I agree with the girl. She has a ticking clock. The clock is real. The wall is real. If she wants family/babies and the guy isn't taking her there,...then time is short, life is short,...dump him.
There is a time limit guys....No quality woman is going to be a "plate" for 3 years +. And it is not just about resource extraction...It is about having a stable environment to raise a child in. Once you are 60+ it is about having a partner to grow old with. There is always a reason
guys try to go with this alpha mindset , mainly as a way to fix the dynamic between the man and the woman
Tell her that marriage is an outdated institution that has no place in the modern world. She'd have a hard time arguing with that.
my desire for children and marriage are very different. I 100% want children in the future but I don’t want to sign a contract that puts me into a financially compromising position. There is no need for me to be a husband In order to be a good father, the only reason girls want to get wifed up is so it’s harder for men to leave them. Marriage is just literally locking a man in place for security purposes for the female
If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Regardless of marriage or not, you are on the hook for Child Support for 18 years.
Well I know I'm preaching to the choir with you but, I'm not sure a lot know what "alpha" is. It just means to be the leader (same thing in nature), it doesn't mean being a self-centered narcissist or a cartoon character. The dynamic is not between "Alpha & the Woman". The dynamic is between "Masculine & Feminine". But then so many not knowing that difference kind of makes my point.
If that was me, I would of said, oh, okay. Take care then. Just look at the face and see how she reacts. Pause, and say, see, you didn't like that either. So, don't do that to me. I do not respond to ultimatums. If and when I am ready, I will do so, if this doesn't work for you, no problem. You are free to walk any time you wish. Just remember, no backies.
Financially compromising position? You do that every time you buy a car or get a credit card. You are on the hook for the kids no matter what anyway. If she calls the police and says you slapped her then you are going to jail just as fast married or not.
BS. That is how broken children are raised who have no concept what a real family is and what real parents are and what a real father is. These are the kids who grow up (raised by the Public Schools) to destroy the society they live in and go off and join ANTIFA. Socially functional children grow up with parents who actually know what it means to be a parent, and both parents have the mental capacity to actually make a real family work. Get the government out of marriage??,...GREAT! I love it!,...but it is still marriage even if it is a private (non-government) marriage,....it is not "Hey come be my slut/plate for a few years and pop out a couple offspring for me."
That's painting a broad brush dude. If parents are actually raising their children, keeping them off social media and monitoring what they do online, then the kids should be okay. The fallout from families is due to both parents working and the kids are in daycare. The financial stress is great and usually causes the friction. Crappy diet and not exercising is another thing that changes a person's hormone / mood levels
Yes. It is already over by that point. The ultimatum is more of a justification for ending it than anything else. If she was smart she would have ended it before the ultimatum was needed,...it isn't that hard to see where something is going (or not going) if you just pay attention.
bellow you will find a transcript of An alpha opener from another pua forum :
...and those are the "real" parents I'm talking about. They aren't the ones I am railing against.
Not sure if you are specifically referring to my ex GF or my friend's wife but in the case of my ex GF, the ultimatum from her end wasn't "marry me or I'll leave you," it was, "marry me or I won't give you the opportunity to marry me in the future." Since I didn't want to marry her, it wasn't an ultimatum LOL. Hence my "Gotcha" reply.
A) a good man I know lost half his retirement in addition to paying alimony cuz of his divorce. That would have happened with or without children involved. That is the kind of deep level financial compromise I am speaking of that I want no part of.
You would be amazed at what the "child support" will extend to, especially if the couple cohabitated. Health insurance, College costs even Retirement because the couple were defacto domestic partners. Have fun when people call yours son a "Cute lil B@stard".
Say sure, but not without a prenub. That usually does the trick.
