then said are you crazy? Hate means there are still STRONG feelings there. Indifference is what she should feel. And taking you that house was incredibly insensitive and selfish on her part. Clearly it is bothering you fir obvious reasons. Personally, Id be so annoyed by that unless she was just another plate which to him she is clearly not. Even a plate doing that would annoy me.

So my friend is a bit alcohol fueled at this point and says "see...you always see everything as black and white. She tells me that she loves me every day and its more complicated than you think i just want her to stop mentioning him so much not to stop seeing her.

At this point im feeling annoyed at him. So I told him look, im just giving it to you straight you are in for a world of hurt if you keep taking this woman seriously. I would run not walk. Next time don't take single mothers seriously. I don't care if she is the hottest effing milf in the world. They are all damaged goods. ESPECIALLY this one.

So then he stands up and slams his chair back into place and says you know what forget i even told you anything. My sister gives me much better advice anyways. You are way too cynical. Yeah it bothers me but it doesnt mean i should up and stop seeing her out of the blue.

Lmfao. This guy never learns and seems to almost resent my rational way of thinking. I will never understand why so many guys are in total denial like this. He is still my friend, but i will remind him if the time i tried to talk sense into him if/when this really goes south for him which it obviously will.

Why would you want to get involved in all this drama?

It's his life. If he asks for advice, tell him that you think he could do better. Otherwise don't get involved.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Got into a minor altercation with my guy friend last night over this topic that he is currently dealing with.

He has been seeing a new woman for the past 2 months and opened up to me last night after a few shots of how he is falling for this chick but there is one thing really bothers him. Prior to last night he has not really talked much about this girl to me because he knows how red pilled my thinking is and we often views things differently about women.

Anyways, the thing that is getting to him is the fact that she can't stop talking about her ex husband and how much she hates him.

This chick has 2 kids it turns out... one with a man who passed away already from sepsis and another from her most recent ex husband who she always talks about to him because she "hates" him because he left her and the daughter that they had together after she had begged him not to. He also left her at a crucial moment when her first daughter who she had with the now deceased ex passed away from a blood clot during surgery.

My friend says she always has to mention this key event of him leaving her right after her first daughter passed.

The red flags here are just too many to literally count.

So i told him well you probably know what i think already...i would never consider a single mom for a relationship in the first place, period. They just have too much baggage.

My friend always gets very defensive easily so he says yeah that's why i don't really talk about her much to you because i know how biased you are about women. So i said biased? It's not being biased it's really just common sense.

To make matters worse, this woman still has to text her ex and stay in communication with him because her children go stay with him every other weekend.

So after a few more drinks he is visibly very upset and tells me that she drove him to her house this on Saturday when going to starbucks together because she had mentioned that after he left her he kept the house and sold it for himself. So this woman has the nerve to actually take my friend to that very house for whatever reason to show him it.

I kind of went off on him at that point and told him to evacuate now and told him about a girl i literally just had to next this weekend myself because of BS drama and redflags.

After hearing me telling him to stop seeing her, he tells me, "see you always jump to harsh conclusions too soon. She made it a point to tell me after seeing the house that they shared together that the reason she talks so much about him is because she hates him not because she cant get over him."

I then said are you crazy? Hate means there are still STRONG feelings there. Indifference is what she should feel. And taking you that house was incredibly insensitive and selfish on her part. Clearly it is bothering you fir obvious reasons. Personally, Id be so annoyed by that unless she was just another plate which to him she is clearly not. Even a plate doing that would annoy me.

So my friend is a bit alcohol fueled at this point and says "see...you always see everything as black and white. She tells me that she loves me every day and its more complicated than you think i just want her to stop mentioning him so much not to stop seeing her.

At this point im feeling annoyed at him. So I told him look, im just giving it to you straight you are in for a world of hurt if you keep taking this woman seriously. I would run not walk. Next time don't take single mothers seriously. I don't care if she is the hottest effing milf in the world. They are all damaged goods. ESPECIALLY this one.

