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I have a spinal cord injury from a car accident. For your IBS/IBD, you may want to consider asking your GP for the following tests:

Standard blood panel to check for any really wacky levels/deficiencies

Celiac blood panel to eliminate the small possibility that you have Celiac

Fecal blood test. Blood = tumors, ulcers, or perforations

Extensive thyroid panel
I have a spinal cord injury from a car accident also. And I got the vaccine.
 

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Recovery...but recovery TO WHAT is the key question. Long haul COVID symptoms are becoming more and more common and last for months or even potentially forever...and they are terrible....I know several people who have had them for 8+ months...people have committed suicide from them, they are no joke.

Not to mention that COVID fvcks up your body so bad that death for any reason post COVID is increased by 50% from baseline. This includes people who are asymptomatic. They found the crazy thing with this is that the body sometimes doesn't sound the alarm even as it is being fvcked up and acts like everything is fine. Meanwhile asymptomatic people are walking around with pneumonia and dangerously low O2 sat levels

Not to mention that in 5 years the death rate from people who had their body ravaged by COVID that caused serious issues they ended up dying from that they wouldn't have otherwise had is going to be staggering....tens if not hundreds of millions of people.

This is the real cause for concern. Not the death total right now.
Recovery from the virus should an individual catch the virus w/o the vaccine. Listen, I am not saying this is a BS virus, I am saying the way some people are telling other people to handle it is incorrect due to science. However, this is somewhat still a free country, and anyone can select to take the virus. Eventually, the unvaccinated ban will be overturned by the courts as it's against a citizens bill of rights. Many leaders from blue states and cities even think Cuomo and de Blasio are crazy for their arcane restrictions.

There are risks taking the vaccine and not taking the vaccine. It's up to that individual person to make that decision for themselves; not the government.
 

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Not how it works. It’s always worked this way in the U.K. since at least the 1980s.

the NHS just gets a budget and they cover a certain amount of work for that budget.

There is no way in hell the NHS would give you unnecessary work. It’s different here - you have to hassle them to get service. They most certainly aren’t giving you extra work you don’t need.

it’s the same reason we don’t have half our country on oxycodone as is nearly the case in the states. There is no incentive to prescribe drugs and get people hooked on them.

the things I read about in the states - bad back? Oxy! Toothache? Oxy! Slight cramp in leg? Oxy! Do you have any idea how hard it is to get opiates here? I had a hernia op which left me in moderate to severe pain for a week and I got about 120mg of codeine and a big box of paracetamol (acetiminophen) and ibuprofen (not sure what you call it but it’s over the counter stuff)

also the rate of ADHD and prescriptionsfor adderal seem to be quite common (isn’t it like 5% of US citizens get prescribed ADHD?)

ADHD is almost unheard of in an adult in the U.K. and almost unheard of in kids - let alone prescribing meth for it!

I guess what I’m saying here is that healthcare here isn’t a money grab like it is in the states so it’s highly unlikely that our vaccine boosters are to make money, they are considered a medical necessity.

its utterly shocking the stuff that private US doctors are prescribing on the regular. These drugs are seen as recreational here. The only time you would get oxy or an opiate script is terminal illness from cancer.
Not sure. When I RX something, it's usually for a major issue; such as an car accident, gun shot, stabbing, OD. So, in these instances, a narcotic is necessary for the pain; at least initially. Even for the OD, we give a narcotic, narcan / opioid ****tail and then an RX of methadone to help the person not crash as they detox.

As for the ADHD, anxiety, depression in the US, well, it's mostly females and I believe closer to 15% - 20% are on some form of anti-depressant or anti-anxiety RX. It's unreal.
 

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“Heard in the grapevine” is even less credible than anecdotes (which go in the BS pile).
Headaches is listed as a side-effect for both Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. You seem hell-bent in nullifying every side-effect case as though it is fiction. But, what do you have to say about @RickTheToad who has first hand experience with others who have suffered side-effects?
 

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The side effects compared to the number of vaccine doses is so low that it is amazing how people latch onto these things.

And yeah, I actually HAVE had a side effect from the vaccine and continue to have it pop up every few weeks, and I am still a proponent of it. Because at the end of the day taking a benedryl to ease an allergic reaction every 2 weeks is better than not being able to breathe properly for the rest of my life or worse.
What type of side effect do you have? That's right there is a decimal point risk. But benedryl is hard on the liver isn't it? If your liver ever gets weaker or has issues you can't use that anymore.
 

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Theres some morgue stories for you. Everyones truth is there bias. But why not stop trying to push yours on others
I was open to get the vaccine a year ago until all the wack jobs came out and are trying to say you cant do this or that without it.
Sheep are followers dude not thinkers for themselves.
I admit it, I have sinned and strayed from the truth. I will now believe everything I read on Twitter and conspiracy sites…
 

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The best vaccine is exercise and a good diet. And a little bit of steel balls. Reminder, most men lived to the age of 30 as an average back in the olden days. All of us should be happy we got to the ages we are.

