Do attention h0es get satisfaction of stringing guys on?

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Their improvement is not something under your control.

Of course you can choose to withhold sex from women until they all improve for you.
Until there's guys giving them free passes and are happy to get their attention (even if no s3x) breadcrumbs, things won't get better
 

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Until there's guys giving them free passes and are happy to get their attention (even if no s3x) breadcrumbs, things won't get better
Maybe try approaching women in person, or meet women through socializing, and improve your game. This significantly reduces the probability that women online will use you for free attention.
 

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Maybe try approaching women in person, or meet women through socializing, and improve your game. This significantly reduces the probability that women online will use you for free attention.
Lol women in person will use you for attention just as fast as one online will. You’re just rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
 

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Lol women in person will use you for attention just as fast as one online will. You’re just rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
I dunno man, I really don't have this problem.

If it's OLD, any woman who responds to my message is asked out on a date fairly promptly. This is a basic compliance test. If she's interested, she will comply. She'll agree to a date and give me her number. If there's any resistance, she's not that interested. Next. Not a big deal. Not something to sulk about. Just message the next woman.

If it's IRL, same deal. You perform simple compliance tests. What does her body language look like? Is she leaning in to speak to you? Is she laughing at your dumb jokes and twirling her hair? Does she agree to accompany you to the next venue? When you lean your leg or shoulder against hers, does she stay put? When you grab her hand and hold it, does she let you? Will she let you kiss her?

I think the reason why I don't seem to have this problem is because I'm focused on good game, not pissing and moaning about women.
 

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I dunno man, I really don't have this problem.

If it's OLD, any woman who responds to my message is asked out on a date fairly promptly. This is a basic compliance test. If she's interested, she will comply. She'll agree to a date and give me her number. If there's any resistance, she's not that interested. Next. Not a big deal. Not something to sulk about. Just message the next woman.

If it's IRL, same deal. You perform simple compliance tests. What does her body language look like? Is she leaning in to speak to you? Is she laughing at your dumb jokes and twirling her hair? Does she agree to accompany you to the next venue? When you lean your leg or shoulder against hers, does she stay put? When you grab her hand and hold it, does she let you? Will she let you kiss her?

I think the reason why I don't seem to have this problem is because I'm focused on good game, not pissing and moaning about women.
Why even bother with OLD when you can get an escort?
 

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I dunno man, I really don't have this problem.

If it's OLD, any woman who responds to my message is asked out on a date fairly promptly. This is a basic compliance test. If she's interested, she will comply. She'll agree to a date and give me her number. If there's any resistance, she's not that interested. Next. Not a big deal. Not something to sulk about. Just message the next woman.

If it's IRL, same deal. You perform simple compliance tests. What does her body language look like? Is she leaning in to speak to you? Is she laughing at your dumb jokes and twirling her hair? Does she agree to accompany you to the next venue? When you lean your leg or shoulder against hers, does she stay put? When you grab her hand and hold it, does she let you? Will she let you kiss her?

I think the reason why I don't seem to have this problem is because I'm focused on good game, not pissing and moaning about women.
Oh if only dating were as easy as you make it out to be. I have a feeling you’re a late bloomer and started to realize some success with women later in life.
 

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Escorts are a tough reality for men. Men want to believe there is a special connection or that they're winning something by getting sex. "She had sex with me, I'm special." Seeing a woman unapologetically throw sex around in a transactional manner ruins this illusion. The thin veil is removed. Sex means nothing in the west. Proceed accordingly.
 

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I dunno man, I really don't have this problem.

If it's OLD, any woman who responds to my message is asked out on a date fairly promptly. This is a basic compliance test. If she's interested, she will comply. She'll agree to a date and give me her number. If there's any resistance, she's not that interested. Next. Not a big deal. Not something to sulk about. Just message the next woman.

If it's IRL, same deal. You perform simple compliance tests. What does her body language look like? Is she leaning in to speak to you? Is she laughing at your dumb jokes and twirling her hair? Does she agree to accompany you to the next venue? When you lean your leg or shoulder against hers, does she stay put? When you grab her hand and hold it, does she let you? Will she let you kiss her?

I think the reason why I don't seem to have this problem is because I'm focused on good game, not pissing and moaning about women.
The trick is to get matches first...
 

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The trick is to get matches first...
Get in killer shape, upgrade your wardrobe, upgrade your look. If you're just downright ugly or 5'4, I don't know what to tell you man. I don't think being on a seduction forum is going to be your magic bean. You just have to have a higher tolerance for rejection. I can't tell you how to do that.
Oh if only dating were as easy as you make it out to be. I have a feeling you’re a late bloomer and started to realize some success with women later in life.
I never said dating is easy. And you're not far off in that assessment of me, although "late bloomer" in my case means late 20's/early 30's which is around the age most introverted non-Chads get their game handled.
 

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I love listening to the Reddit Speaks videos where dudes who got cheated on by their wives ended up doing better and rubbing it in her face afterwards, gives me hope maybe one of these anecdotes will reach and influence female minds, doubtful

 

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I've been the attn wh0re on Dating apps. Guilty....

Reasons:
Need to keep my hand in the game
Need to reassure myself if I needed to meet women I could.
use it to remind myself to be grateful for the woman/women in my life (after looking at the trainwrecks on OLD)
Be on the lookout for women I know.
See if I have a chance for the really attractive ones on there.
Mostly for ego masturbation "hey she likes me and thinks I'm smart and funny......cool"

It is like Porn for your ego...best way I can explain it.
 