So then he stands up and slams his chair back into place and says you know what forget i even told you anything. My sister gives me much better advice anyways. You are way too cynical. Yeah it bothers me but it doesnt mean i should up and stop seeing her out of the blue.

Lmfao. This guy never learns and seems to almost resent my rational way of thinking. I will never understand why so many guys are in total denial like this. He is still my friend, but i will remind him if the time i tried to talk sense into him if/when this really goes south for him which it obviously will.

It's like trying to talk a male lion into being a vegetarian. Impossible.

The only thing you can do is stand back and watch the house burn down, and it will, and support your friend after if he wants it.

Your time and support are at a premium so offer and use them wisely. Good luck.

 

[Barrister]

OP - you didn't do anything wrong per se in my mind. I don't agree with some of the posters taking that stance. We all have had this friend before that we try to help see the light. I will say I do agree with them though that words are ultimately useless in this situation. As men, we only learn by trial by fire. Your friend is going to have his comeuppance. Whether he uses it after as a learning experience or continues to bury his head in the sand is completely on him and dependent on what he decides and nothing else.

 

[RickTheToad]

Got into a minor altercation with my guy friend last night over this topic that he is currently dealing with.

He has been seeing a new woman for the past 2 months and opened up to me last night after a few shots of how he is falling for this chick but there is one thing really bothers him. Prior to last night he has not really talked much about this girl to me because he knows how red pilled my thinking is and we often views things differently about women.

Anyways, the thing that is getting to him is the fact that she can't stop talking about her ex husband and how much she hates him.

This chick has 2 kids it turns out... one with a man who passed away already from sepsis and another from her most recent ex husband who she always talks about to him because she "hates" him because he left her and the daughter that they had together after she had begged him not to. He also left her at a crucial moment when her first daughter who she had with the now deceased ex passed away from a blood clot during surgery.

My friend says she always has to mention this key event of him leaving her right after her first daughter passed.

The red flags here are just too many to literally count.

So i told him well you probably know what i think already...i would never consider a single mom for a relationship in the first place, period. They just have too much baggage.

My friend always gets very defensive easily so he says yeah that's why i don't really talk about her much to you because i know how biased you are about women. So i said biased? It's not being biased it's really just common sense.

To make matters worse, this woman still has to text her ex and stay in communication with him because her children go stay with him every other weekend.

So after a few more drinks he is visibly very upset and tells me that she drove him to her house this on Saturday when going to starbucks together because she had mentioned that after he left her he kept the house and sold it for himself. So this woman has the nerve to actually take my friend to that very house for whatever reason to show him it.

I kind of went off on him at that point and told him to evacuate now and told him about a girl i literally just had to next this weekend myself because of BS drama and redflags.

After hearing me telling him to stop seeing her, he tells me, "see you always jump to harsh conclusions too soon. She made it a point to tell me after seeing the house that they shared together that the reason she talks so much about him is because she hates him not because she cant get over him."

I then said are you crazy? Hate means there are still STRONG feelings there. Indifference is what she should feel. And taking you that house was incredibly insensitive and selfish on her part. Clearly it is bothering you fir obvious reasons. Personally, Id be so annoyed by that unless she was just another plate which to him she is clearly not. Even a plate doing that would annoy me.

So my friend is a bit alcohol fueled at this point and says "see...you always see everything as black and white. She tells me that she loves me every day and its more complicated than you think i just want her to stop mentioning him so much not to stop seeing her.

At this point im feeling annoyed at him. So I told him look, im just giving it to you straight you are in for a world of hurt if you keep taking this woman seriously. I would run not walk. Next time don't take single mothers seriously. I don't care if she is the hottest effing milf in the world. They are all damaged goods. ESPECIALLY this one.

So then he stands up and slams his chair back into place and says you know what forget i even told you anything. My sister gives me much better advice anyways. You are way too cynical. Yeah it bothers me but it doesnt mean i should up and stop seeing her out of the blue.

Lmfao. This guy never learns and seems to almost resent my rational way of thinking. I will never understand why so many guys are in total denial like this. He is still my friend, but i will remind him if the time i tried to talk sense into him if/when this really goes south for him which it obviously will.