 

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What type of side effect do you have? That's right there is a decimal point risk. But benedryl is hard on the liver isn't it? If your liver ever gets weaker or has issues you can't use that anymore.
People take Benadryl every day in some instances. Once every 2 weeks isn't a big deal I don't think. It's actually been about 3 weeks since it's last happened...basically it's an allergic reaction that starts with a tingling in my scalp and spreads downward and I start turning red. Benedryl cuts it off at the pass and I am good.
 

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People take Benadryl every day in some instances. Once every 2 weeks isn't a big deal I don't think. It's actually been about 3 weeks since it's last happened...basically it's an allergic reaction that starts with a tingling in my scalp and spreads downward and I start turning red. Benedryl cuts it off at the pass and I am good.
If I tell my mother that is also a potential a side-effect she would 100% freak-out. We avoid these types of anti-allergy drugs like the plague. We don't even take it for hay-fever and generally don't trust even over the counter drugs. Unless there is a herbal remedy, like drinking a tea, that can solve that, it would be a problem. We generally see any drug as toxic because drugs are not natural, they are chemical, and made in a laboratory, therefore its bad for the body.
 

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If I tell my mother that is also a potential a side-effect she would 100% freak-out. We avoid these types of anti-allergy drugs like the plague. We don't even take it for hay-fever and generally don't trust even over the counter drugs. Unless there is a herbal remedy, like drinking a tea, that can solve that, it would be a problem. We generally see any drug as toxic because drugs are not natural, they are chemical, and made in a laboratory, therefore its bad for the body.
Ehh, I used to think like that but the truth is you absorb more bad crap through your skin on a daily basis than you could ever put in your mouth.
 

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Yes and as of right now i will let my immune system take care of it until they get this "experiment" more safe for human consumption
"According to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia , the vaccine is not expected to have long-term negative effects for a few reasons:

-First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine, which is why the FDA asked the companies to provide 8 weeks of safety data after the last dose.

-Second, the mRNA in the vaccine breaks down pretty quickly because our cells need a way to stop mRNA from making too many proteins or too much protein.

But, even if for some reason our cells did not break down the vaccine mRNA, the mRNA stops making the protein within about a week, regardless of the body’s immune response to the protein."
 

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Not sure. When I RX something, it's usually for a major issue; such as an car accident, gun shot, stabbing, OD. So, in these instances, a narcotic is necessary for the pain; at least initially. Even for the OD, we give a narcotic, narcan / opioid ****tail and then an RX of methadone to help the person not crash as they detox.

As for the ADHD, anxiety, depression in the US, well, it's mostly females and I believe closer to 15% - 20% are on some form of anti-depressant or anti-anxiety RX. It's unreal.
****. My best friend got hooked on diazepam, quite cold Turkey and went into something I’d never heard of.
He kind of got brain damage, he went from a very high paid architect scoring tons of major league girls, to being unable to work or leave the house. Lasted 9 months and then killed himself.
I wouldn’t touch anti depressents or benzo with a bargepole
 

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Ehh, I used to think like that but the truth is you absorb more bad crap through your skin on a daily basis than you could ever put in your mouth.
What is absorbed into the skin? My medical mindset is drugs are bad unless its necessary to sustain life the emergency room in which case there is no choice because drugs themselves wreck havoc on the body system and can produce side effects. That is why it could seem counterintuitive to take a vaccine with a mindset like that because you are deliberaly placing a foreign agent into your system.

If its applied right it makes sense since if you have to start taking 9 different drugs for different issues then you know you are in borrowed time. In this case, someone with long haul covid will likely have to take drugs too. So its very confusing as nobody who gets covid and is umvaccinated planned to get it or they would have been vaccinared.
 

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What is absorbed into the skin? My medical mindset is drugs are bad unless its necessary to sustain life the emergency room in which case there is no choice because drugs themselves wreck havoc on the body system and can produce side effects. That is why it could seem counterintuitive to take a vaccine with a mindset like that because you are deliberaly placing a foreign agent into your system.

If its applied right it makes sense since if you have to start taking 9 different drugs for different issues then you know you are in borrowed time. In this case, someone with long haul covid will likely have to take drugs too. So its very confusing as nobody who gets covid and is umvaccinated planned to get it or they would have been vaccinared.
Toxins in the water everytime you take a shower to start. The skin is your biggest organ, it is absorbing things constantly. The air you breathe is a close second.
 
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Not disputing there's been a virus

Was it released on purpose - Quite possibly

Has it been blown out of all proportion ? - absolutely

Has it caused mass social division ? - absolutely
Has it been politicized to the gills? Used for political gain? No question about it.

Mentioning other vaccines in the same breath as this one is a logical fallacy of the worst order. It's like comparing water and tequila.
Television doesn't work in the same way that the old version did either, but the end result is you can still see the picture.
 

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You get a lot worse than a headache from COVID-19.
I thought you said that you'd get a worst headache from Covid-19, but it seems to suggest something else. What you really mean to say is I "could" get a lot worst. Again, there are no negative guarantees. I may not catch it if there is an invisible spiritual shield that's zapping the virus along with my personal efforts with the n95 masks and gloves, and if I do then it might be asymptomatic. Just like no negative guarantees either with vaccine. I may not have a side-effect at all.

Again, I might remind you that @RickTheToad sounds like a reasonable contribution to the subject. If he's not taking the vaccine and he works in ER then doesn't that say something?
 
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