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I've been the attn wh0re on Dating apps. Guilty....

Reasons:
Need to keep my hand in the game
Need to reassure myself if I needed to meet women I could.
use it to remind myself to be grateful for the woman/women in my life (after looking at the trainwrecks on OLD)
Be on the lookout for women I know.
See if I have a chance for the really attractive ones on there.
Mostly for ego masturbation "hey she likes me and thinks I'm smart and funny......cool"

It is like Porn for your ego...best way I can explain it.
It was quite the opposite for me when I was on it.

I saw one girl I had no interest in but she supported my sports team so I sent a message. I got a few back even with the “I’m not sure if the system is broken and you’re not getting these”
I feel bad for them.

One night on Old this women who clearly had learning difficulties tried explaining to me why I shouldn’t talk to other girls and she was the one for me. I am not sure what was up but it was just like talking to a child.
I spent hours explaining to her that I lived too far away but she’s a great person etc and to forget me because of x y and z. I think I eventually said I was an addict and that pushed her off.

I am way too soft. I know well the sting of rejection and AW.

I also found generally that breaking up with girls I found harder than being broken up with.

It sucks being fairly naturally empathetic.
 

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It’s kind of the female equivalent of the pump and dump. And in the same way girls will be quite rightly annoyed at a dude who does this, if a guy is user for time and resources they rationalise him as “entitled”
I noticed as well that none of them can stand a guy messing a woman around, its as if they think they are entitled to a relationship, theres a guy on love island clearly handsome, and much better SMV than the woman, yet the sisterhood are cray hes bailed on her.

Ive had many times I dated mediocre women, and 4 dates in had their mates inboxing me asking why i called it a day on their superb pal.
 

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To answer the original question - yes, attention whoares love string guys along. It's their favourite thing to do. The attention they get from men makes them feel special and important.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Another day, another flake / low interest, another removal on social media etc. Why do they match you and even chat a bit with no intention of meeting up? After this chick I had similar interests with and had some potential (I thought at least) used excuses to not meet up, I unfollowed her and unmatched her, she immediately unfollowed me back and blocked me on telegram as well. She's 32, apparently "looking for something serious, she had enough of everything else already", yet then acting like this.

Are these h0es acting this way because they still they can still ride the CC?
Why would you follow them in the first place?
 

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I also found generally that breaking up with girls I found harder than being broken up with.
Same. I think men accept rejection and pain as part of being a man. It doesn’t phase us the way it does women.

I’ve typically ended relationships with the slow fade, or being gross.

I actually once ended a fling who was being too needy by sending her a text “will you be my girlfriend? I’ll be your Aladdin and you can be my Princess Jasmine, we can ride a magic carpet into happiness together ”

12 hours later, she responded that she just wanted to be friends. You can set your fvcking watch to it.
 

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Same. I think men accept rejection and pain as part of being a man. It doesn’t phase us the way it does women.

I’ve typically ended relationships with the slow fade, or being gross.

I actually once ended a fling who was being too needy by sending her a text “will you be my girlfriend? I’ll be your Aladdin and you can be my Princess Jasmine, we can ride a magic carpet into happiness together ”

12 hours later, she responded that she just wanted to be friends. You can set your fvcking watch to it.
I think “you are into sk@t, right?” Can work pretty well.

To be fair to women, they have large balls when it comes to nexting. There is something about making a woman emotionally distressed which is frightening to a man (to me anyway)

A dude on here recently explained he had a baby with a woman who then broke up because essentially she didn’t feel the tingles.
I mean, good god, imagine explaining to a kid why her dad was not around that “I just didn’t get the romance kick I used to. He was happy to stay around and be your dad, but sadly mommy needs to have romantic thrills so instead I chose a rotating door of men, most of which saw you as a negative”
 

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I think “you are into sk@t, right?” Can work pretty well.
With one girl, I would play GG Allin -- particularly the songs "Eat My Diarrhea" and "Expose Yourself to Kids." I could literally see her eyes, scanning the floor back and forth as if she dropped something "what the fvck am I doing with him."


To be fair to women, they have large balls when it comes to nexting. There is something about making a woman emotionally distressed which is frightening to a man (to me anyway)
Women, as the choosers and gate-keepers of sex, are more inclined to the role of flunking dudes who don't, or no longer, make the cut. It's more empowering for their ego, it makes them feel sought-after and attractive. Which is why when a man reacts indifferently to being dumped and goes completely radio silent, it undermines her ego and spikes her insecurity and anxiety.

A woman's ego is far more fragile, and they have a lot more emotions tied up into relationships that we do. Getting dumped is more flummoxing for them than it is for us. I hate outright dumping a woman who is trying to be good to me. I hate it. Maybe I'm a coward. I prefer the GG Allin route.
 

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In this concept, women hold most of the cards. The sex card 100% and even the other half of the relationship card. Meaning she has to put out and play her half of the relationship card for yours to work.

For nexting, let's admit it, when we next a girl after a rejection or game playing, she fundamentally showed disinterest first, so we're practically giving up since we were the ones nexted first. And you really can't next a girl you haven't slept with. That's just her nexting you sexually and is keeping you around for beta purposes. If you ever wondered why going silent & distant (ghosting) didn't bring her around, you weren't high value.

Alas, there's a 1/256 chance she'll make the first move. Any other time, she'll hold on to that right-to-first-refusal card. Women do get off on stringing men along. But let Drake, Lebron James or Elon Musk approach them. Think they'll play games then? Nope, they'll be so obedient so to not mess that up.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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