She's either not over her ex, or she's trying to find a dude who's of equal or greater character/standing as that dude.

 

[dude99]

Got into a minor altercation with my guy friend last night over this topic that he is currently dealing with.

He has been seeing a new woman for the past 2 months and opened up to me last night after a few shots of how he is falling for this chick but there is one thing really bothers him. Prior to last night he has not really talked much about this girl to me because he knows how red pilled my thinking is and we often views things differently about women.

Anyways, the thing that is getting to him is the fact that she can't stop talking about her ex husband and how much she hates him.

This chick has 2 kids it turns out... one with a man who passed away already from sepsis and another from her most recent ex husband who she always talks about to him because she "hates" him because he left her and the daughter that they had together after she had begged him not to. He also left her at a crucial moment when her first daughter who she had with the now deceased ex passed away from a blood clot during surgery.

My friend says she always has to mention this key event of him leaving her right after her first daughter passed.

The red flags here are just too many to literally count.

So i told him well you probably know what i think already...i would never consider a single mom for a relationship in the first place, period. They just have too much baggage.

My friend always gets very defensive easily so he says yeah that's why i don't really talk about her much to you because i know how biased you are about women. So i said biased? It's not being biased it's really just common sense.

To make matters worse, this woman still has to text her ex and stay in communication with him because her children go stay with him every other weekend.

So after a few more drinks he is visibly very upset and tells me that she drove him to her house this on Saturday when going to starbucks together because she had mentioned that after he left her he kept the house and sold it for himself. So this woman has the nerve to actually take my friend to that very house for whatever reason to show him it.

I kind of went off on him at that point and told him to evacuate now and told him about a girl i literally just had to next this weekend myself because of BS drama and redflags.

After hearing me telling him to stop seeing her, he tells me, "see you always jump to harsh conclusions too soon. She made it a point to tell me after seeing the house that they shared together that the reason she talks so much about him is because she hates him not because she cant get over him."

I then said are you crazy? Hate means there are still STRONG feelings there. Indifference is what she should feel. And taking you that house was incredibly insensitive and selfish on her part. Clearly it is bothering you fir obvious reasons. Personally, Id be so annoyed by that unless she was just another plate which to him she is clearly not. Even a plate doing that would annoy me.

So my friend is a bit alcohol fueled at this point and says "see...you always see everything as black and white. She tells me that she loves me every day and its more complicated than you think i just want her to stop mentioning him so much not to stop seeing her.

At this point im feeling annoyed at him. So I told him look, im just giving it to you straight you are in for a world of hurt if you keep taking this woman seriously. I would run not walk. Next time don't take single mothers seriously. I don't care if she is the hottest effing milf in the world. They are all damaged goods. ESPECIALLY this one.

So then he stands up and slams his chair back into place and says you know what forget i even told you anything. My sister gives me much better advice anyways. You are way too cynical. Yeah it bothers me but it doesnt mean i should up and stop seeing her out of the blue.

Lmfao. This guy never learns and seems to almost resent my rational way of thinking. I will never understand why so many guys are in total denial like this. He is still my friend, but i will remind him if the time i tried to talk sense into him if/when this really goes south for him which it obviously will.

I have couple of friends like this and sometimes you just have to stand back and get out of their way. They need to learn the hard way. Be there for him when he skins his knees but right now he doesn't want advice, he just wants to complain about her.

 

[zinc4]

OP - you didn't do anything wrong per se in my mind. I don't agree with some of the posters taking that stance. We all have had this friend before that we try to help see the light. I will say I do agree with them though that words are ultimately useless in this situation. As men, we only learn by trial by fire. Your friend is going to have his comeuppance. Whether he uses it after as a learning experience or continues to bury his head in the sand is completely on him and dependent on what he decides and nothing else.

I will always tell my friends the truth if they ask me. This thread took an overly dramatic turn regarding that stance. My friend will always be there. We have nearly taken each others heads off before nearly in fights. This aint nothing.